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For the sake of making elite dungeons compatible for all types of players as advertised, I seriously advise Jagex revise legacy mode for elite dungeons.

This is because bosses have so many must-avoid mechanics and sometimes even stuns that it is very unfair to legacy users who have no access to abilities and are made sitting ducks.

Therefore, elite dungeons should have a new mode:

Legacy mode

In legacy mode players can choose either normal or story runs, where legacy normal rewards the same as eoc normal and legacy story functions the same as eoc story.

In legacy mode, only players on legacy have the following advantages:

1) They cannot be stunned or bound by monsters or bosses such as leviathan’s double green slime pool.

2) Their run speed is three times as fast at all times

3) Special attack bars recharge at four times the rate

4) They take half the damage of any high hitting mechanic such as Sanctum guardian’s water beam and purple smoke and Ambassador’s lasers etc. (a lot lot more I haven’t covered here but you know what I mean with my example).

5) Damage over time abilities do not increase in damage if legacy players move and all subsequent damage, not the initial damage, are halved

6) Prayer is treated like prayer with devotion in pvp so all prayers are 75% effective.

Discuss!

Edit:

Can’t believe I almost forgot!

Support list:

KijinSeija
Jeremy Cheng
Aqua Star
Aldamir
FireHawke
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11-Mar-2019 01:59:58 - Last edited on 17-Mar-2019 08:08:32 by KijinSeija

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Thanks for feedback above. I really appreciate it :)

David James said:
Switch to revolution.

Pretend the auto ability spam are your Legacy auto attacks.

Pretend Thresholds/Ultimates are your Legacy special attacks.

Then you can do it (actually conforming to multiple suggestions of yours) except instead of being immune to everything you'll have to yaknow, play the game and depend on reactions and act accordingly to whatever mechanics are thrown at you.


Not only will it help you get through this, but it'll help you immensely in every other aspect of PvM in the game ;)


No it won’t. Revolution still requires knwoing rotations of abilities and therefore arrangements on the action bar. This confusion can only be addressed on legacy mode.
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11-Mar-2019 03:01:48

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A Vitalis said:
KijinSeija said:


No it won’t. Revolution still requires knwoing rotations of abilities and therefore arrangements on the action bar. This confusion can only be addressed on legacy mode.


That or a 30 second search on the wiki to find optimal ability bars for pretty much any situation.


I dont recall seeing an ‘elite dungeon only’ ability bar.

A Vitalis said:
EDIT: You know what, idk why I'm even replying to this toyz quality bait lmao.


Tellus Gaia said:
This is where the line gets drawn regarding sympathy.

KijinSeija said:
Discuss!


Feel free to discuss this with Toyz over a drink in the pub, not here.


Off topic but:

Whatever happened to my man, Toyz? I remember we were pals back in the day with Poshpants, Eva Element, Flaref0x, Draco Burnz and (damn forgot his name, but he’s the guy who wished I wouldn’t use Kijin as a name) where our genius ruled the forums. Sad some of us are gone or split up against each other. That’s alright though, at least poshpants is here some way or other.
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11-Mar-2019 05:20:40

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A Vitalis said:
I eagerly await your inevitable forum ban.


Don’t get your hopes up too much. Getting out of a perm forum is eaiser than dodging Leviathan’s head attacks. I mean, this is the original kijin account. So you're out of luck ;)
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11-Mar-2019 05:26:31 - Last edited on 11-Mar-2019 06:36:07 by KijinSeija

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Jeremy Cheng said:
Support for this and all future updates that make Legacy Mode actually competitive with elitist EOC...


Thank you! One wise supporter out of a mass of ignorance.
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11-Mar-2019 05:27:37

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Tophurious said:
legacy should be removed not accomodated


Is it because you can’t legacy? I guess someone must’ve wiped the floor with you by specing in legacy versus your eoc. :)
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11-Mar-2019 05:29:14 - Last edited on 11-Mar-2019 05:29:35 by KijinSeija

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Rikornak said:
Well - there is story mode to have it available to players like you. Or are you not even able to complete that with legacy?


The buffs to legacy mode I suggested above addresses the very imbalanced problems legacy players face that makes elite dungeons impossible for them.
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11-Mar-2019 07:40:13

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I Am Singham said:
Stop crying already, jfc. Seen this bumped too many times to ignore the salt over something that is better. Players these days... so entitled.


I've seen so many times about the same topic at this point I'm pretty sure you must be sarcastic.

What you really mean is:

"(I am) entitled so. These days, players are better. Something over the salt can't be ignored. Many times bumped this I have. jfc, Already crying stopped."

Oh I see, thank you for your compliment and understanding towards legacy players. Should I add you to support list or not?
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11-Mar-2019 07:44:30

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I Am Singham said:
KijinSeija said:
I Am Singham said:
Stop crying already, jfc. Seen this bumped too many times to ignore the salt over something that is better. Players these days... so entitled.


I've seen so many times about the same topic at this point I'm pretty sure you must be sarcastic.

What you really mean is:

"(I am) entitled so. These days, players are better. Something over the salt can't be ignored. Many times bumped this I have. jfc, Already crying stopped."

Oh I see, thank you for your compliment and understanding towards legacy players. Should I add you to support list or not?

Reading is hard.


For all you know I could be dyslexic.

You could be, who knows?
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11-Mar-2019 11:26:26

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Aldamir said:
KijinSeija said:
For the sake of making elite dungeons compatible for all types of players as advertised, I seriously advise Jagex revise legacy mode for elite dungeons.

This is because bosses have so many must-avoid mechanics and sometimes even stuns that it is very unfair to legacy users who have no access to abilities and are made sitting ducks.

Therefore, elite dungeons should have a new mode:

Legacy mode

In legacy mode players can choose either normal or story runs, where legacy normal rewards the same as eoc normal and legacy story functions the same as eoc story.

In legacy mode, only players on legacy have the following advantages:

1) They cannot be stunned or bound by monsters or bosses such as leviathan’s double green slime pool.

2) Their run speed is three times as fast at all times

3) Special attack bars recharge at four times the rate

4) They take half the damage of any high hitting mechanic such as Sanctum guardian’s water beam and purple smoke and Ambassador’s lasers etc. (a lot lot more I haven’t covered here but you know what I mean with my example).

5) Damage over time abilities do not increase in damage if legacy players move and all subsequent damage, not the initial damage, are halved

6) Prayer is treated like prayer with devotion in pvp so all prayers are 75% effective.

Discuss!

Edit:

Can’t believe I almost forgot!

Support list:


KijinSeija
Jeremy Cheng
Aqua Star


I support this as a legacy player it was advertised that it would be possible in a all combat types the ambiassidors black holes need a tweak to so ice barrage stuns them atm only zammy spear dose this but with eoc update you cant hit with mage/range gear on anymore so pointless


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11-Mar-2019 16:18:39

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Subzero said:
Aldamir said:
I support this as a legacy player it was advertised that it would be possible in a all combat types


It was advertised as doable all Combat styles (Magic, Ranged, Melee).

Not Combat Modes (Manual, Revolution, Legacy)

Legacy was never going to be supported by new content and players were explicitly told this when it was implemented. It was designed for players to continue playing existing content as they did Pre-EoC; it was not designed for them playing new content.

You've had seven years to learn EoC, you'd have mastered it by now if not for being stubborn. Revolution mode with a correct bar requires as little effort as Legacy combat.


Back then elite dungeons were advertised by Jmods to be ‘for everyone’, that includes all combat styles and all combat modes.
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11-Mar-2019 16:18:41 - Last edited on 11-Mar-2019 16:20:13 by KijinSeija

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Heshieok said:
What boss in the Elite Dungeons even stuns people? Even with legacy the bosses should be more than doable in trio, get some better weapons and some better perks on your gear.


Leviathan slime pool
Sotopanna
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Fire Hawk154 said:
Players should be able to use the combat mode they enjoy most, and not be forced into a single combat mode. So I support adding a Legacy mode to ED specifically for Legacy users.


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12-Mar-2019 00:01:30

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Aqua Star said:
Legacy is an outdated system that only serves to reminisce on old content, but it's not supposed to serve for new content.


Can't understand what you're saying.


Agreed.

Maybe like the others, Aria Ventus meant the reverse:

Legacy is an upgraded system that only serves for new content, but it's not supposed to reminisce on old content.
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12-Mar-2019 02:09:06 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2019 02:09:32 by KijinSeija

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Subzero said:
Aqua Star said:
Clearly requires far less effort. Clearly 7 years isn't long enough for you to accept we aren't listening.


No but it should be long enough for you to stop asking it to be OP at new content that's designed for EoC


Length of time does not equate to preference so clearly 7 years isn’t long enough for you to accept us legacy players aren’t listening either.

Clearly eoc deals too much dps for as much effort as legacy if using revolution.
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12-Mar-2019 03:35:52

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Aria Ventus said:
Aqua Star said:
Subzero said:
Aqua Star said:
Clearly requires far less effort. Clearly 7 years isn't long enough for you to accept we aren't listening.


No but it should be long enough for you to stop asking it to be OP at new content that's designed for EoC


So EoC isn't OP for the whole game? I see you're trolling.


It isn't. Both EoC and Legacy have their own advantages. EoC is stronger the longer the fight, while legacy is stronger in burst damage.


How is any of this related to the thread?
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12-Mar-2019 09:13:48

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BlitzdPanda said:
The community is sorry that you cant comprehend EOC or learn a basic understanding of this change made to the game. A game now designed around this combat update. It seems you might like OSRS better where the combat is as simple as your understanding of EOC.


Thanks for showing interest in my writing :)

I see you post the same thing on my other thread.
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12-Mar-2019 22:13:22

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Vaseth said:
KijinSeija said:
BlitzdPanda said:
The community is sorry that you cant comprehend EOC or learn a basic understanding of this change made to the game. A game now designed around this combat update. It seems you might like OSRS better where the combat is as simple as your understanding of EOC.


Thanks for showing interest in my writing :)

I see you post the same thing on my other thread.


you keep making threads saying the same thing, then get confused as to why people give the same answers? lol


Vaseth said:
KijinSeija said:
BlitzdPanda said:
The community is sorry that you cant comprehend EOC or learn a basic understanding of this change made to the game. A game now designed around this combat update. It seems you might like OSRS better where the combat is as simple as your understanding of EOC.


Thanks for showing interest in my writing :)

I see you post the same thing on my other thread.


you keep making threads saying the same thing, then get confused as to why people give the same answers? lol


This is called legacy in pvm, the other is legacy in pvp.
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12-Mar-2019 22:34:14

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ELITE STACK said:
The best way to fix a problem is remove it and pretend it never exists.


Agreed. We could remove elite dungeons if it isn’t fair for all. Well said :)
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13-Mar-2019 01:27:08

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I Am Singham said:
A Vitalis said:
This isn't a problem. Legacy was never intended to be competitive with EoC. Legacy requires a fraction of the amount of input EoC does (even revo requires you to time defensives, manually trigger abilities like Surge and Freedom, switches, etc), basically no understanding of the game, lowers the already rather low skill ceiling, and leaves very little room for engaging mechanics.

That being said, if we wanted to talk about making legacy on-par with zero input revo, and maybe adding basic utilities to legacy (personally I think Freedom should be in some way available in legacy, similar to how legacy players can use Provoke with a T90 shield), then there's plenty of room for that discussion. However, that deserves its own thread instead of being discussed on a blatant troll thread.

I mean, as far as "engaging mechanics" are concerned, you can only do so much with how restrictive the tick system is. That would require a complete re-haul if you want them to release bosses that make even Telos and Solak look like jokes some time in the distant future.
However, I wasn't strictly talking about PvM. Yes, yes, balancing the game around Legacy instead of EoC would entail keeping any future bosses at "only" Raxx-level difficulty and I'm not trying to ruin the fun of sweaty people who like FTAA'ing.

Even so, the "main" combat system shouldn't have such a clear edge in a PvP scenario. For PvM, you can opt to use Legacy and simply avoid harder bosses. For PvP, you're basically coerced into using EoC just to survive an average "PKer" because, like you pointed out, Legacy players can't use "Freedom" and similar must-haves. As such, they generally can't survive an encounter with an EoCer. That's a problem.


Exactly why legacy deserves the buffs
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13-Mar-2019 09:19:50

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Aqua Star said:
Oh wow you know how to mash buttons to heal run away and break free from pointless stuns, you should be on mastermind srsly.


Agreed
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13-Mar-2019 09:20:15

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B10ODCH3WER said:
In one of the twitch live you can see the mod display a dummy right before they begin with Ed3 and remember they say EOC and legacy is pretty much equal with basic abilities slightly weaker than legacy hit and with threshold and ultimate being stronger? then why are you having adrenaline urn and in combat stance for such a long time simply triggering an ability? with full adrenaline from the start this is problematic as you can see the threshold and ultimate are already at their disposal without the need to charge the adrenaline. how on earth can legacy win?? is this balance??
In those mod live and you can see one of the mod use sunshine during the beginning which is like 50% more damage and so you are saying EoC can start with 150% vs Legacy 100% damage output?? and once you reach 50% you can deal even higher damage? Balance??

now talk about boss mechanics, in legacy theres pretty much u cant do many thing as you cant carry a shield and say "heal me for this strike" or "give me invulnerable or revive cause I have spec bar" and those special attack from the weapon are a bit outdated especially when u cant recharge your spec bar back after some time.
how about you gain 10% spec bar per 4 tick or something to bring back the imbalance


Oh adrenaline urn?

More reason to buff legacy.
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14-Mar-2019 11:10:28

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Aqua Star said:
Do they even know there is a mini quest that you can only do in fucking the new client? So they wanna block people out of a lore 2 cape for the sake of removing java. Stupid noobs make e sick you know


I see you complain about this on your future updates, but it's locked now :(

On a side note, lots of my threads are also locked.

WTF is going on??????
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15-Mar-2019 08:31:29

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Draco Burnz said:
A Vitalis said:
There's so much wrong with this thread that it's not even worth giving a serious response to.

I have to wonder how this thread has been cleaned up 3 separate times by the fmods and not locked yet for being blatant bait created and operated by two blatant trolls. Nothing of any value is being discussed here, just OP and Aqua Star (but alas, I repeat myself) jerking each other off while other people foolishly try to have an actual conversation with them.

You're wasting your time.


Couldnt agree more.


There's so much wrong with ur responses that it's not even worth convincing you.

Ah well, at least the F-mods know this thread is supported by other players unlike you lot.
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16-Mar-2019 11:35:04

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Draco Burnz said:
KijinSeija said:
There's so much wrong with ur responses that it's not even worth convincing you.


About time we agreed on something ;)


It looks like this time someone took my post out of context.

There's so much wrong with responses like yours it's not worth responding to.

Cant you guys just let us have legacy mode? You do your eoc, we have legacy so we cant actually beat these dungeons.
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16-Mar-2019 13:00:44

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Draco Burnz said:
KijinSeija said:
Cant you guys just let us have legacy mode? You do your eoc, we have legacy so we cant actually beat these dungeons.


This fits here too:

Draco Burnz said:
No ones forcing you to do anything, its just that ppl complain about not being able to do content when you lot use the outdated system.

If you choose lolgacy over eoc fine i see no fault in that.

Its when you start demanding for things to work with the outdated system that i get annoyed.


But on my side, the reverse equally apply:

No ones forcing you to care about legacy only dungeons. Its just that ppl complain about us being able to do content when you lot use the updated system.

If you choose loleoc over legacy I see no fault in that.

Its when you start demanding for things to work with the updated system that I get annoyed.
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16-Mar-2019 16:11:09

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Aqua Star said:
Giras said:
Support... on the condition that instead of giving loot, any drops you would've gotten take their high alch's worth of gold from your pouch/bank and starts deleting items from your bank once you run out of coins.


Is that some sort of jmod gold sink fail idea?

Can we just sack all those ones.


Agreed. Wont support for reversed high alch to keep leagcy users from running dungeons.

We deserve the same rewards as everyone else on eoc.
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17-Mar-2019 05:45:33

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Tuffty said:
@KijinSeija

Be a good idea if you stopped quoting people and editing their quote to suit your needs.

I've removed a post where you did such an edit. Please don't do any more like that.

Back to the topic. If you can find the topic after all the off topic posts last few pages.


I was trying to express the contradiction. I'm truthfully confused. I'll post below to show.
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17-Mar-2019 11:44:42

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Miu said:
Draco Burnz said:
Aqua Star said:
Kind of sad they still have to try to force people to play eoc when we clearly prefer legacy.


No ones forcing you to do anything, its just that ppl complain about not being able to do content when you lot use the outdated system.

If you choose lolgacy over eoc fine i see no fault in that.

Its when you start demanding for things to work with the outdated system that i get annoyed.


Agreed. Legacy being around is a testament to EoC being a failure. If Jagex was so confident in EoC, they should just remove legacy instead of letting a half-functional combat system get left in the code. Keeping legacy around just invites its small userbase to complain whenever something can't be completed with little to no effort using legacy mode.

Time for a cleanup IMO. Legacy mode isn't easy mode, and it isn't going to be easy mode for elite dungeons either.


Here's where the sentences contradict:

"Agreed. Legacy being around is a testament to EoC being a failure. If Jagex was so confident in EoC, they should just remove legacy instead of letting a half-functional combat system get left in the code."

Here miu says legacy is better than eoc and eoc is a failure. I agree. It is true also Jagex is not confident in EOC which is why they have legacy. This poster even admits that is the case. Though he may have insulted legacy 'half-functional' he knows eoc is even worse.

Then the contradiction:

"Keeping legacy around just invites its small userbase to complain whenever something can't be completed with little to no effort using legacy mode.

Time for a cleanup IMO. Legacy mode isn't easy mode, and it isn't going to be easy mode for elite dungeons either."

If the poster knows eoc is inferior to legacy as he puts it before, why does he want the superior (legacy) removed? Thats why i was confused. It doesnt make sense
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17-Mar-2019 11:53:48

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So I gave miu above a B.O.D and didnt just call him a troll. Thats why I thought he meant the reverse since he thought legacy is the better combat system.

Im not the only one. Even this poster is confused. He also thinks miu supports legacy reading his starting post.

Aqua Star said:


I agree it's time to revert back to the old combat system and let eoc die.
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17-Mar-2019 11:56:30 - Last edited on 17-Mar-2019 11:57:16 by KijinSeija

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Aqua Star said:
Mr Rey Ray said:
You can easily look up what ability's to use from the Wiki as guidance.

No support.


or just beyond dumb


Exactly

Why play to other peoples expectations.

Why have to look up sheepwiki to copy others.

Old combat didnt require sheeping with other players.

It had more variety - useful spells, useful prayers and useful special attacks.

You had to use your brains back then by figuring out which special attack is best for certain
situations.
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17-Mar-2019 23:37:49

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Miu said:
KijinSeija said:
"Agreed. Legacy being around is a testament to EoC being a failure. If Jagex was so confident in EoC, they should just remove legacy instead of letting a half-functional combat system get left in the code."

Here miu says legacy is better than eoc and eoc is a failure. I agree. It is true also Jagex is not confident in EOC which is why they have legacy. This poster even admits that is the case. Though he may have insulted legacy 'half-functional' he knows eoc is even worse.
I never said legacy is better than EoC. EoC is bad. Legacy is even worse and is a product of Jagex having so little faith in EoC that they maintained a second combat "mode" (if you can even call it that) in a desperate attempt to keep players from leaving. Momentum 2.0

KijinSeija said:
Then the contradiction:

"Keeping legacy around just invites its small userbase to complain whenever something can't be completed with little to no effort using legacy mode.

Time for a cleanup IMO. Legacy mode isn't easy mode, and it isn't going to be easy mode for elite dungeons either."

If the poster knows eoc is inferior to legacy as he puts it before, why does he want the superior (legacy) removed? Thats why i was confused. It doesnt make sense
You are indeed confused, but there's no contradiction. You just misinterpreted my post, and, deliberately or not, asserted things that I never claimed.

To make it simple for you: If Jagex was confident in EoC, they wouldn't have had to implement legacy mode in the first place. If Jagex was confident in EoC, momentum would have never been an option. EoC sucks. Legacy sucks even more.


Oh thanks for explaining.

TBH Legacy sucks. I agree.

EOC also sucks. Thank you.

The only combat that doesnt suck and shoulda never been changed is old combat.
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17-Mar-2019 23:39:20

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Draco Burnz said:
Aqua Star said:
I'm not asking for legacy any more. I gave Evolution of shit a chance with that. I'm just going to say give us the old combat system. Easier and superior. We can just get rid of all this eoc crap and trolls.


You do have the "old system" thats exactly what lolgacy is.

Also one you're one to talk about being a troll ;)


No your the one trolling.

Old system is pre eoc combat.

Why else do you think people chose osrs over legacy?

You have higher hitting specs back then. You have 100% protect prayer against npcs back then. That was fair since monsters that could use pray were and still are 100% protect pray. Even monsters released in eoc still 100% protect pray including nex kk elite black knights kq etc.
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17-Mar-2019 23:42:44

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