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Devil Vein said:
Haukur said:
From what I have gathered from reading over the transcripts of his journals is this. He stumbled upon Tumeken's soul in the underworld. He is also seeking out godhood himself . But not from the use of any elder artifact, but through soul manipulation.


How can Tumeken have a soul? I get the sense that all the journals and the magisters battle occurs in 5th age and that theres more to the info that nomad knows which leads to his creation of Gilenior in Nomads Elegy in the 6th age. A god truely deserving of its title...


But there's more. I have felt it. There resides here a soul of tremendous power, a soul clearly divine in nature, yet it is not whole. It is split across several pieces, many of which have changed to become, of themselves, singular entities.

The souls making up Gielinor wouldn't have been "clearly Divine in nature", nor would they be part of a singular being pre-construction. Oreb refers to one soul that had been split into several parts, which is consistent with what we know about Tumeken. Restoring his soul has been a prominent plot point of the Desert series for a while now. Most notably, the four aspects make up his bau, who match the "singular entities" Oreb mentions in his journals.

Also, maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe a god that can be defeated by Icthlarin and Death, who are fairly weak in the grand scheme of things, is a "truer" god than the continent-levelling gods at the top of the tier scale.
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15-Jul-2017 20:46:38 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2017 20:47:10 by AesirWarrior

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Devil Vein said:

I believe Oreb is referencing the anima mundi here. How it splinters into several souls which one day rejoin the source (as telos puts it.) We ve all seen how powerful the anima mundi can be and i really believe thats what hes talking about here. As for Icthlarin or death killing Gielinor Jagex said god tiers arent about raw power but about knowledge.


No, the tiers have always been about power. Zamorak lost power during the Battle of Lumbridge so he dropped a tier, he gained power in Dat so he gained a tier. Saradomin rose to T3 because of his victory in BoL. Bandos descended to T4 because Zanik destroyed the amulet. The original "hiearchy" page on the RS homepage clearly use the tiers of godhood as a measurement of power.


Jagex have said that they're not necessarily a guide to who beats who, and a more cunning or knowledgable god can beat a more powerful one, but on their own the tiers have always exclusively been about power.


Whether you look at knowledge, power, or fashion style, Icthlarin and Death aren't close to kill anything that's supposed to dwarf the other gods in power. The only possibility is that Gielinor wasn't finished if that was the case.

And how exactly is the Anima Mundi "divine"? Divine energy is a fairly well-defined thing, seperate from just standard Anima.
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

16-Jul-2017 02:14:10 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2017 02:17:28 by AesirWarrior

AesirWarrior

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Devil Vein said:


I dont see how a complete Tumeken is more worthy of the moniker of a God than the other young gods. As we know he was tier 5..


Yes. Tumeken isn't more of a god than the others and the journals never implied so. Oreb isn't saying that the soul in question is somehow more powerful than the other gods, its existence simply prompted him to speculate what could theoretically be achieved by splitting up your essence.

And while you could fancifully call the Anima Mundi "divine", that'd be a bit misleading considering Divine Energy is an actual thing. I also find it a bit odd that Oreb, a supposed master of soul manipulation, didn't know about the Anima Mundi before coming to Menaphos. In fact, he claims he "sensed" it, which you'd think he'd always do, both on Gielinor and Teragard, since the Anima Munfi flows through all life.
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

16-Jul-2017 20:25:32 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2017 20:26:45 by AesirWarrior

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Sodden Hound said:
@Devil, the Anima Mundi definitely isn't divine. It's plain life force. Not the "refined" energy that is found in gods, Mahjarrat, and elder artefacts.

Also @Aesir, elaborate on him not knowing about the Anima Mundi? I don't recall anything about that I don't think?


I was a bit unclear there, sorry. I meant that if the divine and tremendously powerful soul Oreb sensed is the Anima Mundi, like Devil Vein claims, then that would imply he doesn't know about it, as he treats this "soul" as something he discovered recently. I thought it would be weird if a highly-intelligent soul manipulator like Oreb didn't know about something as prevalent as the Anima Mundi.
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

17-Jul-2017 08:21:05 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2017 08:22:19 by AesirWarrior

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