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GreytBritain

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Hello 42,

It's me.

I know we don't talk so much anymore, but, sometimes I think talking is the most important thing. "Communication." That's what humans spent thousands of years developing, right? Trying to be understood? It's what we all want, in the end, I think. To be understood. Why can't everyone else see the world the way you do? Right?

Alas, the bridge between my brain and yours is reality itself. We put a lot of effort into learning language and social norms as children, trying so hard to break through reality and connect with other people. We what to know what other people think, and how they feel, and we want them to know us too. Alas, again, our world is not ideal. Where the gaps in connections between people exist, something else inserts itself into that space.

We do not understand each other. Here creeps in the ancient disease of humanity that has infected man for time immemorial. Distrust. I don't know you. You don't know me. You don't know what I care about. You don't understand my way of thinking. You aren't with me, you aren't with my friends.

Here is written the doom of man's warlike past. Here exists the fatal flaw in one of human kind's greatest achievements.

But that is who we are. The story of the human condition is the only story to tell, after all. We all tell our own story here on 42. That's why we're all here in the first place.
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28-Jul-2016 02:56:58

GreytBritain

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I think we could do a better job of understanding each other. Recently, I read a post by Spartae, mostly proposing closer knit RP between ALL citizens of w42. Working closer together, I suddenly had this hope that we would be able to understand each other. I have this hope that when we struggle together, when we go through the same frustrations, when we turn to each other and just give one another a chance..

There is a better 42 somewhere in the gaps between us. Hidden behind the dark cloud of our mistrust, there is a more glorious community. W42 has steadily declined in population for many years. We all know that to be true. However our little community has never once stopped the cycle of hated, even as we slowly march on towards extinction.

So in this last era of w42, in our time of dying, let us come together for the final age. Let us renew our love for roleplay and our pride in this community. Let us forge a story arc that brings in all members of this world, the old and the new, the warriors and the students, the priests and the Kings, the peasants and the generals. More importantly, speak to someone you never have.

Reach out to someone different from you. Give them just a bit of your trust. It is my greatest hope that we can come together and develop a true "World Arc". An ongoing story that involves each and every single person willing to be involved, regardless of past history or personal feelings. It is time for us to set them aside, and truly revolutionize our roleplay.

The first step in developing this trust is learning each others stories and ideas. Share your thoughts here today, and read upon each others. Even if you don't agree, try to understand their perspective, and merely offer your own. Even if you don't see eye to eye on one thing, join forces on another and don't let this community be dragged down any further by distrust.

I believe in you, 42. I hope everyone else does too.
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28-Jul-2016 02:57:36 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2016 03:02:01 by GreytBritain

GreytBritain

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That's it for me. I just wanted to express these ideas. I just wanted to be understood. Feel free to use this thread for the same. Maybe we learn a thing or two about each other.
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28-Jul-2016 02:59:02

LuciusAnubis

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I must say this gentleman is correct.

I am new to the 42 community but not new to roleplay, during my time as a roleplayer in 41 the same very thing happened, POCs began deteriorating and the population begab declining, and even as this happened our community fought oocly for land and power

We eventually implented the idea of an united world, we started from 0 and ditched POK Politics and filly concentrated in Asgarnia, but bt then the population was so damaged it was too late to save 41 and after a few weeks it died finally

42 can still be saved, one single rp has way more population than 41 in its prime, so you guys should act and try to implement this idea before its too late

I am sorry if I sound deamatic, but I dont wanna see 42 die like 41 did

28-Jul-2016 03:13:08

Palpatom

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Let's not start restricting people's choices - trying to put everyone in one place doing the same thing not only limits choice and variety, but is also totally untenable with the state of the community, as it forces groups of people together who may rightfully wish to be kept apart. Slow decline is a consequence of RuneScape failing to gather fresh interest as a declining MMO in general, built on a shoddy, entangled infrastructure that is in need of a massive overhaul that is never going to come.

So maybe things are looking poor. So what? People still put on events and roleplays all over the place, and people still attend them. We might be a bit thinner on the ground, but most of us still take part in the things that matter. I'm not going to be corralled by alarmist sentiment into a singular vision, not least one so ostentatiously self serving.
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28-Jul-2016 07:03:10

Seaver Price

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Palpatom said:
Let's not start restricting people's choices - trying to put everyone in one place doing the same thing not only limits choice and variety, but is also totally untenable with the state of the community, as it forces groups of people together who may rightfully wish to be kept apart. Slow decline is a consequence of RuneScape failing to gather fresh interest as a declining MMO in general, built on a shoddy, entangled infrastructure that is in need of a massive overhaul that is never going to come.

So maybe things are looking poor. So what? People still put on events and roleplays all over the place, and people still attend them. We might be a bit thinner on the ground, but most of us still take part in the things that matter. I'm not going to be corralled by alarmist sentiment into a singular vision, not least one so ostentatiously self serving.


Let's not blame our situation on RuneScape's population. RuneScape has stronger numbers from a few years ago.
The purpose of life is finding the largest burden that you can bear and then indeed bearing it.

28-Jul-2016 07:47:20

Seaver Price

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Likely.

Yes, a better fault to pick with the rest of the game is the collective community's shift toward efficiency over fun. You know, that whole "no EXP waste" mentality. A mentality that's been capitalized upon and certainly a great boon to player retention as a whole. Frequent bonus EXP handouts, the ability to buy EXP, in game recognition of sheer EXP gained beyond just having skill levels, and a plethora of daily and weekly activities pulls the usual player into a progression grip where the next reward and milestone is right around the corner. This player retention is very real (do you see how many people get veteran capes a day, even on our world?) and that means the player base has aged. Aged to the point where the usual player may only have time for their dailies most of the time. They have college, or a job, maybe both, maybe even kids now. Having an in character adventure is just too time consuming for a considerable portion of people now.

Just...a bit more...grinding.

Unfortunately, it's turned what was already a fairly droll community into awfully boring drones. If the few hundred people we used to have in the golden days, even then, left something to be desired? If we had those numbers again, we'd throw our keyboards into our monitors out of frustration. You know, we'd probably be stuck with memelords, Trumpettes, people who tape their spacebar down during quests, more Grindanscape, and goodness knows what else. Now I know how rose colored glasses work, but our golden days couldn't have possibly had trends as asinine as "cuck" being legitimate insult, or as vapid as trying to re-enact Game of Thrones. But stop me if you've heard that one before.


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28-Jul-2016 11:00:17

Seaver Price

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There's a few easily defined paths forward for us that could be combined or isolated as you'd see fit, mostly. None of them will be easy and one wouldn't at all be fun. Fortunately the very unfun path is the worst path.


1. Stay the course and fade into oblivion. (Until someone picks up the pieces. If they pick up the pieces.) (This is the unfun one.)


2. Heed OP's advice and finally get along for once. As it stands, we do have enough people for proper activities, if we stick together and once and for all find a common ground.


3. Search for the needles in the haystack of the wider game community for those interested in roleplay. Relatively rare as they may be, they're out there and they'd be interested in us if we got our act together.


4. Reach out to those whom have departed and attempt to bring them back. It'd be easier than looking high and low in the rest of the game, but once again we would need to have our act together for them to be interested in us once more. I've had the bittersweet experience of talking to many people who lost interest in us after all we've done to each other. After what we've done to them, too.




I believe that if we'll live up to the days of old, we'll have to do 2, 3, and 4. I believe it can be done. Uninspiring as the overall playerbase is, it isn't impossible to grapple a couple hundred compelling people into our fold. People aside, the game is a lot more interesting these days. Not just in lore, but in everything. And hey, maybe if we had a notable amount of people again, we'd be worth the development time of RP centric features for the game! But we never needed official support before. (You reading this, JMods? You flaking out on us years ago when you reached out didn't exactly help us.)


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The purpose of life is finding the largest burden that you can bear and then indeed bearing it.

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