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I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. This item/s would be locked to the account for the life of the account - I would pay big money for an option like this.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

It's a bad idea, because it's not stopping the hacker from getting access to your account in the first place. There are far better protection methods, which prevent access in the first place, and which won't be a detriment to your own gameplay. Because that's another issue with this: regret. E.g. you might think you want to permalock your blue partyhat to your account, but then later you'd actually want to sell it or give it to a friend... except you couldn't anymore.


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Why won't this be brought in-game as extra security for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish?

Because it's literally not needed if the preventative protection methods are implemented as they should be, since the hacker would never even gain access to your account in the first place. This suggestion does much more harm to you than it does to the hacker.


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I know we have simi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as locked bank items.

Right now, the biggest problem in Jagex's account security is how easy it can be to recover someone's account and completely bypass the authenticator. That needs to be fixed, rather than implementing stuff like this.


Agreed.

No support.

Only see ppl complaining about this in the long run.
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23-Mar-2019 12:59:10

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I dont think you read his post at all heres what he said:

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It's a bad idea, because it's not stopping the hacker from getting access to your account in the first place. There are far better protection methods, which prevent access in the first place, and which won't be a detriment to your own gameplay. Because that's another issue with this: regret. E.g. you might think you want to permalock your blue partyhat to your account, but then later you'd actually want to sell it or give it to a friend... except you couldn't anymore.
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23-Mar-2019 13:14:27

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As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or there is a clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.

The items I am thinking of are items that are precious to you some may have value others maybe not.


So in essence this would limit where ppl could use their items?
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23-Mar-2019 13:46:59

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Like anything you pay extra for, this is another one, one that is a choice, one you don't have to have, one you may not have items you want to be locked to your account.

Once it's locked to your account that is it, there is no turning back, there is no combat with this item unless you keepsake it.


Its also one that doesnt/shouldnt happen.
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Why would you lock an item if you want to use it in combat O_o

and your first point locking an item (noxious staff) because you are always going to use it - you wouldn't lock it in the first place because once you have locked it you can't use it for combat O_o

The core idea with your suggestion is that the hacker wouldn't get your high value items: for many people, that is their combat equipment, such as their noxious weapons, or their T92s if they're that rich. You didn't even realize the conflicting issues with combat at first, so a random person coming to this thread, who only reads the first post(s), would think that they could permalock their combat gear without consequence, since you haven't even edited your opening post to reflect the things we've discussed.

Seriously though: if it's true that you're half-asleep at the moment, then go sleep, come back later and rethink this completely. Because replying to bits and pieces isn't going anywhere.


Agreed.

Might be best for everyone if you just got some sleep.
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23-Mar-2019 14:44:10

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I am reading - but as I said this idea isn't for stuff you use on a daily bases for combat, I wish there was a simple solution to protect high-end combat gear, but there isn't.



You clearly aren't as ppl have said just get better security then there wouldn't be any need for this.
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Should we just ignore the posts that support the idea because others oppose it?


Just because ppl don't support it doesn't mean they don't give good advice.

Clearly the only thing that needs to be done here is better security as Blckwing has explained why this isn't needed.
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But you're not giving any advice, you're simply agreeing with another user, and then claiming that Dong isn't reading/understanding responses.

You oppose the idea, we all understand that. You don't need to keep repeating yourself.


If you think theres something wrong with my posting, you know where to take it.
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Where's the spamming? Everything I've have posted has been strictly on-topic.


Yes because my posting habits are the topic of duscssion /s

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Let's say you spend 500k on an item lock, good for 1 month. The item can't be used in PVP, but, let's say you die, that item is automatically saved on death, regardless of how many other items the player has. The item isn't tradeable and can't be lost for the entire month.


Why pay anything when you can have free acc security in form of auth + 2-step email?
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How does account security prevent your item from being lost on death?.


If you think you can die somewhere, why even go there?

Plus with the new recovery system, you can pay to get your items back.

Thus you pretty much cant lose anything.
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Dong U Dead said:

This isn't about security. This is an option to lock items to your account, it's just like having A safe deposit box irl bank. It's extra coverage for those special items.



Says this isnt about security when in OP she said it is: Dong U Dead said:


Why won't this be brought in-game as extra security for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish?


So I ask, is this about security or isn't it?

From these 2 posts its kind of confusing.
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Tophurious said:
we shouldn't have to pay extra for "security" and it's a tremendous waste of money regardless. this "protection" will only end up hurting people's banks if they ever need to get rid of an item. it would only end up being a hassle for everyone involved when a stupid player locks an item and ends up needing to sell it.

considering that combat items are excluded from this idea despite being some of the most expensive items in the game then perhaps you owe us some examples which items you'd like to see included? i understand if it's too difficult to think of something as not every idea can be a good one.


Agreed.

None of this makes sense IMO.
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Tenebri said:
Dong U Dead said:
, I lost 250 million


when i quit i lost my investment due to hack. which i still to this day have no idea how it happened. but was roughly 1.7b in santahats. as the email used was only for runescape. i hadnt logged in runescape or that email for months.

but yeah your suggestion would have dont nothing for it. as they only took the santas. which i only found out about when i came back

so yes your suggestion helps nothing with items you want to keep. as its literally just stuff that now holds 0 gp value as you are never going to sell them again anyway..


Agreed.

I see no reason to have to pay for something most companies give for free.
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Dong U Dead said:
@Tenebri -Not sure what you are on about. If you put your Santa hats into a safe deposit box there may have been a chance that your items would have been safe.

If you buy the lock for 12 months and you stay away for 2 years and come back with all items missing - the items are only protected for the amount of time you have them locked.


It seems like you're not reading what ppl are saying.

They don't want this/these boxes to keep items safe as once you put something in there you cant take it out later if you want to trade the item on ge or to a friend.

I don't see how you're not understand this simple concept?:@
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^In the OP you said cb gear cant be put into them:

Dong U Dead said:


- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.


Also while there are a fair amount of ppl who don't want to sell their rares, what if they later change their minds?

Is there an unlock option for this?

Also what if I do buy a 3 month option and within 2 months want to sell it?
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Dong U Dead said:

I never said you can't put protection on Combat Gear, I said it wouldn't work.


Can you please explain the difference?

Why wouldn't it work?

Whats stopping it from working?

If anyone can show a post of OP explaining why it wouldn't work, ill be very pleased.
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Tenebri said:
Dong U Dead said:
This is foolproof and to be able to have extra protection can only be good.


as stated many times

whats the point of owning 4000000000b gp if you cant even use it. you theoretically have 0 gp if its all in the chest. and thats with out a hacker their.

and there are far more outcomes of needing gp. (stated 2 previously) than being hacked.

if being hacked was so common sure id support. but its not. you are just fucking yourself over with this instead.

its great you would do it in a heart beat but a lot of people make mistakes


Exactly.
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Southeaster said:
I kind of get the reasoning behind this idea, that if you get cleaned out by a hacker, you will still have the items in your 'Deposit Box'.

But you can't withdraw the stuff out of your Deposit Box until the lock duration is up. So you are still penniless. You still don't have any wealth in your bank to work with.

There is a game I used to play called MapleStory that let you lock items. Surprise, surprise, nobody used it to lock items of wealth. They only used it on weapons or armour.

And you can't apply a lock to weapons in Runescape the same way it is done in MapleStory, because in MapleStory you do not lose your items on death, whereas in Runescape you do.

If people are allowed to lock combat items in Runescape, they'd abuse it by going into Wildy without risking the item. Unless you make it lost upon death in wild, in which case... the hacker will just go into the wildy with the item.

So your idea isn't feasible under any circumstances.


Pretty much.
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Tenebri said:
seems everyones concern is the same. yet you just say this is trolling?


Tenebri said:
a flaw is you dont have access to your own items / gp


Tenebri said:
whats the point of owning 4000000000b gp if you cant even use it. you theoretically have 0 gp if its all in the chest. and thats with out a hacker there.


Tophurious said:
but it hurts the user more than any account hijacker


Southeaster said:
The hacker can't use your wealth, but neither can yourself!


Pretty much.
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Dong U Dead said:


You do know vacations aren't always a year+ long right? So it seems weird how you try to pull that out of thin air.

Theres ppl who go on 1, 2, or 3 week vacations so once they got back their items would still be locked as the shortest time you gave is 3 months
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