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Edcy

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oh lawlcakes, plenty as many as two posts applied instead of intented one, pardon will you for whatever that strange power taking hold of my otherwise glorious connections in the spiders web huhu

ill just res this to answer for a possible answer to my 1st post in prev page yes does the future conclude such idk ill see

24-May-2019 01:49:48 - Last edited on 24-May-2019 01:52:05 by Edcy

Devil Vein
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Winterbelle said:
I love how the Obsidian Tribunal has finally made an appearance. I think their master is not necessarily Xau-Tak, though.

Veil-Ripper Ozharakha? That's definitely an interesting name. Seeing how stalkers are already eldritch abominations in their own right, the connection makes sense.

Finally, I have no idea how Xau-Tak is unaware of Gielinor. He's literally been on Gielinor for a while. The Book of V notes that Xau-Tak's tendrils have taken root on Gielinor. Not to mention the black hands and stuff. The Ambassador's dying words are even "you only live because has not yet noticed you." Weird.


Here is a link to the tweet from Mod Raven confirming Xau-Tak doesn't know about our little rock yet and everything thus far is a product of Kranon.

https://twitter.com/JagexRaven/status/1102859415458365440?s=09

My theory on what V is talking about with tendrils is that Xau has followers on this world. Or that his power is being used on this world. Remember Kranon took a small portion of Xau's power and put it in himself. Im guessing thats where all the hands come from and the ability to manufacture black stone.

As for the topic at hand, the Veil, Im still curious as to what it is or who created it.

You may also be correct about the tribunal's master not being Xau-Tak. Kranon mentions their leader to be "Agnes" (What an unattractive name) but Agnes may be an agent of Xau-Tak herself.
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24-May-2019 04:30:00

Sepulchre
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Not for nothing, but I recall 'the veil' being used as a term in a quest once before.
Summer's End. It kept talking about how the Spirit Beast was 'breaking the veil' between worlds, and that even we were able to enter it where the Beast was breaking it. Of course, this breaking of the veil turned out to be it breaking the barrier between the Spirit Realm and the rest of Gielinor, leaving only the Void.
Looking back at RuneFest 2017, there was a map of the planar gallery...



My best guess for what was happening in Summer's End (and this is my guess for what 'the veil' is in this case as well) is that the solid white lines that border each plane, with the abyss between them, is what is referred to as 'the veil.'
But I believe this Veil may do more than just hold the planes together on a physical level. During Summer's End there is an earthquake caused by the Beast breaking through the Veil between the Spirit Realm and this realm. This leads me to believe that the Veil also actually keeps the different levels of a plane stable. If you look at the picture above, you see the Incorporeal Planes: Shadow Realm, Underworld, Afterlife... and Spirit Realm. Now isn't that interesting.
When the Spirit Beast was clawing through the Veil, it wasn't just pushing out of that realm, it was breaking the plane's stability (hence the Earthquake). This leads back to the Xau-Tak/Shadow Realm connection. IF Xau-Tak's goal is to pierce the Veil, and his connection to the Shadow Realm is as strong as I - and others - believe, then the point of piercing the Veil is probably: killing the stability of the Plane to allow the Shadow Realm to breach into the rest of Gielinor.

... Shadow Realm... Breach...
The Shadow Breach.
Maybe Guthix knew about Xau-Tak after all?
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24-May-2019 14:50:34 - Last edited on 24-May-2019 14:53:46 by Sepulchre

Winterbelle
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Aaahhh, so everything from the Glory of Zaros incident to transporting the Mwanu from Jermyn to Gielinor to the cosmic kitten from Piece of Hate to the elite dungeon trilogy were all Kranon? Okay, I can get how the ED trilogy is Kranon's doing without Xau-Tak's direct involvement, but everything else? Seems a bit retconny to me.
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26-May-2019 07:29:24

Devil Vein
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Sepulchre said:
Not for nothing, but I recall 'the veil' being used as a term in a quest once before.
Summer's End. It kept talking about how the Spirit Beast was 'breaking the veil' between worlds, and that even we were able to enter it where the Beast was breaking it. Of course, this breaking of the veil turned out to be it breaking the barrier between the Spirit Realm and the rest of Gielinor, leaving only the Void.
Looking back at RuneFest 2017, there was a map of the planar gallery...



My best guess for what was happening in Summer's End (and this is my guess for what 'the veil' is in this case as well) is that the solid white lines that border each plane, with the abyss between them, is what is referred to as 'the veil.'
But I believe this Veil may do more than just hold the planes together on a physical level. During Summer's End there is an earthquake caused by the Beast breaking through the Veil between the Spirit Realm and this realm. This leads me to believe that the Veil also actually keeps the different levels of a plane stable. If you look at the picture above, you see the Incorporeal Planes: Shadow Realm, Underworld, Afterlife... and Spirit Realm. Now isn't that interesting.
When the Spirit Beast was clawing through the Veil, it wasn't just pushing out of that realm, it was breaking the plane's stability (hence the Earthquake). This leads back to the Xau-Tak/Shadow Realm connection. IF Xau-Tak's goal is to pierce the Veil, and his connection to the Shadow Realm is as strong as I - and others - believe, then the point of piercing the Veil is probably: killing the stability of the Plane to allow the Shadow Realm to breach into the rest of Gielinor.

... Shadow Realm... Breach...
The Shadow Breach.
Maybe Guthix knew about Xau-Tak after all?


This is very plausible. Zaros has some knowledge of kranon and xau and has spent a lot of time in the shadow realm. Maybe thats how he knew
I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

28-May-2019 06:53:16

Devil Vein
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Winterbelle said:
Aaahhh, so everything from the Glory of Zaros incident to transporting the Mwanu from Jermyn to Gielinor to the cosmic kitten from Piece of Hate to the elite dungeon trilogy were all Kranon? Okay, I can get how the ED trilogy is Kranon's doing without Xau-Tak's direct involvement, but everything else? Seems a bit retconny to me.


If that is the case you are right, does feel retconned. But i think Gielinor is the only thing Xau hasnt taken notice of. He knows all about the world guardian and Kranon states he is told our name by his master. My guess is Xau has been the one talking to us through cut scene kittens and dead goblins and warped seamen, but has done so through unknowable means. And hasnt set his sight on our little world yet.
I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

28-May-2019 06:55:48

DeathIsMyBFF
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maybe he noticed us due to our unnatural powers that Guthix gave us when he made us the World Guardian? the elders are sleeping so maybe their power isnt felt but we are the one anomaly that shouldn't even exist in the first place and we might be the reason that
Xau-Tak is eventually drawn to Gielinor
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31-May-2019 10:03:20

Devil Vein
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DeathIsMyBFF said:
maybe he noticed us due to our unnatural powers that Guthix gave us when he made us the World Guardian? the elders are sleeping so maybe their power isnt felt but we are the one anomaly that shouldn't even exist in the first place and we might be the reason that
Xau-Tak is eventually drawn to Gielinor


Unlikely since Guthix himself along with other t2 gods and now the awakened elders roamed Gielinor. Im pretty sure the veil is what is preventing the cosmic horrors of the RS universe from completely destroying the planet and all life. Question is who or what created the veil. Possibly the elders so they could sleep undisturbed. Possibly Guthix after he encountered xau or one of his agents in his travels.
I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

16-Jun-2019 06:32:51

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