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Daibhi
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I would like the option to get the same XP/hr as before the rework as they promised in the stream they wouldn't nerf it. I wasn't losing any GP before the rework, so I rather not lose GP training the skill now.

Howmuch profit it makes is rather irrelevant as it's always less than 2m/hr, and as I have beyond max cash it's not worth my time. I'd rather be able to get 200M xp at the same speed as I could before the rework.

So yes, I'd rather have faster XP than more money, well actually "not faster" but the same as it was.


This sounds like a selfish request more than anything being "broken". Not everyone is in the same position you are.

08-Jan-2019 12:24:41

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When you see players doing totally dead content like Artisan Workshop and Lava Flow Mine in every world again, you know they like this new way of mining and smithing far more than the old boring click and bank way.


I see a lot of F2P players mining and almost nobody smithing anymore, seems like the old smithing was way better :)


Nobody smithing? Go check out Artisan Workshop, if you can't get to Priffdinas.

So you are still better off doing it in Priffdinas than the Artisan Workshop?

As in the video, it states you get perks or something a rather in the Artisan Workshop?? So I just presumed you'd be better of going to the Artisan Workshop whatever level you are???


The highest tiers of ores (dark and light animica) come from the (previously) harmonized ores in Priffdinas. Many people do their smithing conveniently there.

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08-Jan-2019 12:42:21

Fire Hawk154

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This sounds like a selfish request more than anything being "broken". Not everyone is in the same position you are.


Actually, a lot of people are in somewhat the same position as I am. There are thousands of F2P players with 85+ smithing who now have nothing to smith at those levels and are supposed to be happy with crappy XP rates. Personally I do care alot about the games intregrity, whether you train a skill today or tomorrow shouldn't affect the XP obtained (I'm also against double xp weekends for the matter). You don't want to train a skill in a rush having to fear that one day the XP will be cut in half or worse. At the same time, you don't want to train a skill and suddenly have it be made 10x easier, making your prior progress and hard work redundant. The game should mostly stay the same in terms of XP rates, and certainly not be cut in half after 16 years without a reasonable alternative.
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08-Jan-2019 13:42:01

Ancient Zest
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@Fire Hawk154

I share your opinion, the old system was dated sure, but it worked.

The only content changes I think are good is the metal bank, and the new ore system.
Though I knew the new ore system meant rune ore is just going to absolutely tank.
Also now that it only needs to be level 50 to smith it's going to become medicore equipment soon enough.

Sure it was already simple weapons and armour but it was a classic and the trimmed version gave it some of its prestige from the old days.
Now it's meh.

I also bet Dragon and Crystal Pickaxes are going to crash in value.
They've now become lowtier pickaxes overnight.
If they made them FTP they could maintain some of their value but I doubt they'll do that.

08-Jan-2019 14:49:14 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2019 14:54:50 by Ancient Zest

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@Fire Hawk154

I share your opinion, the old system was dated sure, but it worked.

The only content changes I think are good is the metal bank, and the new ore system.
Though I knew the new ore system meant rune ore is just going to absolutely tank.
Also now that it only needs to be level 50 to smith it's going to become medicore equipment soon enough.

Sure it was already simple weapons and armour but it was a classic and the trimmed version gave it some of its prestige from the old days.
Now it's meh.

I also bet Dragon and Crystal Pickaxes are going to crash in value.
They've now become lowtier pickaxes overnight.
If they made them FTP they could maintain some of their value but I doubt they'll do that.

08-Jan-2019 14:49:15 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2019 14:51:34 by Ancient Zest

Daibhi
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I also bet Dragon and Crystal Pickaxes are going to crash in value.
They've now become lowtier pickaxes overnight.
If they made them FTP they could maintain some of their value but I doubt they'll do that.


A dragon pickaxe is required for making the pickaxe of Earth and Song (the best pickaxe in the game) because in order to make one at an anvil you need an imcando pickaxe, which is what the dragon pickaxe is for as you need to gild it at the lava flow mine in as a gilded dragon pickaxe is one of the items needed to make one, a crystal pickaxe and a blast fusion hammer.

They couldn't make them F2P without making Keldagrim also available to F2P as well as the quests that you have to do before you can actually start going for an imcando pickaxe. One of those quests leading up to them is in Feldip hills - which would require F2P access to the main land of P2P.

Then there's the crystal pickaxe which requires access to Prifddinas because the only way you can get one is by giving 4k harmonic dust to Lady Ithell (I can't be bothered listing all the quests tied to getting into Prifddinas).

The gist of it is both those pickaxes, despite being knocked down a peg or two, are still relevant as they are required items in order to make the pickaxe of Earth and Song. Not to mention a crystal pickaxe has never been tradeable anyway so it has never had monetary value.

08-Jan-2019 15:39:29

Ancient Zest
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Sure they'll maintain usefulness, but I think in terms of supply and demand, the demand is going to drop and the supply will increase causing a crash.
After all there are other choices now and the song pick is end game.
Crystal pick is quest locked too, so I just think they'll be overlooked or overshadowed by the new pickaxes. But we'll see.

08-Jan-2019 17:05:26

Daibhi
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Sure they'll maintain usefulness, but I think in terms of supply and demand, the demand is going to drop and the supply will increase causing a crash.
After all there are other choices now and the song pick is end game.
Crystal pick is quest locked too, so I just think they'll be overlooked or overshadowed by the new pickaxes. But we'll see.


Crystal pickaxe has never had a monetary value like I said, so nothing will change for that in regards to price. Dragon pickaxe is apparently selling at 10m now (I bought mine before the update at 9m). Both are needed to make the pickaxe of Song and Earth however.

Of course they'll be overshadowed by the pickaxe of Song and Earth, it's a T90 pickaxe. The tier of your pickaxe matters a lot if you want to mine ores as fast as possible, if you try mining a T90 ore with a T70 pickaxe (the crystal pickaxe) it'll take you longer than it would if you were using an elder rune +5 or the pickaxe of Song and Earth which are T90.

Dragon and crystal pickaxes will still be relevant, and in use, to those who have level 60 and 70 mining because those will be the highest pickaxes they can use at those levels.

08-Jan-2019 18:43:32

Kip Tandoori
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Yes very easy, except 99-120 mining? Seren stones seems a slower xp rate then before, i could be wrong here but i think so. Mining to 99 got a bit easier, i have no problem with that.
Smithing same thing i guess. Easier to get 99 i think, not sure about 120.

14-Feb-2019 19:22:50

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