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UrekMazino
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DongáUáDead said:
I just use a selection of numbers and letters, sometimes I have words and numbers. But they say adding symbols (upper case), wouldn't protect your computer any more than how it is now for the simple fact if you have a trojan on board they will get your password with symbols or not.

Yea, of course it won't help in those situations, the reason why people are still asking for such a change is because it still helps with brute force attempts/guessing.
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20-Jan-2019 02:18:30

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UrekMazino said:
DongáUáDead said:
I just use a selection of numbers and letters, sometimes I have words and numbers. But they say adding symbols (upper case), wouldn't protect your computer any more than how it is now for the simple fact if you have a trojan on board they will get your password with symbols or not.

Yea, of course it won't help in those situations, the reason why people are still asking for such a change is because it still helps with brute force attempts/guessing.

Oh, I never thought of that happening.

But if you have a password that has nothing connected to you, such as family, pets, school, work, hobbies or sports you should be safe.
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20-Jan-2019 03:11:07

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One thing that might be a useful aid, and I always recommend it, is the use of a password manager. Essentially an encrypted database that generates passwords for you, and then 'remembers' them in your stead.
You do need to protect it with.. you guessed it.. a password (and often MFA), and there's a valid argument that you're now putting a single password in front of everything, but if you store the password vault offline and behind an extremely complex password, then you need only remember one password, rather than 1 million, and that discourages reuse and short/easy passwords.

Case in point: 4pO1xyw#mjh6AGoD1O

That's one of my moderate strength paswords. My strong ones can run up to 20/30+ characters in length, and I've got about 40 or so just like it. I don't need to remember any of them because my manager does that for me. Thankfully, my password manager will also type it out for me too.

Of course, you do need to protect the manager, and keep plentiful backups. If you lose that, then you're buggered.

I won't recommend a specific tool; there are a few. But the good ones all work in a similar manner.
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20-Jan-2019 07:34:39 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2019 07:36:01 by Moneybucks

Abbia
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Tuffty said:
If you are that worried just change your passwords to where ever you log in.

Nice simple answer.

Out of the millions of millions of names and passwords stolen you are worried about 1. If it's going to happen it happens. No matter what security you have it will happen.

Stop worrying. Why lose sleep over it.


So answer the question.

Why cant you implement symbols and upper cases to the password system?

Having the option would greatly increase password security.
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20-Jan-2019 15:07:31

Tuffty
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Abbia said:

So answer the question.

Why cant you implement symbols and upper cases to the password system?

Having the option would greatly increase password security.


Simple answer is. I have no idea why Jagex has not added this yet. It's been asked for for as long as I can remember and I've been here a long time.
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20-Jan-2019 15:12:53

ToPáBaSS
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Multitudinous character passwords create more problems than they solve.
In the first place, due to the systems Jagex uses, no one can brute force passwords, those days are long gone.
People who use multi character passwords create a problem for themselves. They often make them difficult to remember and tend to write down the password - this creates a security problem in itself.
The number of accounts that are breached through guessed passwords is, I should imagine, so close to zero, if not actually so, that it really would benefit no one to make them more complex.

20-Jan-2019 17:19:54

Orcrist9
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Yeah, they should definitely update the password system to be more secure. Thankfully we have Authenticator, though.
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21-Jan-2019 01:51:15

ToPáBaSS
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Orcrist9 said:
Yeah, they should definitely update the password system to be more secure.


Not if people keep getting duped into inputting their password on bogus sites, which is where
the majority hijackings take place.
No amount of convoluted password characters will protect you against bad internet practises.

21-Jan-2019 02:02:06

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