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In a perfect world, he kept up the facade and just remained Arenaride forever.

I wasn't sure/didn't care, at first, whether or not Arenaride and Pyro were the same person. Arenaride wasn't breaking rules. He wasn't roleplaying as a mahjarrat king of Forinthry (or so i thought ;)), and he wasn't shit talking and making rude remarks at every opportunity.

When it was first speculated that he was in fact Pyro, I didn't believe it originally. When enough evidence was provided, and I saw his own reaction to the matter, I was convinced. Along with being messaged "Hey" every waking moment. Even then, I didn't care; I figured he was trying to turn a new leaf or something. Even if that wasn't the case, accepting him as a roleplayer was important to me as a person. Legitimately had people breathing down my neck about Arenaride being Pyro when I gave him land in Kandarin, or vouched for him, or whatever else.

I continuously told them I literally gave no shits. I'm not sure why I would need to; he was literally doing no harm and had, to my eyes, moved away from the whole lore-shattering and oft mocked King of Forinthry shtick. The entire experience made me genuinely wonder what this community would be like if everyone was hidden behind a new account and roleplayed for the sake of roleplaying, rather than sitting here and arguing over past transgressions and holding grudges by the throat like teenage high school girls.

Even now, my character (Axel) is not going to change his disposition towards Jacob Delvar unless he makes his true nature obvious. Even though a mahjarrat hiding perfectly is an affront to other mahjarrat characters, and I personally don't think mahjarrat should be played by anyone on 42, and the fact that Axel himself would be able to pick up on such traits, it's too much effort, and effectively does more harm to RP than it does good.
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12-Feb-2019 00:55:01

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In truth, though, I probably would have allowed the user with the name "Lord Pyro I" the land and nobility as the character Jacob Delvar. Not sure if I would have crowned him King of anything though, let's be real. But that was Castigo, and Castigo didn't really know.

A lot of the points in Pyro's original post on this thread aren't too accurate. Axel wasn't persuaded to do anything; his intention was to have Jacob prove himself as a leader and he would have reunited Asgarnia back under him happily. The large unrest in the vicinity was a big problem. On top of that, the amount of OOC deceit involved was bountiful.

Another thing, Jacob never had the power to move Imperial troops and act as a commander of anything. I told him OOCly it was pointless to even attempt such, but offered a generous amount of imaginary armsmen to help out. For some reason, though, he and Ridaku think that mobilizing every last available Imperial unit and walking out of their garrisons to mess with some Kinshra was a realistic feat that could go unnoticed by Axel, the actual commanders and generals, and that they would for some reason listen to this puppet king.

But hey, RPers ain't perfect.

EDIT: And for whoever is saying "LOL U DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW", I can post logs literally dating back to August of me discussing it.
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12-Feb-2019 00:55:07 - Last edited on 12-Feb-2019 01:11:57 by Vekon

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RiDaku said:
The fact that it was Pyro on an alt shouldn't be an aggressive slap in the face, he wasn't doing it to snake anybody. The goal of Arenaride wasn't to shake Asgarnia up.


Bragging about having deceived and duped everyone in a public space is probably not the correct technique to assure someone that you weren't doing it snake anyone, though. When you combine that with the reputation he's built for himself, and seeing as he's not some magically changed man, people are going to feel a certain way about it.

That's the difference between him and Castigo. Legitimately, I had Castigo marked down as one of the most horrendous people I had ever encountered. And it wasn't because of some silly RP shit, but rather interpersonal relationships and how seriously damaged he was. And he'll admit it, too. He's not that person anymore, and it shows.
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12-Feb-2019 23:33:34

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Dad Bodx said:
This is getting way out of hand. You two break lore like a fat kid breaks chairs. Cease.


You are about as original as a forgery.
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12-Feb-2019 23:34:53

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Nicely written.

OOC deceit is absolutely abhorrent. We're here to make stories, not tell lies for the sake of experiments and power. Be honest with your peers. If you think you need to use a different identity to interact and be accepted by others, that alone says plenty about the sort of person you've made of yourself.
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18-Feb-2019 17:35:03

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RiDaku said:
This is a roleplay community, Croco, I'm not sure if you've noticed. "Pretending to be someone we're not" is kind of what we do here.


That isn't the point at all. If you hop onto another account and when someone asks you "Are you ____?" and you reply with "No" on more than one occasion, there is an issue. Especially when you eventually follow it up with laughing about how you tricked everyone. How can you seriously compare that to RPing?
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18-Feb-2019 20:25:41

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Lord Pyro I said:
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..Which group is "abusing" blacklists? You always have the mind to bring this up when referring to me, but I don't remember blacklisting any groups in my history of running any PoK.

"Don't like someone? Blacklisted
Being invaded? Blacklisted
Attacking someone but your character gets killed in the process? Blacklisted"


Right..? That isn't how the system should be used at all, and I agree with you if that's what you're attempting to imply.

No one is playing a victim here. I like to think that most people weren't hurt or harmed by your deceit and silly shit, but that certainly doesn't make it right. This "we are here to pretend!!" argument isn't valid at all. You weren't looking for a "clean slate", you were doing it to make your IC gain more convenient and for the bragging rights that came afterwards.
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HouseVekon

18-Feb-2019 20:33:22

Vekon

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CrocoNuts said:
Lord Pyro I said:
Okay let's get this over with.

I apologize ...
... I'm sorry


A step in the right direction. Thank you for your apology.
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HouseVekon

19-Feb-2019 00:39:35

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