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Reminiscon
Oct Member 2016

Reminiscon

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Slapping a higher req like 1000 or whatever doesn't fix the problem.

Make it a Meritocracy where we can vote, but our votes get weighted based on total level.

If you have 2277/2277 total, that is 100% and worth 1 full vote.

Someone with only 1138 total only gets 50%, which is worth 0.5 of a vote.

Someone with 2000 total gets 88%, which is worth 0.88 of a vote.
Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

19-Jul-2019 19:24:24

Angel2D4
Jun Member 2019

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Reminiscon said:
Slapping a higher req like 1000 or whatever doesn't fix the problem.

Make it a Meritocracy where we can vote, but our votes get weighted based on total level.

If you have 2277/2277 total, that is 100% and worth 1 full vote.

Someone with only 1138 total only gets 50%, which is worth 0.5 of a vote.

Someone with 2000 total gets 88%, which is worth 0.88 of a vote.


So your idea is that those with more free time on their hands should have more say.. BAD idea, if you want to keep the player base you currently have.. and attract new players.. ever.

Modern day gamers have lives outside of the games they play.. they have school.. jobs.. families..

Your idea would work perfectly for a game that has nothing more than those at the end of the game.. not so good for ANY other game.

I don't believe they have the game to please only the end game players.. and I don't believe they ever will.

edit for spelling error
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19-Jul-2019 19:33:53 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2019 19:34:37 by Angel2D4

Reminiscon
Oct Member 2016

Reminiscon

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Angel2D4 said:
Reminiscon said:
Slapping a higher req like 1000 or whatever doesn't fix the problem.

Make it a Meritocracy where we can vote, but our votes get weighted based on total level.

If you have 2277/2277 total, that is 100% and worth 1 full vote.

Someone with only 1138 total only gets 50%, which is worth 0.5 of a vote.

Someone with 2000 total gets 88%, which is worth 0.88 of a vote.


So your idea is that those with more free time on their hands should have more say.. BAD idea, if you want to keep the player base you currently have.. and attract new players.. ever.

Modern day gamers have lives outside of the games they play.. they have school.. jobs.. families..

Your idea would work perfectly for a game that has nothing more than those at the end of the game.. not so good for ANY other game.

I don't believe they have the game to please only the end game players.. and I don't believe they ever will.

edit for spelling error



First off, those who have been here for longer will have higher stats regardless of how much free time they have. Someone who started 6 years ago will have higher stats than someone who started 6 months ago in the vast majority of comparisons.

Second off, those who actually invest more time into the game know more about the game, which means they are more likely to make decisions for the long term health of the game. This is because they don't want a game they invested so much time in to deteriorate. You give the same weighting to some idiot who stepped off RS3 and you're just killing the game.

Third off, nobody is forced to play more to get more weighting. If the game isn't high on your priorities, then your vote weight would reflect that. Accept the fact that even a noob with 1200 total gets over half the say of a maxed player. It's better than being barred completely.

Fourth off, they still decide the poll questions. They can poll mid level content.
Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

19-Jul-2019 23:57:10 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2019 23:57:21 by Reminiscon

Reminiscon
Oct Member 2016

Reminiscon

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Angel2D4 said:
Reminiscon said:
Slapping a higher req like 1000 or whatever doesn't fix the problem.

Make it a Meritocracy where we can vote, but our votes get weighted based on total level.

If you have 2277/2277 total, that is 100% and worth 1 full vote.

Someone with only 1138 total only gets 50%, which is worth 0.5 of a vote.

Someone with 2000 total gets 88%, which is worth 0.88 of a vote.


So your idea is that those with more free time on their hands should have more say.. BAD idea, if you want to keep the player base you currently have.. and attract new players.. ever.

Modern day gamers have lives outside of the games they play.. they have school.. jobs.. families..

Your idea would work perfectly for a game that has nothing more than those at the end of the game.. not so good for ANY other game.

I don't believe they have the game to please only the end game players.. and I don't believe they ever will.

edit for spelling error


Lastly, you criticize the proposed system of Meritocracy for not being perfect. It isn't a perfect system as no such thing exists.

Is it better than blind Democracy where Timmy with 300 total (who never even touched RuneScape back in say 2006) has the same say as Mike with 2277 total and years upon years of experience? Hell yes it's an improvement.

The fact is that no veteran of Old School wants Mobile trash/degenerates and RS3 degenerates coming in and transforming the game over time. Old School's values are meant to be fixed values or else it defeats the entire point of the server.
Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

19-Jul-2019 23:59:37 - Last edited on 20-Jul-2019 00:00:40 by Reminiscon

Angel2D4
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Reminiscon said:

The fact is that no veteran of Old School wants Mobile trash/degenerates and RS3 degenerates coming in and transforming the game over time. Old School's values are meant to be fixed values or else it defeats the entire point of the server.


First, I don't believe that you (or anybody else) can speak to what ALL "veterans" want or don't want.

What you are calling "degenerates" (be that from Mobile or RS3) could just as easily be TRUE "veterans" of RuneScape. Players who HAVE been around for MORE time than even you or I have. Are they "degenerates" and NOT "veterans" because they don't agree with your pov on things?

And "Old School's values"? You're kidding, right? You must be, because the veteran's of Runescape (that I KNOW) also KNOW that the "values", the FOUNDATION of this old game has changed over the years.

What YOU believe to be "the values" are likely NOT what the CURRENT "values" actually are.

The purpose of the game.. the intent of the company.. is to make money for the owners. That's a given that any adult can see. If this company isn't making enough money, they WILL change things in an attempt to do so.. and that includes seeking more players.. be that players that left long ago.. or players that want different things than the vets want.

Let the closing of Classic be a lesson.. the lesson? Jagex isn't aiming to please the "veterans" of RuneScape any longer.. and they haven't, for a very long time.

And finally, the "transformation" you are so concerned about? Yeah, old school has already been transformed.. more than once.. and you not being happy with that "transformation" isn't likely to matter one iota to jagex, because they have a reasonable player count and keep looking to increase it.

Old school RuneScape.. is gone.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

20-Jul-2019 19:44:10

w331

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Reminiscon said:
The fact someone fresh off RS3 has the same say as someone who has been on OSRS for 6 years is ridiculous at this point.

The fact someone like you who thinks they have more say than others is just retarded lmfao

20-Jul-2019 20:14:19

Kanodigisdi
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Requirements are way to high, no representation from.the newer community, also just seems like overkill. But seriously the bot dib? Max accounts only? Thats rediculous. Also having a raid count affect it at all would be counterintuitive bcuz not everybody wants to raid or even likes the idea of raiding. Idk not a good idea imo. No support. Thought is reality, reality is illusion.

22-Jul-2019 04:51:46

Kanodigisdi
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Kanodigisdi

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Id like to add the raiding isnt the only osrs content that matters, and in itself isnt old school content but was patched in after the fact. So only supporting things that benefit raiding doesnt codify you as an old school veteran or elite. Ive played for 16 years on different accounts and have mever supported the agenda of any kind of pure or raider. Its a game, and game thats main selling point is that you set your own goals and do what you want to do. Raiders and pures get locked in and end-all-be-all mindset that isnt healthy or helpful. Its sad really. Thought is reality, reality is illusion.

22-Jul-2019 04:57:21

Cosmic Star
Apr Gold Premier Club Member 2011

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I do agree that the poll system needs reworked. How I'm not sure. But if I'm not mistaken don't no voters currently have x3 the voting power than a yes voter? When it should be the majority rules. Not to mention I don't know if this is a true fact but from things I've seen over the years I feel it's safe to say people leaning to voting no on major updates are more often to use alts to vote in their favor. Runescape herb farmer an farming fanatic ^_^
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22-Jul-2019 05:04:15

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