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But with keys, they will get all of my drop such as the 20 green dragon hides and bones I am carrying. Suddenly my 50 k risk becomes 100k+ risk because of bones and hides. This will hit pvm players trying to kill greens for money or Slayer. "

Thank you for clarifying I think completely understand your point now. I think that you're saying that a pker will see you in wilderness and not both to attack you since they will not gain much profit from your dragon bones and you're not really wearing any expensive gear. They will not be able to loot all of your bones with the limited inventory space, therefore not bother to attack you.

Well, my response is what if the looter has a looting bag just like you? This would mean that he would try to kill you since he can store all of your loot. But of course, not every pker has a looting bag. So you're saying that if every pker would have access to keys, then this would be a problem for your since they will be able to acquire all of your dragon bones and want to kill you. But you have to remember, just like not every pker will have a looting bag that comes across you, not everyone pker will have access to loot keys, since it is a scroll that you have to purchase to be able to use. It would probably be even harder to obtain than loot bags which is 1/30 drop from lvl 6 rats in varrock wildly.

If people don't want a lot of pkers running around with loot keys, then I would love for them to have a minimum bh kills requirement: 250 or 500. Although this would drop the prices of the scroll used to unlock the loot keys, and reduce pvmers profits

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Lol i would have loved this idea if I were still an obby mauler. If obby maulers had the ability to reduce their range level every once in a while when they go ranged based, they would be by far the most overpowered build.

If this was released then many people wouldn't have multiple pking accounts as they do now, they would just have one that they can switch around every once in a while. This would result in less account with members and would hurt Jagex's profits.

This would also mean that pures would pk with whip, which is pretty cool imo.

13-Nov-2017 23:54:47

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1. PvP armors, please clarify that the prices paid to unlock them is not how much the armors will be worth. It seems a lot of players are concerned about this.

2. Minus Xp Lamps? Interesting, but I do not see these passing or being worth 5M.

3. Sinister amulet, though I like the fact this has been brought back, however with ancient maces still being abused this would only lead to more success of just hunting people with +1s. Instead of pking.

Ever since the dragon spear patch, Maces still have caused trouble for everyone. The goal for any larger clan to hunt a small team is to simply mace one person with a high +1. This really causes a bigger problem due to deep multi-action. It's a big factor why multi Pking is currently dead.

4. i like the port teleport in PoH, definitely something to look forward to in terms of massing, and making those spots more active, especially the long forgotten 50 ports!
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14-Nov-2017 00:25:32

Beernd
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So Statius's hammer would be dead content inmediatly, since neitie gives same str and prayer. As will be the case with zuriel and mori. give them all a bit of a damage boosts, since the minimal acuracy boost would be worth the 1,5mish risk (for an entire set) you guys are talking about.

Other then that, i really like the key thingy. great work on that. but i do think the minus xp lamps should get some more love for zerkers and other account builds that would like a little more xp gone from there account than just 500, dont you think? I understand that you guys are holding back on being able to remove a lot of xp, for obvious reason, but there has to be something that can be done, like maybe choose between a set amount (for ppl with like 4 def) or a percentage of ur current xp (maybe with a cap on it).

the amulet of peril, looks pretty dope, but might be a little bit overpowered like this, how about 80-85% of the current boost?

and last but not least, the sinister amulet, 100 hits... really?. how about 1000 and how about leaving ur glory in tact? i understand you guys are looking for a glory sink, but this seems a bit cheap imo.

nonetheless i really like most of this update and thank you all for your efforts

14-Nov-2017 01:07:57

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Good questions.

I like the Amulet of Peril, and the premise for justifying its existence is most excellent. The Sinister Amulet is also a really nice addition because it creates a much needed item sink for Amulet of Glory as well as offering a unique benefit that doesn't really worsen power creep in any way.

PVP Armors really don't seem necessary to me though, I prefer the items unique to OSRS. Maybe instead of offering pvp armors for each of the combat styles, you could come up with a brand new pvp armor that is more like a buffed version of Void? (An all around good armor for any style).
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Cnconrad said:

I disagree with the loot keys and will be voting them down.



Can you please knock it off with this garbage. I'm tired of seeing no votes from people who are only interested in protecting clues/power ammies because of their lack of pvp knowledge or lack of any skill whatsoever when it comes to entering the wilderness. Do you understand that things need to be coded? how do you tell a machine "skilled players only". What could you possibly do to let the game interpret "skilled player". Based on how many kills they have possibly? that's flawed, and so is basically anything else you could try to do. Not to mention not worth the coding effort here at all and I don't see that being something Jagex would do anyway.

Stop shedding your crocodile tears and begging for sympathy just because you don't pk. You have your content in PVM and we don't ask Jagex to nerf your bosses just because we don't like killing them. Stop asking that they nerf our wilderness just because you can't logout before you lose your 2k power ammy.

The solution to ALL pvmers who have a problem with pkers is quite simple:
Don't go into the wilderness with your clue and 0 food whatsoever and expect to be okay.
I don't understand why this is such a big issue with you people. You gear up for bosses/pvm accordingly. Why don't you gear up for the wilderness accordingly? because you lose items? it's not even that big of a deal.

1: Black d hide top/chaps.
2: Glory.
3: Literally 2 brews, and a restore.
4: If you absolutely want to go that extra mile, some monkfish and an antipoison.

With this setup, you can literally just run and hover over glory teleport or logout button making it extremely hard for someone to kill you. If you do get hit, d hides are so OP with a brew and some monkfish you'll make them splash enough for you to get a logout.

If you got killed it's because you WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. 100% of the time, no excuses.

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Cnconrad
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Hammockmusic said:
Cnconrad said:

I disagree with the loot keys and will be voting them down.



Can you please knock it off with this garbage. I'm tired of seeing no votes from people who are only interested in protecting clues/power ammies because of their lack of pvp knowledge or lack of any skill whatsoever when it comes to entering the wilderness. Do you understand that things need to be coded? how do you tell a machine "skilled players only". What could you possibly do to let the game interpret "skilled player". Based on how many kills they have possibly? that's flawed, and so is basically anything else you could try to do. Not to mention not worth the coding effort here at all and I don't see that being something Jagex would do anyway.

Stop shedding your crocodile tears and begging for sympathy just because you don't pk. You have your content in PVM and we don't ask Jagex to nerf your bosses just because we don't like killing them. Stop asking that they nerf our wilderness just because you can't logout before you lose your 2k power ammy.

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Can you please knock off the crying to make PKing easier. I actually pked back in 07. We didn't have any of the crutches you rely on.

Now That I am not a child any more PKing doesn't hold the same alure. But even back in 07 I didn't enjoy grieving Skillers for a few hides.

Perhaps you should hang out in a pvp world and stop with all the salt. If anything reading your triggered rant will ensure the vote will fail. When spoiled children such as yourself represent the pvp community it's little wonder why people vote against it.

14-Nov-2017 03:12:44

HolySkillet
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hi guys holyskillet here, please please please vote yes for negative xp lamps, heres why, i am so close to maxing my skiller,few levels left to go, and i recently accidently got 2 str, these lamps max out at 500xp per account, its not going to ruin the game or harm anything, it benefits the people who work on these account builds and out so much effort into them, i understand that people arnt to flash on the rev caves and some of the updates but if we get a a strong vote for the negative xp lamps they might bring them into game through a different way,

thankyou so much guys and please help a brother out <3

p.s i have voted yes to the pvm/pvp updates even tho it doesnt effect me , but i respect the people that enjoy it, please take consideration to the people who enjoy the game differently but are a minority to the community thankyou i appreciate it and im sure many do aswell :)
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