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13-Feb-2019 16:42:12

Dilbert2001
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Over a year after the Crying Hawaiian'Loot Box Bills failed badly:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/no-video-game-loot-boxes-for-buyers-under-21-says-proposed-hawaii-bills/

No more U.S. Bills is being introduced again this year. This is a little bit surprising because politicians will fill bills for votes and donations usually even they know they won't get to anywhwere... Perhaps even these politicians have turned tail against loot boxes already. :)

16-Feb-2019 15:58:02

Ashlin107
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Dilbert2001 said:
No U.S. Bills is being introduced
yet
this year.


ftfy

Also this might have something to do with why no new bills have been introduced
yet
.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/11/the-ftc-says-it-will-investigate-loot-boxes/
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17-Feb-2019 05:47:21

Dilbert2001
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Ashlin107 said:
Dilbert2001 said:
No U.S. Bills is being introduced
yet
this year.


ftfy

Also this might have something to do with why no new bills have been introduced
yet
.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/11/the-ftc-says-it-will-investigate-loot-boxes/


LOL@"yet". yet yet yet yet yet for years. :D:D:D

Let me tell you everybody can ask the BBB and FTC to investigate any sales related issues and their answer will always be "yes". But no actions meaning nothing.

In fact, FTC has responded with “we don’t have anything to add at this point” to Simons’ affirmation".

https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/29/18118164/ftc-loot-box-investigation-legal-analysis

First, check the date of this "investigation". It was in November 2018, almost 3 months ago and "we don't have anything to add".
You can also ask the FTC to investigate the same thing too. Unlike making new bills, you don't need a politician to help you at all
. So help yourself and let me help you with FTC's contact... Oh! You need to give them your real identity: :D

https://www.ftc.gov/contact


Look at what that Polygon article tells you what FTC actually does and what they have done in the past:

“There was a time in the late ’70s and early ’80s when the FTC initiated numerous procedures against entire industries,” said Rothbard. “Children’s advertising, tobacco, the funeral industry and real estate, for example. But I can’t think of one that covers an entire industry in the in the last several years.”

Rothbard said the FTC is less liberal than in the past, and is reluctant to pass new rules governing entire industries."


They only have very limited powers to change things slightly in certain industries, and they haven't done a thing at all since the '80s.. that's like 40 years ago. :D:D:D:D:D:D

17-Feb-2019 15:27:53 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2019 15:32:14 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said:
Dilbert2001 said:
LOL@"yet". yet yet yet yet yet for years. :D:D:D

Remind me again, how many years decades it took for tobacco, alcohol etc. to be regulated.


Good that you know it took years decades and there are never any proven facts that whatever you feel needs to be regulated will be regulated.

Meanwhile, there is no regulation on that "whatever you feel needs to be regulated" so companies are happy to ring up their registers. Jagex included, of course. Why should all those real companies in the world care? :D:D:D

Also, don't forget in this context we are talking about the filling of the (non-existing) next US loot boxes Bills, not even laws. Politicians don't need to be involved in the FTC "investigation" Ashlin107 claimed to be the "reason" why there is no more loot box bills for so long. Ashlin107's "reason" is not even a "reason" since there is nothing prohibiting the politicians for asking the FTC even as average consumers and filling loot boxes bills as politicians. :D

18-Feb-2019 02:57:52 - Last edited on 18-Feb-2019 02:59:38 by Dilbert2001

Ashlin107
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Isn't it obvious why politicians are waiting for the FTC's findings? Because it'll help their case if they are on their side. It's funny how you always conveniently forget about and/or over look these things. It doesn't matter how much power if they are helping law makers and vise versa.

Also let's not forget investigations take a little thing called time. These kinds of investigations are known to take months.

Plus it's only matter of time before Belgium continue their crackdown on Loot Boxes any way.
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18-Feb-2019 11:02:26

Dilbert2001
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Politicians don't have to wait for anything because they can also amend their Bills. You think real politicians in the real world don't know how to amend their Bills? Now that's extremely funny!!!!!!! :D:D:D

Real politicians should also know there is absolutely "no findings" they get from the FTC. They are not doing anything behind the scene neither. In fact, even Maggie Hassan did not get a single word from FTC neither so she had to send another letter in January 31, 2019:

"Senator Maggie Hassan (D-NH), who asked the Federal Trade Commission to launch an investigation into video game loot boxes, is now asking the head of the commission for an update on the status of that investigation “as soon as practicable,” a time table, as well as proposed next steps, according to a copy of the letter shared with Variety.

The letter comes about two months after FTC chairman Joseph Simons agreed to investigate video game loot boxes to ensure that children are being protected and parents are educated on the matter."


https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/loot-box-investigation-ftc-timeline-1203125164/

Don't know whether it is a coincidence or for whatever reason Maggie Hassan failed to acknowledge FTC ignored her on her own official Website:

https://www.hassan.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/national-coverage-of-senator-hassan-securing-guarantee-from-ftc-chairman-to-investigate-loot-boxes-in-video-games

You can all contact Maggie Hassan to verify this and remind her to update her blogs so everybody knows the progress (or lack of, nothing, nada, zero) of that "investigation". :D:D:D

18-Feb-2019 17:41:28 - Last edited on 18-Feb-2019 17:42:45 by Dilbert2001

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said:
Good that you know it took years decades and there are never any proven facts that whatever you feel needs to be regulated will be regulated.

Sorry what? I'm pretty sure there are regulations for tobacco and alcohol. Are you trying to agree with me?
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