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I Lack Heart
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Due to several countries investigation of lootboxes, which treasure hunter is, the pay to win era of runescape might be closing to its end. You can tell Jagex have been cashing in the gambling addicts for the past year, knowing that it is too good to be true, so instead of once a month promotion TH turned into 2 promotions a week to ensure there is something you have to spend your money on or you will miss out.

Australia has investigated that loot boxes are psychological gambling, gateway to problem gambling and this is why it is so profitable for gaming companies. It is like selling drugs as postal service to rehab center patients, you dont see your customer but the insane amounts of money is flowing in works as a motivator, out of sight, out of mind.

19-Sep-2018 10:05:53

I Lack Heart
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Tophurious said:
Loot boxes will never go away

That is true, but the game have to be rated adults only by that point, meaning Jagex cant continue their predatory gambling habits and many countries require permission to run gambling.

19-Sep-2018 14:21:08

Dilbert2001
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LOL. No more "researches" is need in Australia anyway. No more dead horse beating is needed. They have already declared loot boxes "gambling" a year ago, but it will never be "illegal gambling".

The Aussie governmens has made it very clear their stance is against underground gambling, particularly the big ones, not the kinds that operates in a garage or a basement. And they are not fighting against loot boxes at all. They are pushing hard against illegal 3rd party gambling sites who typically use virtual items as gambling chips.

What that means is only games with real money player trading support and make a cut of the real money proceeds may have a chance to get a call. :D

19-Sep-2018 17:02:02

Tophurious
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I Lack Heart said:
Tophurious said:
Loot boxes will never go away

That is true, but the game have to be rated adults only by that point, meaning Jagex cant continue their predatory gambling habits and many countries require permission to run gambling.


I don't believe an AO rating will happen as a result of loot boxes either. people are more scared of boobies than gambling.
DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COFFEE

19-Sep-2018 17:17:06

Dilbert2001
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Tophurious said:
I Lack Heart said:
Tophurious said:
Loot boxes will never go away

That is true, but the game have to be rated adults only by that point, meaning Jagex cant continue their predatory gambling habits and many countries require permission to run gambling.


I don't believe an AO rating will happen as a result of loot boxes either. people are more scared of boobies than gambling.


People are not even scared of boobies or any 18+ content actually.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/13/majority-parents-let-kids-play-18-rated-games-reveals-survey-7712123/

Parents nowadays don't even care if they catch their kids watching x rated videos. :D

19-Sep-2018 17:23:28

I Lack Heart
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Dilbert2001 said:
They have already declared loot boxes "gambling" a year ago, but it will never be "illegal gambling".

You hit the jackpot, its not illegal...yet, anything that involves real money payments is included, not just ones that has no cashout option because thats not the problem, the problem is that its psychological gambling.

I know people are eager to defend predatory gambling targeted at children, get them hooked early and you dont even have to watch them struggle rest of their lifes.

Dilbert2001 said:

People are not even scared of boobies or any 18+ content actually.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/13/majority-parents-let-kids-play-18-rated-games-reveals-survey-7712123/

Parents nowadays don't even care if they catch their kids watching x rated videos. :D

Okey so your point is that games and activities dont have to be regulated because parents simply dont care anymore? I mean geez, why do we regulate alcohol either, some parents dont care. There is a reason they dont let you gamble in vegas if you are under 21, no matter how much your parents do or dont care.

19-Sep-2018 19:53:40 - Last edited on 19-Sep-2018 20:01:33 by I Lack Heart

Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said:
Dilbert2001 said:
They have already declared loot boxes "gambling" a year ago, but it will never be "illegal gambling".

You hit the jackpot, its not illegal...yet, anything that involves real money payments is included, not just ones that has no cashout option because thats not the problem, the problem is that its psychological gambling.

I know people are eager to defend predatory gambling targeted at children, get them hooked early and you dont even have to watch them struggle rest of their lifes.

Dilbert2001 said:

People are not even scared of boobies or any 18+ content actually.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/13/majority-parents-let-kids-play-18-rated-games-reveals-survey-7712123/

Parents nowadays don't even care if they catch their kids watching x rated videos. :D

Okey so your point is that games and activities dont have to be regulated because parents simply dont care anymore? I mean geez, why do we regulate alcohol either, some parents dont care. There is a reason they dont let you gamble in vegas if you are under 21, no matter how much your parents do or dont care.


Playing rock-paper-scissor for candies is gambling. Playing Monopoly is gambling too. That's what "gambling" is called in countries with 18th Century Legislative system. However, modern day parents know best, they even "gamble" together with their 8 year old kids for fun. :D

Regulation is the job of the governments. When the world's governments say no need, then no need. Simple as that. :D:D:D

19-Sep-2018 20:13:10

I Lack Heart
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Dilbert2001 said:
Playing rock-paper-scissor for candies is gambling. Playing Monopoly is gambling too. That's what "gambling" is called in countries with 18th Century Legislative system. However, modern day parents know best, they even "gamble" together with their 8 year old kids for fun. :D

Regulation is the job of the governments. When the world's governments say no need, then no need. Simple as that. :D:D:D

Playing rps for candies hardly triggers any dopamine and frankly never heard that kids do that in first place, second, monopoly is not gambling, you dont need to pay real money to get into the game do you? Nor is the rewards even something kids would desire.

Releasing limited edition shiny things better not miss out promotions how ever are predatory gambling designed to force kids or gambling addicts to make haste decision, spending more than they can afford because of some 'dont miss out' promotion.

And lastly thats exactly the thing, world governments have started to recognize that this is a serious problem.

I seriously hope you are just trolling or want to be moderator this badly.

19-Sep-2018 21:37:41 - Last edited on 19-Sep-2018 21:39:12 by I Lack Heart

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