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MegicaláMan

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When I say the word "Queen", what does one typically think of? (relating to Runescape)

Queen Ellamaria, Glarial, Efaritay, etc etc.

There is one Queen, however, who plays one of the more important roles in Gielinor, but has had virtually no mention since she was introduced. That would be
The Queen of Sunrise
.

The Land of Holly and Hawthorn
(
Land of Snow
/
Land of Sunlight
)


It has been stated by your Snow Imp that The Land of Snow is a different plane than Gielinor, however, they are much closer than one might imagine. This is especially true during Christmas time. We learn during the 2011 Easter event that there is not only an opposite of the Land of Snow, called the Land of Sunlight, but that their borders meet at the Land of Holly and Hawthorn.
The Land of Holly and Hawthorn (Now simply LoHH) is a unique realm, constantly changing throughout the year in accordance to whomever holds the Year. Housed here is the Season Tree, which keeps track of the balance of the seasons throughout Gielinor. Some tree, huh?
It should be noted that throughout the years, we have visited many different places in the Land of Snow, as opposed to no places from the Land of Sunrise. This would include the Battle Courtyard (from Christmas 2007), the cave system (Myths quest), and Ebanezer Scourge's house.
We also have confirmation that there are at least 3 species native to the Land of Snow: Ice Sprites, Snow Imps, and humans (or at least, humans who study magic). While it may be surprising that humans reside in this land, it was noted by the Snow Imp that since Gielinor and the Land of Snow are so close to each other during Christmas time, ô"random people stumble across portals an' turn up in the Land of Snow". This includes Santa Claus, which is how he met the Queen of Snow.

19-Apr-2016 17:32:25 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 17:52:53 by MegicaláMan

MegicaláMan

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The Queen of Sunrise

An interesting creature, we are not quite sure what her species is (She looks human, but looks can be deceiving). However, we do know that she was entrusted by Guthix himself to bring about Spring and Summer, and to balance out the Queen of Snowĺs powers. Unfortunately, not much else is known about her.

The Spirits

During the 2011 Easter event, we met 3 Spirits who seem to be Spirits of Spring. They could, however, just be elemental spirits who cycle between seasons as the Season Tree does. These spirits are of Water, Cloud, and Stone. Their designs havenĺt been seen before, and I donĺt think they have been seen since. They seem to have mild control over the element they represent, and this power can be given to others in the form of the Cloud/Water/Stone Keys.

The Queen of Snow

Yes, the fabled Queen of Snow, ruler to the Land of Snow, and the wife of Santa. Her official species is Ice Sprite, making her son (Jack Frost) half Ice Sprite. Ice Sprites age extremely slowly, and according to the 2008 Christmas Event. Like the Queen of Sunrise, the Queen of Snow was tasked by Guthix to bring Autumn and Winter to Gielinor.

19-Apr-2016 17:32:31 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 17:53:57 by MegicaláMan

MegicaláMan

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The Season Tree and the Year (And
Guthixĺ Influence
)


This magic tree keeps balance of the season, located directly on the border of the Land of Snow and the Land of Sunlight. Whether this tree has always been around, or was planted by Guthix upon assigning the two Queens their positions isnĺt known currently. Another item that we have barely no knowledge about it the Year. A baton, which we are to believe is simply ceremonial, it does seem to have some sort of power in it. Unless the Queens are extremely by-the-book, they could have switched seasons just by making the Queen of Snow kneel. However, it was only when the Queen of Sunrise received the Year that she was able to invoke Spring.

As stated, Guthix tasked both the Queen of Snow and the Queen of Sunrise to bring forth certain seasons, keeping Gielinor in what Guthix wanted, a balance. It really goes to show how much of a foresight Guthix had with his plans for Gielinor, tasking creatures to guard over even seasons. While, during the time, this may not have had any major thought behind it, it leads to one of the more prominent theories that I have to presentů

19-Apr-2016 17:32:35 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 17:34:19 by MegicaláMan

MegicaláMan

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Theories:

1.) The Queen of Sunrise and the Queen of Snow are actually secret Guardians of Guthix.

To me, this holds a lot of weight if we piece together what we know. As stated, the two Queens were tasked by Guthix to bring forth their represented seasons. We know from the Queen of Snow, that she worships Guthix. Meaning, the Queen of Sunrise logically does as well.

The requirement to be a Guardian of Guthix is that you must be tasked by Guthix to do something important, and that you are one of his followers (not one of his creations ((sorry Balance Elemental)))

If this were to be confirmed, it would make them some of the few Guardians to not be present as Guthix' assassination. Logically, only one of them could have been there anyway (depending on the season). Maybe Guthix requested that no matter what, they stay away from battle?

19-Apr-2016 17:32:39 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 17:45:52 by MegicaláMan

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Theories (cont.)

2.) The Year, and by extension, the Season Tree, are more powerful that let on

While I understand why the lore was never really thought out about a seasonal quest released 5 years ago, with our current knowledge about powerful artifacts, it's fun to speculate. So, we have a few choices here...

A.) The Year is an Elder Artifact: While this is a long shot, it does seem to have some use to Elders who are creating new planes of existence. It could be used to test the areas out in different seasons, or it may just overall be a weather controlling Artifact that is simply only used to command seasons. It was stated that when Guthix arrived, he found multiple artifacts, so it wouldn't really be surprising if one of them slipped through the lore books. As for the Season Tree? It could have been something metaphorical, to symbolize the changing seasons. Whether the tree had real power or not is also debatable.

B.) The Season Tree is a powerhouse of Anima Mundi: This one seems to be a little more plausible, especially if Guthix had a hand in creating it (or harnessing it's powers). As mentioned, it has been stated that the Land of Snow (and the lands attached to it) are very close to Gielinor, but even more so during Christmas time. It would make sense to me that if these Lands had such proximity to Gielinor, they would share the same Anima Mundi. This tree could be connected to the world's Anima, similar to Vorago, and the two Queen's were simply tasked by Guthix to guard the tree.

19-Apr-2016 17:32:43 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 17:49:04 by MegicaláMan

MegicaláMan

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What now?


These are the things that I would like to see going forward.

A.) A new 6th age quest series opens, bringing us back to the Land of Holly and Hawthorn. During this quest line, we find out that the two Queens are actually Guardians of Guthix, and they have heard rumors that some Gods are planning on attacking the Season Tree (or stealing the year, depending on the theory) to gain it's immense power. So they enlist your help to try to protect these objects and their homelands.

B.) We get a counterpart quest to Myths of the White Lands, called Myths of the Bright Lands (or something, idk). It would allow us to explore parts of the Land of Sunlight, and also finally make MotWL a prereq for something.

C. We get another seasonal event explaining more lore about the Queen of Sunrise, and the LoHH. We already have like 5 events where the Queen of Snow has shown up, so maybe it's time to invoke Guthix and bring some balance back into that?

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CrowáCrimson
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I'd like to mention that New Domina has also been confirmed to have winter and summer seasons. This could mean that it's also connected to Gielinor/Land of Hollow and Hawthorne or that there's a different force that's causing the seasons.

Secondly, there's been a tendency of revealing planes and realms to actually being planets. Maybe the Lands of Snow and Sunlight are actually planets whose orbits affect the entire multiverse.

Also, in the 2009 Halloween event, the Spider Queen claims that Guthix decreed that spider webs should remain unswept on Halloweens. This is another example of Guthix tasking his followers orders, and provides evidence that one does not have to be a world guardian to receive orders from him.

Finally, I'm somewhat curious how snow imps came to serve the Queen of Snow. I assume that they originated from Infernus. Or did they grow up from impling from Puro-Puro? We know that they aren't the only demons with cryokinesis due to the existence of Zamorakian icefiends and ice demons. Other demons look down upon them for not following Zamorak's orders. However, as revealed from Myths of the White Lands and the 2013 Christamas Event, snow imps enjoy causing mischief just like normal imps.
The legendary creators have been long gone from this world. When they return, they'll be surprised and angered of their creations' new sapience. Meanwhile, the world's most elite, summoned to be its guardians, have abandoned their purpose and intend to plunge the world into chaos. -- Bionicle or RS?

19-Apr-2016 23:52:38

MegicaláMan

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CrowáCrimson said:
I'd like to mention that New Domina has also been confirmed to have winter and summer seasons. This could mean that it's also connected to Gielinor/Land of Holly and Hawthorne or that there's a different force that's causing the seasons.


Well if we did go with the idea that the Season Tree was a powerhouse of Anima, then it would make sense for each planet to potentially have one. I feel like it could go either way, honestly.

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Secondly, there's been a tendency of revealing planes and realms to actually being planets. Maybe the Lands of Snow and Sunlight are actually planets whose orbits affect the entire multiverse.


Well, we know that the Land of Snow and the Land of Sunlight would, at the very least, be on the same planet.

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Also, in the 2009 Halloween event, the Spider Queen claims that Guthix decreed that spider webs should remain unswept on Halloweens. This is another example of Guthix tasking his followers orders, and provides evidence that one does not have to be a world guardian to receive orders from him.


I don't mean to rain of the Spider Queen's parade, but to me, a decree over spiderwebs isn't the same as tasking two entities to guard the seasons of the planet. Typically, a decree is a request that only holds merit because the people who are to follow the decree either worship or respect the person giving it out. So, I do think that my theory that the Queen of Sunrise and the Queen of Snow are actually Guardians of Guthix still stands. (That is, unless we find out that they were somehow created by Guthix, but I don't see that happening). I do agree that one doesn't have to be a world guardian, or Guardian of Guthix, to receive orders from him, though. But if they aren't Guardians, then they could just not listen to those orders.

20-Apr-2016 01:16:10

MegicaláMan

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Finally, I'm somewhat curious how snow imps came to serve the Queen of Snow. I assume that they originated from Infernus. Or did they grow up from impling from Puro-Puro? We know that they aren't the only demons with cryokinesis due to the existence of Zamorakian icefiends and ice demons. Other demons look down upon them for not following Zamorak's orders. However, as revealed from Myths of the White Lands and the 2013 Christamas Event, snow imps enjoy causing mischief just like normal imps.


Like I said, I would love for a quest series to come about from the Queen of Sunrise/Snow story-line. Even if it was just a single quest that answered some questions, that would be great. I mean, just out of pure speculation, maybe a group of the Snow Imps fell through a portal during Christmas time long ago, and since they were basically trapped there, they decided to follow the Queen of Snow?

20-Apr-2016 01:18:18

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