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Ketsujo

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EDIT: FINALLY! The rework is in BETA at last! Jagex is listening to us for once! ITS A FREAKIN' MIRACLE! Given there are a LOT of hiccups with the beta right now, to be expected imo

Our Current Mining System - A Joke
Tin & Copper - lvl 1 (Tier one gears)
Iron - lvl 15 (Tier 10 gears)
Silver - lvl 20 (obsolete crafting material)
Coal - lvl 30 (vital resource for steel - runite)
Gold - lvl 40 (overly abundant crafting resource)
Mithril - lvl 55 (T30 gears)
Adamant - lvl 70 (T40 gears)
Runite - lvl 85 (T50 gears)

Now... do you see where the problems lie here? These resources levels should be equivalent to their required usages...and with the rework underway, new materials should become present...and be able to be utilized by everyone with 99 smithing already to date.

Tin & Copper - lvl 1
Iron - Lvl 10
Coal - Lvl 20
Mithril - Lvl 30
Adamant - Lvl 40
Runite - Lvl 50

This would go hand in hand with their level requirements to wear, and the EXP tables can be vastly reworked with a matter of ease. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to do this either. If you're wondering why I didn't include the Other Resources and Other Mining Materials...simply because THEY'RE NOT RELAVENT ENOUGH to the rework and their current levels are fine the where they're at currently. The Primary Methods of Training are what's in question here, and frankly those levels make much more sense.

Let's be realistic...with the 6th age here, and Sliske being a royal pain in the "MULE", I can see new resources popping up with the immense amount of energy all the gods and generals are pumping out fighting each other...and Runite Is NO LONGER the hardest material known to RuneScape!...how many years has it been since new armor was introduced that put Rune and the Dragon counterparts to shame?...Several! So let's here some ideas for new precious metal resources! Ever since Tuska crashed, the anima mundi she absorbed should have leaked out into the earth by now...
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26-Feb-2016 03:42:11 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2018 22:44:57 by Ketsujo

Ketsujo

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That being said, the astromancer's should have discovered something new to share with all of the world of runescape, this includes the wizards tower, the many factions of the dwarves, and even the many other races of runescape.

Yes Yes, I'm rambling I know...but as far as the smithing rework goes, the same should apply as the mining levels. None of this requiring level 19 to smith a T1 item or 99 to smith a t50 item...enough of that trash.

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26-Feb-2016 03:42:42 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 19:24:59 by Ketsujo

Peaky
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Ideas? They already decided on a few metals for lvl 60 and 70. and more on the way. Sorry to have bursted your bubble like that.

Currently there is Orihalcum(spelling? idk every freaking game spells it differently) for lvl 60 and Necronium for 70 or so. And while they don't have concrete(hey that could be a material! xD Could you imagine the hilarity?) plans as to what they'll place for T80, and T90, they won't listen to us. Fact is, they will be adding in ores for those levels in the future some time after the rework. The names of the ores? Irrelevant.

Forgot to point out the secondary materials to replace coal with higher level smithing. Runite is to be combined with "Imcandite" to make rune bars, for example.
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26-Feb-2016 03:50:37 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 03:51:50 by Peaky

Tagakhlo
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There is another thread which gives the details of a mod post outlining a planned rework in detail.

However, a more recent mod post about the various changes in store for this year says that they haven't really started figuring out what the mining and smithing rework will be like! So I guess that old plan is not set in stone.

26-Feb-2016 04:26:04

Ketsujo

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Orichalcum is normally the proper spelling...and this should be a t60 metal as its known to be "one of the hardest metals in the world". This could be used in Dragon Smithing, but since the fairy's have yet to reveal their secrets with us...could result in a new Fairy Tale quest? (Hopefully)

Titanium should be added at the t70 as it's one of our hardest metals...and is used in various things everywhere...and Titanium would fit in PERFECTLY with the invention skill...as well as crafting. (An invention Sub-Quest perhaps?) Could be useful in creating some high quality ranger gears.

Cacheim (mentioned in a very popular anime in Season 9) is an tough material in it's known universe and is described as having "Less Density, More Mass". Could result in some extremely heavy, but bulky tank armors for t80. (Should be found on mazcab or another area found by tweaking the world gate.)

Tungsten should be our T90 metal, as it's relatively the strongest natural, and most useful metal known to all living beings. Having great resistances to damage, heat, and forceful blows this metal could prove useful in smithing some epic gears for range and melee.

Our T99 metal should be Chromium, as it is quite honestly the most versatile metal known in existence. Ancient civilizations used to use this metal in their forging, and those smithed items still survive to date! This metal can be utilized for all 3 corners of the combat triangle.

For the Ultimate Coal, that's an easy one.
Carbide. This should be found in unique mining locations across runescape or we can make it a very VERY rare resource seeing as how its naturally found in meteorites and in corundum mines. Basically, Shooting Stars of all sizes should offer SOME of the resource while mining it and turning in 200 dust :-) These can be stored in the Coal Bag also, so our coal bag doesn't get ignored :-)
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26-Feb-2016 05:15:48 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 06:03:37 by Ketsujo

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For T60 - T99 smithing, I do feel a new quest should be introduced, but nothing to the point where Skillers get left out (except for smithing dragon stuff IF that ever get's "shared";).
We would need to learn how to utilize these new metals and the Carbide we would find across the world of runescape.

1 Orichalcum ore + 2 Carbide Cores per bar - Requires 60 smithing
2 Titanium ore + 4 Carbide Cores per bar - Requires 70 smithing
2 Cacheim brick + 8 Carbide Cores per bar - Requires 80 smith
2 Tungsten blocks + 8 Carbide Cores per bar - Requires 90 smithing
4 Chromium chunks + 12 Carbide Cores per bar - Requires 99 smithing

Nothing super extensive here, as I am sure that we'll see a massive abundance of these items eventually surface. Orichalcum and Titanium can be smelted in regular furnaces and with the super heat spell...but for Cacheim - Chromium...something more will be needed.

As far as smithing the higher level bars, the inventors of runescape have created a Super Furnace and will teach you how to use it on the T80 - T99 Metals...but only if you are skilled enough to do so. Having a high level in Crafting and Divination as well as having knowledge of invention will Greatly increase your chances of smelting the bars...instead of creating Unusable Molten Metal Lumps.
( see below for success rates)
Without having at least 70 Craft and Divination
Orichalcum - 90% chance to smelt a bar
Titanium - 70% chance to smelt a bar
Cacheim - 50% chance to smelt a bar
Tungsten - 30% chance to smelt a bar
Chromium - 25% chance to smelt a bar

Having at least 70 Craft and Divination
Orichalcum - 100% chance
Titanium - 100% chance
Cacheim - 80% chance
Tungsten - 50% chance
Chromium - 50% chance

The success rate should be this way since its a new metal, and the Ring of Forging should not work with these metals at all. Also, it would give people a reason to gather up these resources too.

Thoughts? Concerns? Issues?
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26-Feb-2016 05:44:47 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 06:07:05 by Ketsujo

Hguoh
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I question why you'd suggest using real world metals like tungsten, titanium, and chromium when we already have adamantine. Kinda feels like a step back to me, since adamantine was used to chain gods and kill the father of the Titans.

And I'm more inclined to go for something original to RS, like the original proposal's t70 ore, necronium, or standard in Tolkien fantasy (Orichalcum), than stealing a concept from a single anime.

26-Feb-2016 06:22:19

Ketsujo

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True...but I only suggested our current metals seeing as that what came to mind since I weld for a living. Couldn't really come up with unique names for metals, unless maybe jagex gets creative and just throws out the ores we already see in dungeoneering instead.

Who knows...but with the 6th age here (and I can readily sense the 7th age about to begin since if you paid closer attention and put pieces together in Nomad's Elegy (lore and story wise)...and just kinda read between the lines (like the dead give-a-way that nomad wasn't dead from when we kicked his teeth in during the first encounter)...you can tell that sliske is up to something quite devious and lets be real here...the way Jagex is progressing runescape, it will be a matter of time before we see another age creep upon us...

So...that's my reasoning as to why I used real-world metals instead of rambling off made up names for 3 out of the 5 I suggested.
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26-Feb-2016 06:40:13 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 06:42:03 by Ketsujo

Otikull

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Have you ever thought it weird or unfair that an
Elder Tree
and a
Runite Ore Rock
while being near the same tier of resources, Give completely different amounts? I agree with the rest of this thread to an extent but would just like to point out this small detail~
Although people may behold the same object, ever will they see different things. There is no right or wrong to it, for it is a question of perspective.

26-Feb-2016 08:53:25

Steve XXVII
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they allready have the t60 and t70 ones picked, and t80+ gear being smithable using normal bars would be unfair.
The t60 is Orichalkum, AKA Dragon metal, T70 is Necronium, AKA whatever the Barrows bros stuff is,
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26-Feb-2016 10:19:55

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