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RiDaku said:
I thought that "the 2nd" and so on was reserved for people of the same name in the same dynasty? So for example, Varis Grey the 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/so on. But if a Varis Lavelle, for example, came in to power in Asgarnia - they wouldn't be the 5th, people would just start saying "Varis Grey (the #)" and "Varis Lavelle".


No, that is not how regnal numbers work. The King would also not be addressed as Varis Grey, as they didn't really have last names and often times their actual last name is different than their House name. As in the case of Citizen Louis Capet, King Louis the XVI following the abolition of the Bourbon Monarchy in France the first time, whose House of Bourbon are descendants of one of the first Royal House of France, the House of Capet. As such, as a normal citizen, his name was, literally, Louis Capet.

Stylings are different depending on where you are at and at what point of time, but a King/Queen is addressed as 'King/Queen [first name]', sans the surname. However, usually the style of address for the monarch is decided by the Royal House in power at the time anyway. As for regnal numbers, they are usually determined by records of succession; so long as the current King of Misthalin views the reigns of his predecessors as legitimate, then by the rules of regnal numbers he should be 'James II' as there was a King James on the throne of Misthalin before him. They do not apply to the dynasty in power, as, there has been several dynasties in power (although, most of them do trace their line back to the original dynasty, as in the cases of Capet in France and Plantagenet in England) in the British Isles; the current Queen of the United Kingdom, for example, is Elizabeth II despite being part of the House of Windsor (formerly Saxe-Coburg) when the Queen Elizabeth before her belonged to the House of Tudor. --
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23-Feb-2019 23:46:26

Vekon

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-- So, in effect, a tl;dr would be that the regnal number and style of address are entirely up to the current King of Misthalin, however monarchical tradition would agree with Lozz that the new king would, in fact, be James the Second.
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23-Feb-2019 23:46:35

Vekon

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A beautiful envelope, stamped with the seal of House Vekon and Kandarin, apparated miraculously in King James' general vicinity.


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To His Excellency,
King James of Misthalin;


It is with great displeasure that I find you, still an upstart monarch, have the gall to arraign my most humble and loyal servant, Lord Robard Vortivask of the Vectori. To think that you could believe the Empire of Kandarin capable of raising thieves is abhorrent. You will be displeased to know that banditry is commonplace on Gielinor; I would recommend bolstering your defences and preparing for another nefarious plot of ne'er-do-wells seeking to take advantage of your lack of aptitude, rather than accusing one of my own trusted men.

Furthermore, I would have you know that the slandering of a Kandar Nobleman is a great insult, and a direct violation of our own laws. One I have found you guilty of, based on the content of your letter. I bid you to bring yourself and an entourage of whatever size it takes to make you feel safe, along with any number of weapons, to the Sunlit Hall in order to discuss both these apparent crimes. You will be unharmed during your stay. Until then, send no more letters. Men are to speak with words, and monarchs no less.


Kandar Victa,

Emperor Axel Vekon The Redeemer.


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KANDAR VICTA

Axel Vekon, the Eternal Emperor, the Archmage, the Lichslayer, of the Holy Kandarin Empire.

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HouseVekon

28-Apr-2019 15:55:57

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