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Ahtelhrax

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Hmm... they look pretty far from Dragonkin, let alone a lack of wings, I can see this maybe being correct but tbh i kinda doubt it. If Xau-Tak did anything to the dragonkin at Ulthven Kreath, then it's make them undead. And didn't the journals establish that the Mwanu are apes/ape-like? Not lizardish in any way? And that they originated on Jermyn alongside other apes?

20-Mar-2018 18:03:50

Ahtelhrax

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Look at the horrors. They look absolutely nothing like dragonkin, even the Nihil have some resemblance to their roots, for example the shadow nihils have demonic traits. The dragonkin (i would use photos if i could) have snouts, wings, and reptillian scales and spines. They also wear clothes.

The Mwanu, however, are humanoid. or ape-like is the better term. They appear to have no eyes, flat faces and massive hands. they barely wear anything, and have bald heads with spots on their heads. They are nothing alike. A completely different race.

20-Mar-2018 18:42:47

Ahtelhrax

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You say that the dragonkin are the mwanu, because they "were ruthless warriors like the Necrosyrtes. However some mwanu, particularly one of the journal authors is passive and intelligent more like the dactyl. The horrors of mos le harmless do not show anywhere near the same degree of intelligence depicted by the mwanu in the journals. "

You can have different types of people in a race. Some humans are bandits and highwaymen, while some are chemists, literally. You can get goblins like Oldak, and goblins like General Bentnoze.

Another reason you use is,

"The dragonkin are also first seen on mos le harmless and rabid jacks base of operations is a sunken dragonkin temple containing the a portal with large stone arms."

I'm fairly sure this is either just coincidence, or the dragonkin homeworld might have been tropical. I dunno. But either way,

Correlation ≠ Confirmation!

20-Mar-2018 19:02:11

Ahtelhrax

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Devil Vein said:
Its all theory. There is some evidence to support it but none to confirm it. The Mwanu being the horrors is also theory.

But the observed horrors are:

A.) Not very intelligent
B.) Do not build massive structures like those described by the mwanu in the journal
C.) Worship 4 deities, the Mwanu only ever mention worshiping one.
D.) Ape like in appearance. While the Mwanu seem to hate the ape creatures/monkeys of the jungle.

The Dragonkin however are:

A.) Very intelligent. They can speak their own language and the common tongue
B.) Have been observed to build huge impressive structures.
C.) Do not seem to worship a deity but have had a run in with some stone hands at one point.
D.) Show a superiority like nature to everything they encounter.

The theory goes that the Mwanu are actually the Dragonkin and the Horrors are their prey/enemies which were the apes/monkeys of the Jungles of Jermyn.


it's also theory that the Horrors are devolved Mwanu, after xau-tak was angrered at them for loosing against the 'god of tusk and fury' I'm also pretty sure that the horrors were observed to be the Remnants of a civillisation, and that the cave horror cave is a ruin.

20-Mar-2018 19:21:47

Ahtelhrax

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[quote id=341-342-725-65999096-19-342633806][quote id=341-342-725-65999096-17-342633753] Tez's blood could very well be dragon fire since Tez is described as having a firey gaze.[/quote] Actually not sure where you get the ability for a race to breathe fire from a god having a fiery gaze. That in no way means that Xau-Tak can give fire breath, it just means his eyes are like suns....

20-Mar-2018 20:06:35

Ahtelhrax

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Wahisietel said:
Yeah, no. The ape-like horrors sharing the same homeworld as the apes and monkeys is the whole point of that book being a thing in the first place.

The previous cycle did not have monkeys and apes, the Dragonkin are the only thing known to survive from it. If Xau-Tak was around and known to the Dragonkin when Jas bound them to the stone, she likely would have done something about it.

The Mwanu devolving into what we now know of horrors is kind of the whole point of the books - there's a noticeable degradation in the depiction of the horrors between the fourth and fifth books, which are explicitly said to be horrors.


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20-Mar-2018 21:26:30

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