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Raleirosen
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Allarla said:
Why do you think I've kept asking you that what if WG is from irl? :P :D But yes, though this might be because of her "coming to life" in 2009 when Ashdale was nowhere to be found on the map, and Lummy was the starting point. At first she was to have a Lumby origin, but after running into one irl reference after the other, it made more sense that she'd be from the real life.

I actually quite like that. I've always loved games that manage to provide a compelling story of their own while simultaneously being self-aware enough to gently remind you of what they really are. As an MMOR** RuneScape has the absolutely perfect combination of tone, setting and gameplay for small meta hints like that... y'know, things that poke lightly at the thin fabric of virtual reality. It's unfortunate that those sorts of things have really fallen by the wayside since RS3.
Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

25-May-2016 14:17:11

Hguoh
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Allarla said:
Why do you think I've kept asking you that what if WG is from irl? :P :D But yes, though this might be because of her "coming to life" in 2009 when Ashdale was nowhere to be found on the map, and Lummy was the starting point. At first she was to have a Lumby origin, but after running into one irl reference after the other, it made more sense that she'd be from the real life.


And the new information doesn't prevent you from having this backstory, you just need to account for it. As far as we know, the character's current body was born on Gielinor some time during the 5th age and is human.

There is nothing to state that your character's current consciousness is the body's original. You can easily maintain your backstory by claiming that their mind originated in the real world before ending up in the body of a fledgling adventurer on Ashedale (which, if you think about it, is pretty much how playing RS appears to work).

Oh, and to address your concern about the character knowing something we don't, I see it as a similar situation to the events of the Dwarf quest line (the character having had their mind wiped (it prevents us from being able to act on the info until the next quest). Heck, they can even play it off by having the piece of our soul which Sliske took be the part containing the memory of those events.

25-May-2016 16:37:51 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 16:39:06 by Hguoh

Allarla
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Raleirosen said:
Allarla said:
Why do you think I've kept asking you that what if WG is from irl? :P :D But yes, though this might be because of her "coming to life" in 2009 when Ashdale was nowhere to be found on the map, and Lummy was the starting point. At first she was to have a Lumby origin, but after running into one irl reference after the other, it made more sense that she'd be from the real life.

I actually quite like that.
Glad about that. :)
Raleirosen said:
I've always loved games that manage to provide a compelling story of their own while simultaneously being self-aware enough to gently remind you of what they really are. As an MMOR** RuneScape has the absolutely perfect combination of tone, setting and gameplay for small meta hints like that... y'know, things that poke lightly at the thin fabric of virtual reality. It's unfortunate that those sorts of things have really fallen by the wayside since RS3.
Well, we still get a small reference here and there every now and then. :)
The Green World Guardian of Guthix and of Gielinor

25-May-2016 19:10:18

Allarla
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Hguoh said:
And the new information doesn't prevent you from having this backstory, you just need to account for it. As far as we know, the character's current body was born on Gielinor some time during the 5th age and is human.

There is nothing to state that your character's current consciousness is the body's original. You can easily maintain your backstory by claiming that their mind originated in the real world before ending up in the body of a fledgling adventurer on Ashedale (which, if you think about it, is pretty much how playing RS appears to work).
I know I'm gonna be the stubborn one here, and sorry about that, but no. :P My character is from the real world, both body and brain, she got transported into Rs (but not Ashdale - that came only later on with Shadow over Ashdale and Morvenna, but that one as another adventure of hers, not the first one -, but Lumbridge as a starting point), and is trying to stay alive there before it's time for her to come back to irl. ;)

Hguoh said:
Oh, and to address your concern about the character knowing something we don't, I see it as a similar situation to the events of the Dwarf quest line (the character having had their mind wiped (it prevents us from being able to act on the info until the next quest). Heck, they can even play it off by having the piece of our soul which Sliske took be the part containing the memory of those events.
Yeah, but in that quest, at least I 1) knew I was brainwashed, 2) still saw before what my character saw, so I knew as a player what my character was made to forget. But yeah, I guess I'll have to go along with that removed part of the soul theory. :P
The Green World Guardian of Guthix and of Gielinor

25-May-2016 19:12:40

Sepulchre
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Cthris said:
AesirWarrior said:
See personally I dislike respawning being canon. I'm fine with the explanation, it's not that it doesn't make sense, but I just feel like it devalues the story. Hazelmere rescuing us, Akrisae sacrifising himself, all those deaths... Are meaningless because we can just respawn.

I think it makes their deaths beautifully more tragic. It's almost on a Shakespearian level. Their deaths are so unnecessary, if they had paid a little more attention, like Sliske has, then they would be among the living.
Akrisae didn't save us from death. He saved us from a fate MUCH WORSE than death. Kindred Spirits proved that.
A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

26-May-2016 07:21:54

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