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BarryManilow
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I just finished Dimension of Disaster recently and I found the premise of the quest to be really interesting. This is the type of quest series that Jagex can milk a lot of concepts out of. Imagine a sequel that focuses around the Falador storylines, or a character from DoD comes to our world.

Regardless, I want to compile a list of events that happened in DoD that differed from the mainstream reality.

The obvious thing is that DoD is a alt reality where your character never existed. You weren't there to stop Delrith, you weren't there to restore Arrav and defend Varrock from Zemouragal's zombie invasion. But as you go through the quest, reading the optional lorebooks and examining some of the context clues, there are a number of events showing that the Dimension was already drastically different before the year you were supposed to be born.

In DoD, Zaros never arrived in Gielinor. The area we know as Sennisten was controlled by Loarnab until Zamorak came in to kill the many-headed god. Unlike our world, Zamorak never returned after vanquishing a god. It could be implied that he failed in helping the Avernic uprising and possibly perished for his efforts.

It seemed as if the Godwars still happened in some capacity, at least the battle for the Godsword was mentioned. Nex is implied to be a creation of Loarnab, and utilizes hydra DNA as a part of her genealogy. A cabinet filled with Godswords is in Zemouragal's treasure vault, and a Zamorak Godsword is a part of Zem's collection. These are implied to be replicas since Zemouragal's journal states that the Godsword is still lost.

There's a lot of missing information between what happened since that universe's version of the God Wars and the 170th year of their fifth age. Did Guthix resurface to end the wars? Did the gods ravage the world and leave? Where were gods like Saradomin in this world? ARE THERE SOMEHOW ALTERNATE REALITY VERSIONS OF GODS?

Feel free to correct me or add additional information.

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01-Jun-2017 18:58:38

Hguoh
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Zamorak returned (as is evident by the chaotic divine energy).

And as far as we know, the other gods did not die. The only thing we've been told about it so far is that Guthix took most of their divine power, kicked them off the plane, and then went to sleep.

01-Jun-2017 22:02:37

Penny Drakis
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Long ago in a distant land, I, Amascut, the shape-shifting Mistress of Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Amascut!

Um, nevermind.

Anyhow Amascut is the only confirmed god still active on the planet. Guthix is presumably still around, but inactive/busy sleeping/busy keeping the anti-god barrier up/busy keeping the Elder Gods asleep. The 2016 Halloween event took place in the same timeline as Dimension of Disaster quest(s) and the God Construct that was created and killed for that event's daily award was made up of the divine energies of Saradomin, Zamorak, Armadyl, and Bandos. And apparently there was tons of it just lying around.

From the 2016 Halloween Event we also know that Guthix did not kill Saradomin, Zamorak, Armadyl, and Bandos, but he did beat them badly enough to make them bleed anima all over the place before banishing them.

Hmmm.. I guess that means Amascut was not involved enough in the God Wars to get banished in the DoD timeline either, even by the standards of a more edgier, more forever alone Guthix. Interesting.
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02-Jun-2017 03:56:43

BarryManilow
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Hguoh said:
Zamorak returned (as is evident by the chaotic divine energy).

And as far as we know, the other gods did not die. The only thing we've been told about it so far is that Guthix took most of their divine power, kicked them off the plane, and then went to sleep.

That's strange. In Zem's notes, he downright states that Zamorak defeats Loarnab and then disappeared to never return. He said that other Mahjaraats look at Zamorak as a hero, but nobody knows where he is after he disappeared. Is Zemouragal embellishing or is there a possible lore inconsistency?
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02-Jun-2017 04:58:59

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In truth, yes, much of the "main timeline" and "DoD timeline" were consistent.

But without the player character:
- you never got access to the Enchanted Key
- you never went to the past to talk to 1st Age humans and help them out (there was an elf roaming around acting as a scout)
So without the scout seeing anything of particular note on Gilienor, Seren never came.
Seren recognized the magic of the Enchanted Key and thought it was either an Elder Artifact or had the potential to help solve the issue of the Elves being bound to her (in a sense).
- Since Seren never came to Gielinor, Zaros never came either
- Since Zaros never came, Loarnab was never used as a living battery to power portals for demons to arrives to Gielinor
Loarnab was then able to achieve sentience (he was a beastial god, much like Tuska ... all divine power, no higher brain function).
- Loarnab more or less filled the role that Zaros had
- Without Seren's influence/support over the 1st Age, Guthix was likely a little more ... angrish (what's the word?) ... not quite as gentle as we knew him before ...
- Without anyone needing to visit Guthix, Guthix is still asleep

02-Jun-2017 06:25:36

Hguoh
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BarryManilow said:
Hguoh said:
Zamorak returned (as is evident by the chaotic divine energy).

And as far as we know, the other gods did not die. The only thing we've been told about it so far is that Guthix took most of their divine power, kicked them off the plane, and then went to sleep.

That's strange. In Zem's notes, he downright states that Zamorak defeats Loarnab and then disappeared to never return. He said that other Mahjaraats look at Zamorak as a hero, but nobody knows where he is after he disappeared. Is Zemouragal embellishing or is there a possible lore inconsistency?


Consider how much Zemo embellishes and deifies himself elsewhere in his 'records':

In times past Gielinor was united in a single, massive empire which spread from Forinthry to Menaphos.
We know that, at the very least, Saradomin, Armadyl, and Bandos were present on Gielinor during the God Wars. So I find it somewhat unlikely that Loarnab controlled all the land. I also think that Amascut's survival into the current age casts doubt on Loarnab having had control of the entire desert region.


Enakhra
A truly irrational and imbecilic Mahjarrat who lived as an insane hermit in the desert for thousands of years, erecting vain monuments to a best-forgotten leader.
Somebody can't handle rejection.


Lucien
A pompous and overbearing oaf who was tolerated merely because of his blood ties to Magnificent Zemouregal.
Sure Zemo, whatever you say.


Palkeera
A noble matron of the Mahjarrat race, it is doubtless Palkeera from whom General Khazard inherited his finer qualities.
It's not like Zemo's trying to write Khazard's father out of the history books or anything, right?


And, of course, there's his entire entry on himself in which he self aggrandizes to no end.

02-Jun-2017 15:58:47

Kittyphantom
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The differences between the DoD and the "main timeline" can only be minimal, with or without the absence of adventurers - I remember Gypsy Aris saying that our objective in the quest was to resolve the discrepancies. If I am remembering it correctly, that also makes a sequel unlikely, as the world outside New Varrock (and I guess Falador and the area north of it) can't be *that* different.

Boy, when I finally got around to doing Dimension of Disaster, I had sooo many headcanons about the outside world, though. I think there may finally be a happy ending for this timeline after Arrav beat Zemouregal and we helped out at Ice Mountain in the Halloween event. Certainly the implication at the end of DoD was a happy ending. Despite so many npcs we know having died...
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05-Jun-2017 08:44:10 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2017 08:46:09 by Kittyphantom

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