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This thread is for a mature debate about non-updated servers so please keep it civil.

I have nothing wrong with updaters but us non-updaters want the simple thing in Runescape life, an August, 10, 2007 no updating server. It does not take much to please us and a lot of us find fun in grinding and doing the same things over and over again as weird as that may sound.

These servers may divide the OSRS players but lets face it, we are already divided in what we want. We will all still be able to talk to each other in clan chats no matter what version of the game we are playing, RS3, OSRS or OSRS Classic, so in that way we will all still be together.

The non-updaters are just looking for a permanent place to call home without worrying that there will be another update that they don't like the next time they log into OSRS.

26-Jan-2018 12:52:02 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2018 13:41:37 by Bathrooms

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"I wanted to leave this post open to give people that were genuinely interested in the vanilla server the opportunity to continue discussing this subject.

The Forum Mods have been doing a great job in keeping the thread clean, but it’s quite clear that this particular post has turned from a valid discussion re: in a vanilla server, to individual flaming or taking things completely out of context and/or off topic.

I will be locking this post now.

You are welcome to continue discussing this elsewhere, but if multiple threads start getting created, or there can't be genuine discussion without the issues I have raised above occurring, the threads will be locked as this one was."

If anybody was wondering why I made another thread about a non-updating server, this is why. This quote is by Mod Ayiza on the very last page of this thread, quick find code 317-318-123-65980008.

26-Jan-2018 12:53:45 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2018 13:34:57 by Bathrooms

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I might be a supporter if the shift-click & make-all updates are installed to avoid Rsi ( Repetitive strain injury ) & also Iron player mode. I'm not a fan of the Novice mode of the game. Cheese & Shame.
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26-Jan-2018 12:58:52

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For clarity, I will repeat the same statement we made on the previous thread that was locked.

We’ve been keeping an eye on the posts regarding us releasing an untouched version of OSRS as it was originally in 2013. The truth is that it’s not something we as a team, or a company, want to do. The main reason behind this is because we’re not interested in splitting the RuneScape player base further, especially given that Old School was, and is, built on its community.

You also must keep in mind that we need to look at this from a commercial standpoint. Whilst it may seem like a small or quick job on the outside, the additional resources required to start these servers, keep them running and maintain them going forward ultimately is just not viable. Taking development and engine resources from the main game, which is very much thriving, is not a wise decision for the business to make.

Quite simply it’s not something we can, or are willing to commit to. We fully understand there are those of you that feel extremely passionate about this, and whilst we’d love to please everyone, we simply cannot accommodate these requests. If our stance changes on this at any time, we will make sure everyone is made fully aware.

You are free to continue discussing this, but please refrain from repeating the same actions which caused all other threads to be locked.

26-Jan-2018 15:37:26

Ebisumaru II
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I agree with Mod Ayiza on this one because while I strongly support OSRS and all its glory, I don't support the no update servers because it'll split the community, and when will the requests for versions of games end? I think it'd be a bit ridiculous on Jagex's end to release yet another server for OSRS that will get way less than OSRS.

26-Jan-2018 16:27:43

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Indeed the community is already split. There is no way to miss seeing that and that division will be compounded exponentially, when mobile's full release happens (because mobile gaming, and this game are worlds apart in function as well as ideology).

A static server might very well split the community further, but if so, DMM already did that (and those players were supported). Pvp already did that (and those players were supported). And mobile.. will show everyone a 'split' in the community that most won't even see comin' til it smacks 'em upside their heads (even jagex aren't going to see this until after the fact). And only a fool would believe there's ANY chance that jagex won't support the mobile players and what they want (for starters, there'll be more of them voting in the polls, ensuring all the faster, easier crap will be added to the game).

There will come a time when jagex more seriously entertains this notion (just like they did the last time) but I believe at that time it will be too late.

Jagex won't get a 'do over' this round the way they did the last time, because by the time they do "want to" there will only be 20 or so people left who would play it.

I fully support a static world. What we achieved the votes for in that initial poll. However, by the time they decide they'll do a 'referendum' for it (like for the wildy that was promised to never return, and like for old school which supposedly wasn't even possible and so wouldn't happen) I won't vote in favour of it, because.. jagex is simply too predictable.
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26-Jan-2018 17:35:15

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Angel2D4 said:
Indeed the community is already split. There is no way to miss seeing that and that division will be compounded exponentially, when mobile's full release happens (because mobile gaming, and this game are worlds apart in function as well as ideology).

And only a fool would believe there's ANY chance that jagex won't support the mobile players and what they want (for starters, there'll be more of them voting in the polls, ensuring all the faster, easier crap will be added to the game).

There will come a time when jagex more seriously entertains this notion (just like they did the last time) but I believe at that time it will be too late.

Jagex won't get a 'do over' this round the way they did the last time, because by the time they do "want to" there will only be 20 or so people left who would play it.


I see your concerns, but you have to remember a few things:

-Most regular mobile gamers probably won't have the attention span for something like Runescape. A lot of them will probably play it for a bit and then ditch it in favor of another game where they can spend loads of money to get good instantly.

-I doubt the majority of them will buy membership, at least not right away. Since you have to buy membership to vote, they probably won't sway the vote too much (at first). F2P might swell in size from mobile gamers checking the game out, then quickly die off.

-Jagex might not consider polling a lot of the things that would make OSRS into easyscape. They know that even if the mobile community becomes the majority, they too would leave eventually if the game became too easy. They'd get everything and then cancel their membership and leave when they realize the game just isn't fun anymore...because of the very changes they wanted. OSRS would eventually become just as dead as RS3 currently is, and I hope Jagex has the foresight to see this.
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26-Jan-2018 19:33:48

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You guys claim the community is split, and yet no proof of it.

@ Angel2d4, you bring up DMM, but fail to realize that DMM brings in money for Jagex, and advertisment to the game, this static server would most likely bring a small handful of people and thats it.
There is actual PK community, that people watch on twitch, youtube and even have events. What would your static server offer? A world that offers nothing but makes you and a few others happy?
You also brought up that you have no problem paying extra membership for this, again you speak for your self and not others.

Sorry but we just cant keep remaking things because a few people dont like where the game is going.

AGAIN why play a game you dont like?

26-Jan-2018 19:54:09

Angel2D4
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Zeraphiel said:
I see your concerns, but you have to remember a few things:

-Most regular mobile gamers probably won't have the attention span for something like Runescape. A lot of them will probably play it for a bit and then ditch it in favor of another game where they can spend loads of money to get good instantly.

-I doubt the majority of them will buy membership, at least not right away. Since you have to buy membership to vote, they probably won't sway the vote too much (at first). F2P might swell in size from mobile gamers checking the game out, then quickly die off.

-Jagex might not consider polling a lot of the things that would make OSRS into easyscape. They know that even if the mobile community becomes the majority, they too would leave eventually if the game became too easy. They'd get everything and then cancel their membership and leave when they realize the game just isn't fun anymore...because of the very changes they wanted. OSRS would eventually become just as dead as RS3 currently is, and I hope Jagex has the foresight to see this.


Cba to separate it out, but your points, seem to reinforce my own.

Attention span? Jagex appears to have already decided they're looking for a new demographic.. in spite of any and all obvious flaws on their part.. I don't believe they did so without knowing the difference in those demographics.

Mems? Who says they'll need to? LOL. They call 'em "in ap purchases" for a reason (if only to not call 'em MTX) and jagex couldn't possibly be looking for more f2p peeps.. they are a company that needs money to run.

Jagex 'might not' consider polling? They also "might" given that there's no real chance that they don't know the demographic they're after.

They chose the course. Itenerary already determined. Enjoy the ride. =)
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26-Jan-2018 23:25:26

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