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Venoxulous
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In the results of the March poll regarding future content, Jagex streamed the results and I couldn't help but think the results reflected a flaw in the question.

See the grouping had items like Player owned farms, which is presumably accessible to virtually all players minus maybe a summoning requirement, and can obviously be considered actual content insofar as you can actively participate in it but has a large development period.

In the same group was the 120-max idea, which is accessible to only the elite among us, is not to be considered as actual content and I would assume had a very low development time, at least in comparison to POF.

So taking these two ideas alone, of course the masses will vote for content they can actually be involved in as opposed to something they most likely would never achieve.

These aren't the only two that this issue is apparent in, there are a few that you sit and think "well obviously people are going to want X over Y".

Hopefully I'm explaining myself clearly enough for people to understand what I'm having a problem with.

Edit: What I'm suggesting is perhaps to group items together based on their estimated development time and poll them in those groups, would feel more accurate.

29-Mar-2018 10:45:55 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2018 10:49:57 by Venoxulous

Kcin
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120 max cape would be a terrible idea. Promoting that level of game play dedication isn't healthy and Jagex is already pushing it with Trim comp cape but that is already in the game so nothing can be done about that. But giving players an ulimately "end game" cape like 120 max cape unintentionally pushes people into going for that even if they might not have done it. I agree with Jagex it should stay an optional thing and not have the feeling that you need to have to get it.

Having them in the same area eg Skilling part of the poll makes it the most accurate as to what players want in certain areas of the game.
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29-Mar-2018 21:30:14 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2018 21:31:19 by Kcin

Warkev
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No one forces you to do anything in this game and people make their own choices as far as play time. There is nothing unhealthy about getting 120's in skills or 200m's. If players don;t know how to balance their own lives its on them to figure it out.

120 Max capes would be great as it would be very lucrative. I think they should add a 200m skill cape and a 200m all cape down the road after the 120 cape. Since those are large investments either GP or Time.

29-Mar-2018 21:47:34

MavisDracula
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I see your point - but the poll works as is.

You kind of dissected how a poll functions and put too much thought into why you felt it's biased haha

You're not wrong per se =p

It's not a problem or a flaw - it's just how it works.

I did something similar to this in my statistics class - confused the teacher a bit.
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29-Mar-2018 22:21:10 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2018 22:21:57 by MavisDracula

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It's like blowing up those photos that are made up of other photos (Mosaics) - looking at a cluster of 4 photos among the 100's of photos that make up one great photo doesn't seem right - it looks weird and doesn't form anything, but the photos work in the background and is necessary for the art piece to have been created. Hi Jagex! Please add new hairstyles =) (Thank you for ice cream hair)

29-Mar-2018 22:27:12 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2018 22:28:36 by MavisDracula

Kcin
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Warkev said:
No one forces you to do anything in this game and people make their own choices as far as play time. There is nothing unhealthy about getting 120's in skills or 200m's. If players don;t know how to balance their own lives its on them to figure it out.

No one forces you to play the lottery but when you have a big enough pot you have the draw to try it. Same goes for end game goals and achievements they do draw people to go for them that normally wouldn't so the no one forces you is complete bs because it gently tugs and eventually can get you to do it if you weren't going to normally. The time spent either years of casual play or short intensive massive hour long session isn't a healthy thing to do or for a game to promote. No matter how much you balance your lives there are healthier things to do.
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29-Mar-2018 23:08:22

Uncle Pob

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Kcin said:
Warkev said:
No one forces you to do anything in this game and people make their own choices as far as play time. There is nothing unhealthy about getting 120's in skills or 200m's. If players don;t know how to balance their own lives its on them to figure it out.

No one forces you to play the lottery but when you have a big enough pot you have the draw to try it. Same goes for end game goals and achievements they do draw people to go for them that normally wouldn't so the no one forces you is complete bs because it gently tugs and eventually can get you to do it if you weren't going to normally. The time spent either years of casual play or short intensive massive hour long session isn't a healthy thing to do or for a game to promote. No matter how much you balance your lives there are healthier things to do.


People are going for lv120/200m anyway, because cape or not it's become the new standard of skilling achievement that's replaced 99. The 99 cape is mainly a milestone people get on the way to 120 because of the perks - there's no pride in showing off your 99 any more, so many use the cape but apply an override which kind of defeats the original purpose of the capes.

The same portion of the players who already go for 120/200m would be the ones mostly interested in this, for the same reasons that many of the other questions got the results they did: because people want additional rewards for things they've already done or were planning on doing anyway... people like bonuses. That's what this boils down to.

30-Mar-2018 02:51:26

Kcin
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Uncle Pob said:

People are going for lv120/200m anyway, because cape or not it's become the new standard of skilling achievement that's replaced 99.

Because someone made the game that way. Suomi promoted it in that way doesn't mean Jagex should promote it.

Uncle Pob said:

there's no pride in showing off your 99 any more

You can argue there is no pride at all in showing off pixels.
Uncle Pob said:

The same portion of the players who already go for 120/200m would be the ones mostly interested in this


Hence why it is so low, because the majority don't want to play that way and if its an update for them vs those who actively go for it Jagex should go for the majority.
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30-Mar-2018 03:06:34 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2018 03:07:03 by Kcin

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