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Whatusaytome said:
If not partyhats, what other items could be made to show off wealth status or act as stepping stones building into current rares?


anything else, with your proposed idea. of it just showing wealth, it can be anything.

if the soul purpose is to show wealth. not harm phats in anyway but adding more colours to game. it would be better idea if these items bought would be not at all partyhats.

they will still show wealth as to get them you need to buy them for the listed price. they arent tradeable to other players etc

so instead of it being party hats. it be a completely new range of style would be 10x better
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04-Aug-2019 22:32:05

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Blackwing said:
Tenebri said:
anything else, with your proposed idea. of it just showing wealth, it can be anything.

if the soul purpose is to show wealth. not harm phats in anyway but adding more colours to game. it would be better idea if these items bought would be not at all partyhats.

they will still show wealth as to get them you need to buy them for the listed price. they arent tradeable to other players etc

so instead of it being party hats. it be a completely new range of style would be 10x better

Yeah, tbh would much rather prefer what Jagex did recently in OSRS:

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Crystal_crown

One new symbol of wealth that you can recolor as you wish for a "chip" price, which sinks some gp nicely without ultimately changing the value of the symbol. Slowly adding more items like this, but making them unique, would keep them as interesting symbols of wealth. In comparison to these partyhats, even if they were distinctly different from the originals which they aren't, it'd be difficult to remember all of their values besides the cheapest and most expensive ones. Quality > quantity.


that is exactly right. and with this it wont effect phats in the slightest. which is a huge downfall for the original idea.
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05-Aug-2019 09:26:55

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Whatusaytome said:
I'm sticking with partyhats. If you cant agree to them then leave my thread. I've given my reasons which currently none of your opinions have given any reason for me to change.


what about the fact it will destroy phats? thats a pretty big reason

and we are discussing it. if you dislike it you dont have to respond to it. other people can discuss this. as its directly the idea.

you just want to destroy phats. thats a given now
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05-Aug-2019 13:41:07 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 13:41:48 by Tenebri

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Draco Burnz said:
Tenebri said:
Whatusaytome said:
I'm sticking with partyhats. If you cant agree to them then leave my thread. I've given my reasons which currently none of your opinions have given any reason for me to change.


what about the fact it will destroy phats? thats a pretty big reason

and we are discussing it. if you dislike it you dont have to respond to it. other people can discuss this. as its directly the idea.

you just want to destroy phats. thats a given now


Pretty much.


and price manipulation is against rules... and cosnidering he only wants it to be phats. fully aware it will manipulate the prices...thats really not a good idea so either having a new head slot item that can be changed to show wealth or cape etc. hes fixed on phat. to manip it
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05-Aug-2019 14:06:20 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 14:08:40 by Tenebri

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Whatusaytome said:
Suggest your own item in your own thread if that's all you are going to do here.


so whats the purpose of this thread? you didnt answer

you said we strayed from the purpose. we reequested what it was. now you wont answer it.. ?

from your first post i assumed it was to show off wealth

Whatusaytome said:
The range of prices is a great show of your wealth status,


but if thats not case then we need to know what it is.

weve stated this would change phat prices already. so if thats the purpose then its 100% no support

if its to show wealth then there is no problem to have it as a different item. this was a stepping stone idea to an actual idea that i can support. (if its a different item as i cant support it if its going to manip phat prices)
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05-Aug-2019 14:24:36 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 14:44:02 by Tenebri

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Whatusaytome said:
It's already been explained in the first three pages. You guys are simply dragging it off topic so I'm not going to repeat myself and waste even more space in my thread.


okay so if its about showing wealth

why areny you willing to change the item from a phat to something else?

all this is going to do is cause phats we have now to crash in price. why are you wanting to manip these prices

and no we were clarifying what the thread is about. thats important to know especially you said we werent on topic

but it seems we were as we were discussing this exact idea with out using phats.(showing wealth) using your suggestion to make a better one with out a negative (the crash of phats)

unless theres an underlining reason for your idea. to crash them
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05-Aug-2019 14:53:29 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 15:08:02 by Tenebri

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Blackwing said:
Tenebri said:
Whatusaytome said:
Changing the item defeats the purpose of my suggestion


whats this again? ive now miss understood what this is for?

to show wealth?

or to manip prices of phats?


if its the latter i see why you dont want to change it from phats to something else

if its to show wealth then whats the problem?

Goddamn, this is impressive. Because yeah, if your goal is to create something that shows wealth, then it doesn't need to be tied to partyhats in any way. And making dozens of different symbols in the form of recolors is just laziness, let alone disingenuous when they aren't distinctively different from the old colors.


Exactly the point

So why does it need to be phats.
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05-Aug-2019 15:23:41

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We aren't allowed 2 threads on same topic ( a range of tiered head slot items to show wealth) one will get locked (usually the lateat one) as this thrwad is about getting an item to show wealth no? If not then its price manipulating and should be locked

If its not about showing wealth then you need to change the op and we can make a seperate thread. But if your goal is a tiered item to show wealth. You shouldnt have any objectifications to this idea of no phats.

But as of right now you're wanting an item to show wealth thats tiered with buying upgrades. Thats what the discussion is. You dont have to be involved in it at all. But thats the situation we are in. Unless i get confirmation from an f mod its okay to have 2 threads on same topic
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05-Aug-2019 16:44:31 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 17:01:29 by Tenebri

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Whatusaytome said:
since nobody reads page 1.


everyone does which is why not many support this idea

and reposting old posts when people have countered them earlier is very dishonest. as its implying they havent been (pretty sure its not allowed either. seen many posts been hidden for doing this exact thing, especially when theres no context.)

but as always

there are better ways to show wealth than to destroy the prices of the phats we have now, there are also many other stepping stone items that work well before phats, other rares for instance...
so as you dont seem to read... all this will do is be negative to the game due to purposely manipulating the prices of phats, especially as youve said it has to be phats.... which just shows how it is to manip prices
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16-Sep-2019 23:43:02 - Last edited on 17-Sep-2019 00:02:42 by Tenebri

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Whatusaytome said:
Twillow said:
Tenebri ~ You've given suggestions for other ways to show off wealth as well as the impact on phats and the economy. The OP isn't receptive to those suggestions, so there is no need from here on out to continue to advocate for them (as that would be repetition of points). Likewise, there is no need for you two to continue to address balance and the economy. Regarding the steppingstone's impact, you'll need to agree to disagree. If you have something new to add to the discussion, please feel free to post.


I already said, if you want it to be a separate item instead, to make your own thread for the suggestion, as it is a different suggestion and may or may not be better than mine in terms of support.
im talking about the phats. not other items.. keep up cupcake

I am under no obligation to change my suggestion because of anything you insinuate. You accuse me of intentionally crashing partyhats and I've specifically answered that before you ever posted, and you've not once been receptive to my reasoning. So you are only out to insult my idea to force it into your own suggestion, hijacking my thread. Which I'm sure is not allowed.

if you read my post youll see that i wasnt talking about other items. im talking about price manipulation as a reason to not support

as this is what will happen if more phats enter game. (and considering previous posts and discussions this is what you are wanting)

i know you want to ignore what my posts and posting what a f mod has said which ive followed. doesnt change the fact this will change prices of the phats we have now

which is biggest concern with this, whaich you havent talked about.
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17-Sep-2019 18:23:03 - Last edited on 18-Sep-2019 17:25:56 by Tenebri

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Imbasketball said:
you yourself have admitted the prices for partyhats have been manipped to be raised.


theyve been mannipped all over the place up down etc

id rather not want something to add to that, (aka this suggestion)

Imbasketball said:
Their rarity remains fully intact


i never said it didnt

Imbasketball said:
wealth displays and endgame goals for the wealthy


we have already talked about this. and as you got butt hurt over an actual suggestion that works that doesnt manip prices to party hats we are unable to talk about it. as it hurts your idea too much so you cried and went to mods. if this idea really was about showing wealth youd be happy to go with that other suggestion. but as stated you went to mods to make us not be able to talk about it. so do not lie and say this about showing wealth. it is not.

the main point stands this is price manipulation that you are wanting. and have shown that. im against that.

Imbasketball said:
So my assumption is that with less gold in the game, more partyhats in demand by more players, and the tradable supply staying the same, is that if they are truly meant to be as expensive as they are, that initial reaction from scaring hoarders and manias into selling.. won't last. and their value remains as is with the possibility of them going up legitimately.


that made me laugh so much. its actually cute
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23-Sep-2019 22:15:20 - Last edited on 23-Sep-2019 22:16:37 by Tenebri

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Imbasketball said:
Tenebri can make his suggestion for crystal crowns elsewhere


i havent once suggested crystal crowns

Imbasketball said:
You guys are saying my suggestion is manipulative,


that is correct

Imbasketball said:
but you guys still seem to support the existing partyhat manipulation which nothing can be done against


youve said nothing can be done about it.... but supporting something that wont help and is also doing the same would be silly if we disagree with price manip.

2 wrongs dont make a right
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