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Megical Man

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So, throughout the quest series, there has been roughly 3 states that the coffin was in.

1.) It was shaking. The player refused to open it.

2.) Something really stirred it up! Whatever is stuck in there really wants out! The player really refuses to open it now.

3.) "I can't hear anything. Whatever was moving in there has stopped. I think it might be dead."


So... What was in the coffin?? Did I miss something throughout the quest series or forget about trapping somebody in the coffin? What was in there? Why won't they let us open the coffin?

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26-Apr-2016 01:43:46

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You're talking about the Paterdomus coffin right? Last I checked there was a vampyre that somehow got locked up in there for some reason, but can't recall any details besides that. I think (not 100% sure, been a long time since I did the quests) this was mentioned during Priest in Peril.
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26-Apr-2016 01:49:28

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A Mad Hatter said:
You're talking about the Paterdomus coffin right? Last I checked there was a vampyre that somehow got locked up in there for some reason, but can't recall any details besides that. I think (not 100% sure, been a long time since I did the quests) this was mentioned during Priest in Peril.


Oh, shoot. Yeah that's what I meant, I just call it the Morytania Coffin lol.

Even still, shouldn't it have been mentioned or something during the Vampyre quest finale who this vampyre was? Why they were locked up?

To me it just seems sloppy that they offed a mysterious character by saying "Whoops he's dead now, k go away byeee."

26-Apr-2016 02:07:12

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It is heavily hinted that the vampyre within the coffin was the one vampyre in the entire series who was able to cross the Salve without consequence:

Ivandis Seergaze. Throughout the quest you find his tomb empty, notes describing his attempts to find a cure, and eventually his plan to return to Paterdomus to let the Salve finish him (keep in mind that he was able to cross it without harm once before when he first began succumbing to the curse).

Likely once Ivandis realized that the Salve would not end him, he willingly entered imprisonment in the temple so as to not become a threat to those he had sacrificed so much for (Why else would they keep a vampyre alive?). There he lay, his mind eventually falling to the transformation.

What happens next is plainly just what occurs in the quest series.

First, we restored the original enchantment way back in the series' beginnings (remember, this is had no effect on Ivandis, nor the vampyre in the coffin hence the regular shaking).

Second, we used his Super Guthix Balance recipe to place a new enchantment on the Salve (we know that this did affect him, as per his notes), and like the vyres who attempted to cross, it rendered the vampyre in the coffin feral (ergo, the stirred state).

Finally, we used the Extreme Guthix Balance recipe to place yet another new enchantment on the Salve that cured vampyres who crossed (this potion was theoretically the only way to cure Ivandis, and would have returned him to human form starving and ancient before perishing).


What do you think?

26-Apr-2016 02:11:32 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2016 02:12:33 by Hguoh

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Hguoh said:
It is heavily hinted that the vampyre within the coffin was the one vampyre in the entire series who was able to cross the Salve without consequence:

Ivandis Seergaze. Throughout the quest you find his tomb empty, notes describing his attempts to find a cure, and eventually his plan to return to Paterdomus to let the Salve finish him (keep in mind that he was able to cross it without harm once before when he first began succumbing to the curse).

Likely once Ivandis realized that the Salve would not end him, he willingly entered imprisonment in the temple so as to not become a threat to those he had sacrificed so much for (Why else would they keep a vampyre alive?). There he lay, his mind eventually falling to the transformation.

What happens next is plainly just what occurs in the quest series.

First, we restored the original enchantment way back in the series' beginnings (remember, this is had no effect on Ivandis, nor the vampyre in the coffin hence the regular shaking).

Second, we used his Super Guthix Balance recipe to place a new enchantment on the Salve (we know that this did affect him, as per his notes), and like the vyres who attempted to cross, it rendered the vampyre in the coffin feral (ergo, the stirred state).

Finally, we used the Extreme Guthix Balance recipe to place yet another new enchantment on the Salve that cured vampyres who crossed (this potion was theoretically the only way to cure Ivandis, and would have returned him to human form starving and ancient before perishing).


What do you think?
100% exactly what I was thinking, HIGH-FIVE!!!

Also did those messages change during the quest, or quest series? Makes more sense for just the quest.
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26-Apr-2016 03:30:33

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N7spongy said:
100% exactly what I was thinking, HIGH-FIVE!!!

Also did those messages change during the quest, or quest series? Makes more sense for just the quest.


Throughout most of the quest series, the coffin just shakes and you hear something alive in it. During River of Blood, however, the coffin reacts differently as events progress.

26-Apr-2016 03:45:43

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I don't think so. I think Ivandis turned into a Werewolf not a Vampyre.

The blood ritual was part of the books and it would require werewolves to take blood of the innocents and accept Zamorak.

It did not sound like he was becoming a vampyre at all, but a werewolf.
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26-Apr-2016 04:23:00 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2016 04:23:35 by Iceey

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Iceey said:
I don't think so. I think Ivandis turned into a Werewolf not a Vampyre.

The blood ritual was part of the books and it would require werewolves to take blood of the innocents and accept Zamorak.

It did not sound like he was becoming a vampyre at all, but a werewolf.

Dude, the Blood of the Covenant specifically makes reference to "slaking bloodthirst," and some of Ivandis' final written words were "I refuse to become wholly vampyric" -- how do you miss that?
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26-Apr-2016 04:34:20 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2016 04:36:46 by Raleirosen

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Well, if it means anything:

In Priest in Peril, Drezel says that he is trapped by that Vampyre. That's why we have to use some Salve holy water on the tomb to calm it down.

So… Ivandis? That could be interesting, but would completely retcon the vampyre's position as Drezel's warden. Which wouldn't totally be a bad thing…


Also, when did the tomb claim that the beast within was struggling to get out?
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26-Apr-2016 04:43:33

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Iceey said:
I don't think so. I think Ivandis turned into a Werewolf not a Vampyre.

The blood ritual was part of the books and it would require werewolves to take blood of the innocents and accept Zamorak.

It did not sound like he was becoming a vampyre at all, but a werewolf.


Yes, he was clearly becoming a werewolf...

Which is why one of his first attempts at curing his curse was the Guthix's Balance potion (him working with Yarra = Guthix + Saradomin, the successful catalyst found in Chapter 14 was spider eggs, the random clarity and ferocity from imbibing it, and the mention of garlic and silver dust being a part of it in Chapter 15).

Interestingly enough, I can't seem to find any example of Guthix's Balance affecting werewolves like that, but I can definitely produce such results by using the potion on J**inates (recently turned vampyres).

26-Apr-2016 04:44:21

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