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Audx
Jul Gold Premier Club Member 2009

Audx

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Quite incredibly, after almost four years of waiting, the latest Completionist Cape Rework Developer Blog offers an acknowledgment that the "the Reaper" title requirement is actually a legitimate issue for the completionist community:

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Problem 3
The third significant problem we're aware of are specific problematic requirements which keep recurring, especially reaper and castle wars. Reaper has two closely related issues - it adds both hard PVM content and forced group content as requirements, which locks out players who can't or won't do either of those things.


I couldn't be more excited to see the opportunity to have a completionist cape (or capes) that fairly and truly represents what the RuneScape community recognizes as a completionist, and to contribute toward the resolution of the issues which the current standard of "completionist" faces.

So, please, vote - whether you are in favor of the "Reaper" requirement as it currently stands or not, the opportunity to allow your voice to be heard on the matter is far too great to miss.
With the Utmost Sincerity, Respect, and Integrity,

~Audx :D

24-Jan-2019 04:03:04

Audx
Jul Gold Premier Club Member 2009

Audx

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ELITE STACK said:
What are the questions for compers only survey?


The questions for each survey are identical - the only difference between the polls is the prerequisite to access them, which allows Jagex to divide the community’s feedback into categories (like “aspiring to comp/other” and “already comp’d”) so that they can evaluate the responses from players who would be affected by a rework to the completionist cape requirements differently.

At least, the latter portion is my speculation; but I can confirm that the questions and multiple-choice responses for both versions of the survey are identical.
With the Utmost Sincerity, Respect, and Integrity,

~Audx :D

26-Jan-2019 04:59:09 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2019 04:59:49 by Audx

Zarudon
Mar Gold Premier Club Member 2018

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So, I finally obtained my first comp capes some days ago (hurray!) And I must say that the part that was most annoying was defeating Rots, tells, and Yakamaru. This was not because of their difficulty, but simply because people will not take players without any kills. This means constantly getting turned down and impossible to get a kill since no one is even willing to accept you into the team. I don't really think the reaper title is the problem. I would say that the problem is how these bosses have caps of 4, 10, and 7 players. This is the problem. Vorago and nex AoD, are no problem for they can easily be killed in large groups and in events hosted by mods. However, bosses like rtos, Yakamaru and Solak restrictions of only 4, 10, and 7 players along with the difficult mechanics makes it so teams are very selective in who they choose to bring. This is why they don't want to bring anyone for they don't know if they will mess up the kill.

I would say removing these caps is the solution. It would also let people who wish to learn the mechanics more opportunities to learn.

24-Apr-2019 08:03:45 - Last edited on 24-Apr-2019 08:09:53 by Zarudon

Audx
Jul Gold Premier Club Member 2009

Audx

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The “Reaper Crew” achievement will be removed as a requirement from the comp cape. Reaper has caused issues ever since its introduction, years after comp was initially brought into the game, frequently locking many players out of a cape they were otherwise always able to obtain. Hard bosses are intentionally designed to be harder than many players are comfortable with, which makes for a poor combination with the comp cape. Where most other content is normal easily accessible and solo-able, many various bosses introduce difficult, and forced group, gameplay. As well as this, reaper can sometimes limit developers from pushing difficulty on new high-end bosses as it can cause an uproar in the comp community - we’ve seen various instances of this in the past.


The “How Many Games?” Castle Wars achievement will be removed as a requirement from the trimmed comp cape. This achievement has also been controversial over the years - requiring a huge amount of time from the player. At one point it also had to have its requirement reduced, yet it still hasn’t improved since. It’s wildly out of sync with other achievements on the trimmed comp cape and quite frankly needs to be addressed. If we were releasing Castle Wars today, we would never put an achievement like this on it.

[...] The reason for this change is that the need for best in slot stats pushed a lot of players to pursue the comp cape when they actually had no interest in completionism.


I'm speechless, yet also indefinitely grateful. I earnestly hope that the next generation of completionists will look upon this change with approval - as controversial as it is, and as controversial as it will likely remain to be. Thank you - all of you, whether you offered your support or constructive criticisms - for lending your time and consideration to this issue.

After almost four years of debate, I can finally allow this thread to rest.
With the Utmost Sincerity, Respect, and Integrity,

~Audx :D

14-May-2019 06:39:30

UrekMazino
Nov Gold Premier Club Member 2015

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Audx said:
I'm speechless, yet also indefinitely grateful. I earnestly hope that the next generation of completionists will look upon this change with approval - as controversial as it is, and as controversial as it will likely remain to be. Thank you - all of you, whether you offered your support or constructive criticisms - for lending your time and consideration to this issue.

After almost fo
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Not to douse cold water on you but... Its not confirmed, its likely that's what will happen, but maybe just celebrate it once its confirmed or even better, once its implemented into the game.
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