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16-Aug-2019 23:02:44

Tenebri

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Tuffty said:
@Tenebri

Oh dear. Part of your reply was not nice and had to be removed.

Remember flaming isn't nice.

Post removed.


i dont even remember what i said :/ :S

either way 100% no support

Jokku23 said:
It's a shame that some people are calling me either troll or selfish for trying to share the fun with everyone in the community.


but will destroy a lot of peoples effort in the mean time? and not much fun in having a paper hats etc. the happiness comes from finally owning a super rare item. doing this will make it like osrs. where no one cares if you have phat.
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17-Aug-2019 21:27:39 - Last edited on 17-Aug-2019 21:29:17 by Tenebri

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Jokku23 said:
It will not destroy the effort or achievement, it will only destroy their ability to brag with their achievement.


of course it will people would have spent hundreds of hours to get on these hats. and now boom can be won asap? Jokku23 said:
Happiness comes only because other people don't have it? Such a boastful attitude. That's not in line with Christmas spirit.


thats not what i said in the slightest no point even correcting to you as you can just read the quote.

very dishonest twisting what people say

Jokku23 said:
It's only the people who see them as bragging tools who stop caring.


thats a small % of people. and you are wrong. everyone who owns one will be pissed off. i personally never wore mine when i had one. when i get mine back (after hours of grinding) i wont be wearing it either.

your whole argument comes entirely from assumptions. not one thing have you said is even remotely based on truth

the initial release of phats was back then just a bit of fun sure. but thats now changed slowly overtime. making a huge u turn on this will be the 2nd worse thing jagex will do (if they do it) next to eoc. with the amount of people they will piss off. and you dont seem to care about that. you just want a colourful hat the easy lazy way
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18-Aug-2019 08:53:07 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2019 08:57:42 by Tenebri

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Jokku23 said:
It won't. They still achieved it in the hard way. This fact stays unchanged.



you fail to understand what i mean and its tiring. so you think its fine to release something in game to be able to get asap. which now takes hundred of hours of dedication?

Jokku23 said:
See that question mark over there? I was not twisting your words but asking if that's what you meant. Yeah feel free to read the quote.


see me saying thats not true answering the question

te-dar conversations

Jokku23 said:
Yet there are partyhat owners who have supported this thread. Many people care about phats for other reasons than bragging and investing. You are entitled to your opinion but you can only speak for yourself.


awesome so what? means nothing to if it should happen or not ad populum fallacy.

you made a claim i said it was false used me to show it. you going "but but but but this person likes the idea" doesnt change anything ive said. it just means that person likes the idea....
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18-Aug-2019 18:10:31 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2019 18:23:52 by Tenebri

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Jokku23 said:

Do I think it's fine to release partyhats again? Yes.

You fail to understand that the achievement is not ruined, only the ability to brag with it.


it is 100% ruined. they didnt need to do anything. just needed to wait till this update the phats would also crash a hell of a lot. even if none are the same colours we have now.

again ruining the time and effort of people making bills to get them
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19-Aug-2019 18:33:21 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2019 18:35:54 by Tenebri

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Kalea Sprite said:
Tenebri said:
Jokku23 said:

Do I think it's fine to release partyhats again? Yes.

You fail to understand that the achievement is not ruined, only the ability to brag with it.


it is 100% ruined. they didnt need to do anything. just needed to wait till this update the phats would also crash a hell of a lot. even if none are the same colours we have now.

again ruining the time and effort of people making bills to get them

You seem to misunderstand the situation.

The current Partyhat market is already ruined by the flip/merch/investors as some artificially pump or dump the prices in order to maximize the wealth they leech from everyone else.

By releasing the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, the corruption and abuse associated with flip/merch/investing will be nerfed and this will correct the markets and increase the cheerfulness all throughout the community.

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!!! :D


this just made me chuckle.

for one you missed the whole reasoning to what im saying. sure phats have been maniped awesome. im not talking about prices (to an extent) im talking about effort for players getting these items. that will be ruined for the players that have spent however many hours getting them thousands of them most likely
which will ruin the achievement of obtaining one. to obtain such wealth takes dedication and effort and persistence. so for the people to have an item to show that. will be ruined with this.
if this was to happen i wouldnt bother aiming to get a phat as the joy of owning such an iconic prestige item would be meaningless. and that what this would do. take something iconic and destroy it to be worthless.
again look at phats in osrs...
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22-Aug-2019 21:58:27

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And again youve taken what ive said and thrown it away and added your own meaning

What ive said is earning 8billion gp to own a phat is an achievement. Whats seperate is yes they have been manipped by a small community. That doesnt take away the achievement of others earning billions to own one

And thats pretty much why you want this you cant or dont want to achieve that feat. So instead want the easy way out and put on th. To manip the prices to be lower.

See how that works cupcake. They are 2 seperate things the manips and achievement of owning one

Lets look at when this did happen with spirit shields when sof first came out. Remember how it ruined them? Even though they were lucky varient. Yet you want to do this with the more prestigious of items in the game??? And you think its a good idea damn


And cute confirmation bias fallacy at its finest. ♡
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23-Aug-2019 13:36:40 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2019 14:01:28 by Tenebri

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Jokku23 said:
To obtain such wealth will still take dedication and effort and persistence. This part stays unchanged. The part that changes is "have an item to show that". See the difference. Achievement not ruined. Bragging rights ruined.


apart from the people who used these items to show this.

as these items wont show wealth anymore due to the manipped priced of them crashing (by this change)

they will loose this gp

Kalea Sprite said:
Cupcake? lol I suppose that's better than meadow muffins


indeed it is. by a fair amount

Kalea Sprite said:
Anyway, your allegation of "confirmation bias fallacy" actually applies to your comments.


erm no it doesnt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Kalea Sprite said:
The fact is that the Christmas Crackers were shared with the entire community, it brought people together to snap them and celebrate the holidays partying with the Partyhats.


indeed it did. in 2001. 18 years have gone past since then. and things have changed directly with these items. if it was 6 months after the original release id be skeptical of doing it. but i wouldnt be against it.
however 18 years and the changes that have happened its not a good idea to do this. (points ive already said)
Kalea Sprite said:
If however, you'd like to hold on to your view that Partyhats are some kind of "achievement" then you've again revealed your own "confirmation bias fallacy" again because there isn't enough Partyhats.

indeed that is what creates the achievement. a rare limited item and owning one is an achievement. but thats not confirmation bias unfortunately

so thank you for that
Kalea Sprite said:
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!


only if you wish to destroy an item and people who have them
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25-Aug-2019 18:47:17 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2019 18:54:03 by Tenebri

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