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Dilbert2001
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Cinderlynn said:
Dilbert I see your point but here's a good example! The final elf quest! Yes not have quest req would have allowed a lot more people to use elf city but it would have cheapened the work and accomplishment that players put into completeing the elf series! In the elf series finale Jagex knew better then to pull the no req stuff!


You only feel your work is cheapened if you think you are above the others who haven't done the quests. In reality, you still get everything you have spent your time for, nothing more and nothing less. :)

25-May-2019 02:42:49 - Last edited on 25-May-2019 02:43:09 by Dilbert2001

Cinderlynn
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not I don't like the idea because of how long it took to do the elf series and Jagex almost decided to let people into elf city without doing anything!You regrow the city in the final quest for pete's sake!I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to do it sometimes but now I think about it case by case basis is a good way to do it!And I don't think I'm above the others but if everyone's equal why shouldn't they be required to complete everything too!Also isn't letting people in free putting them above other players?

25-May-2019 03:27:17 - Last edited on 25-May-2019 03:29:02 by Cinderlynn

Dilbert2001
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Cinderlynn said:
not I don't like the idea because of how long it took to do the elf series and Jagex almost decided to let people into elf city without doing anything!You regrow the city in the final quest for pete's sake!I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to do it sometimes but now I think about it case by case basis is a good way to do it!And I don't think I'm above the others but if everyone's equal why shouldn't they be required to complete everything too!


Because new players don't have 18 years to waste to get to the "equal" level we players who started 18 years ago are at now.

25-May-2019 03:34:24

Cinderlynn
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Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
not I don't like the idea because of how long it took to do the elf series and Jagex almost decided to let people into elf city without doing anything!You regrow the city in the final quest for pete's sake!I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to do it sometimes but now I think about it case by case basis is a good way to do it!And I don't think I'm above the others but if everyone's equal why shouldn't they be required to complete everything too!


Because new players don't have 18 years to waste to get to the "equal" level we players who started 18 years ago are at now.
It only took that long because they insisted on waiting till the graphical upgrade to do elf city! The quests wouldn't take 18 years now!And there are much better ways of training now!

25-May-2019 03:41:18

Dilbert2001
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Cinderlynn said:
Old school still has to do the quests to get elf city too!


Doesn't OSRS also trying to reduce requirements to make it easier for new players to get into Priffdinas too?

"Completion of Fairytale II - Cure a Queen is no longer required to start Song of the Elves."


https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/c=qjLaMzjP-uo/song-of-the-elves-poll-blog-ii?oldschool=1&gsi=e6npgu

25-May-2019 03:52:48

Dilbert2001
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Cinderlynn said:
yes but most of the elf series still is required and it's still not just free entry


So? The trend is they are also trying to make the game easier for newer players to enjoy in OSRS too.

You don't lose anything at all even if they don't require kudos to go to the new island or someday they want to remove some quests to access Priffdinas in RS3. It is not like you lose things you have accumulated over the past few years when they remove some content in the game.

25-May-2019 04:09:34

Lord Drakan
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Okay, let me summarise it as succinctly as possible.

Kudos Island: large island with lots of fossils north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; only qualified archaeologists who passed their exams and have 100 Kudos are allowed to come.

Land out of Time: large island north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; Kerapac's headed there.

They cannot not be the same, having too much in common. It's like describing a crystal city inhabited by elves located west of mountain range and being divided into eight districts...and then referring to something completely new rather than Prifddinas.

Having established Kudos Island is, in fact, being released (another big hint is the massive Digsite update), it has to require 100 Kudos. Because the only reason to explore the island is pure archaeological interest. Sure, we may encounter Kerapac and continue that storyline, but a priori we don't even know he's there. All we know is he flew away in an easterly direction; from Piscatoris that could be almost anywhere, as we don't know where Orthen is. We, real people, now know it's Kudos Island, but in-game the player does not.

And we know from existing dialogue (which hasn't been removed with the Digsite update) that the museum only takes people with 100 Kudos to discover new things. Obviously; why would they take someone with too little or even no archaeological experience to an archaeological expedition? This isn't a world event or invasion or anything - it's just Digsite 2.0. And what we might find on the island, is another story. But we cannot know that in advance.

Accessibility isn't an argument either since 100 Kudos is a lot easier to earn (also we've had over a decade to do it) than it is to start and complete Desperate Times.
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