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Ferocire

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Mod Ronan said:


In PvP, we expect the elder maul to introduce a bit more variety. Currently, there are very few weapons to choose from which are viable in PvP.


Melee isn't the only one with this issue. In fact, melee actually have multiple choices that is viable..even the gmaul sees use at higher levels. So is it variety you want..or just more melee content? Considering that the dragon sword and maul will make
5
melee weapons (and this is excluding weapon buffs) within a year's time span...the answer to that is pretty damn clear to me.

Mod Ronan said:
The elder wand provides the best magic attack bonus in the game. Combined with its other bonuses and effects, the weapon would be very useful for training magic using ice burst or ice barrage.


You guys give melee (and range) PvP weapons, but when it comes to magic..."Here, have this to go train with guys."

Mod Ronan said:
The wand would also be a useful tool for PKers looking to land teleblocks, as they're keen to get magic accuracy wherever they can.


Except that magic accuracy is effected by diminishing returns much more than melee or range attack bonuses as the skill is already so accurate anyway. +3 accuracy over tox sotd will barely be noticeable if at all. Let's compare the difference assuming +90 mage attack and +93 vs a mage def roll of 19,000:

121 x ( 90 + 64)=18,634
121 x (93 +64)=18,997

DEF>ATK

18,634 / 38,002=49%
18,997/38,002=49%

It's not even noticeable ffs.

The elder maul is specifically for PvP, the ballista was specifically for PvP. How about doing the same for mage? It won't take much. A low hitting (max no higher than 32-35) weapon that allows us to use venge would be enough.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

16-Aug-2016 18:07:05 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2016 18:25:04 by Ferocire

Ferocire

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Etrengereid said:
. Why did you nerf the elder wand? Sure the melee stats made no sense but removing it dmg bon?


Just now noticed they butchered it like that. Jagex seems to be trying to play a game with us. They read about powercreep complaints, then childishly display sarcasm by butchering the stats completely. "But you said you wanted it weaker guyz! So weaker it is. :v)"

If I'm right about this, it is extremely unprofessional.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

16-Aug-2016 19:39:35 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2016 19:40:29 by Ferocire

Ferocire

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They added (or clarified) a 70def requirement to the prayers so I don't think it'd be a issue. Idc why augury and rigour was switched in place though, since rigour boosts damage, it would make sense for it to have the higher requirement.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

16-Aug-2016 19:53:56 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2016 20:03:49 by Ferocire

Ferocire

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Based on results I've seen on the tournament worlds, the wand is really weak. The accuracy difference is not noticeable (as I suspected would be the case), it' will not be able to get kills as SoTd w/ z flames can and the autocast is not enough to make up for the 10% lower damage.

The only real use I see for it is bursting/barraging. Either give it some perk or lower its accuracy (to around 17) and give it a built in spell to allow mages to use venge.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

18-Aug-2016 20:02:58 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2016 20:05:34 by Ferocire

Ferocire

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Joy said:
This neon light pink lazy garbage.

Whoever the staff member was in the HQ room who suggested turning the Obby Maul into a pink recolour, with nerfed chaotic stats... you are a moron.



People still do not realize that the bright pink recolored items are placeholder graphics? Just smh..

Directly from the beta thread, clear as day:

Mod Ronan said:

As these weapons are prototype versions, they are currently using placeholder graphics.


The maul is fine. For a melee weapon, it's actually reasonably accurate and will be much more accurate for actual pking, unless you expect all of your opponents to have 99def while being in maxed gear...

118 x (144 + 64)=24,554
113 x (190 + 64)=28,702

Def>Atk

Atk / [2*(Def+1)]

24,554/57,406=42%

The maul has roughly a 42% chance to hit in a fight between two piety pkers using typical gear setups. Against a zerker, it's hit chance would be around 63%.

What more do you want?
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

22-Aug-2016 18:17:55 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2016 18:39:06 by Ferocire

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Heretic Hero said:

You make statements about dragon claws being too overpowered an item to be released and have refused to even entertain the idea of doing so, but you sit here basically almost recreating nex, but in a raid dungeon...


Stronger armor is much more balanced than weapons with click to win buttons like claws. The fact that every d claw suggestion ever made on every source has gotten shot down every time is enough reason for them to not even entertain the idea of polling them.

The elder armors will obviously be used for raids as the bosses are meant to be the strongest that osrs offers. Look at pre eoc, did the next armors really have a strong impact on prices of gear like Bandos? From what I remember, no as things like bandos still had a significant place in the game.

Due to elder's repair costs and expense, things like bandos will maintain plenty of demand.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

23-Aug-2016 18:56:45 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2016 19:01:07 by Ferocire

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