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Nex is Life
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Or in the game at all for that matter.

So by now most people have heard the terrible new plan to award free boss kills on treasure hunter.

Call me old-fashioned but I have a pretty simple concept of how boss kills and loot should be awarded. You fight the boss. You don't throw an instakill at the boss, you fight it.
These darts devalue the existence of every boss they work on as well as the efforts of people who fight them. If you want to award their loot for free may as well just delete the boss.

Here are 8 reasons why DTDs should not be on Treasure Hunter.

1. Telos. This boss has, or is supposed to have, a punishing high-risk high-reward mechanic called streaking. The power of DTDs and life refreshers on Telos streaks has been noted by Jagex so I won't go too much into this. However, no changes have been made yet.

2. Every other boss they work on. If they aren't being thrown at Telos they will be thrown at the next most profitable bosses they can be: Nex and KK. Every September when 240k DTDs are added the prices of their items are nuked and they haven't really recovered from the first time this happened. This punishes players who actually kill these bosses for no good reason. That's not how Nex armour and Drygores are supposed to be rewarded.

3. Boss pets. Intended as a symbol of something you've earned these should not drop from darts. Skilling pets don't drop from XP lamps, proteans and aren't affects by bonus exp so a precedent exists for this.

4. There are better things to put on TH without devaluing PvM. A single kill at Nex - the 2nd best use of darts after saving Telos streaks - is worth ~1.7m (this number is outdated but not that far off). May as well just put 2m coins instead of ruining PvM.

5. Doesn't matter how rare they are, one is too many. Jagex are using how "rare" they will be as a reason to put them on. It isn't and by scale of players quite a lot will enter the game anyway even as purple prizes.
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06-Feb-2019 08:14:38 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 08:39:36 by Nex is Life

Nex is Life
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6. DTDs already have several sources. No that isn't a reason to justify another, that is a reason to tone down those sources. Merchant at least has limited stock and costs 5m, it shouldn't exist and most of the stock is OP but at least there is a limit and cost here.
Raffle needs to be looked at and nuked - 240,000 Darts every September for free jfc.

7. TH already sells life refreshes with BXP which make PvM stupidly easier and reduce the risk it is supposed to have. Doesn't also need free boss kills whch make as much sense as instaquest darts you throw at the quest start point instead of doing the quest.

8. The most important for last. RuneScape is a goal based game. Giving away everything for free makes people run out of things to do and quit.


Feel free to add more.
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06-Feb-2019 08:15:32 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2019 08:16:55 by Nex is Life

Blackwing
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You made quite extensive points already, so I don't have anything to add that I can remember at least, but you should remove the 4th point: whether you add the darts or another gp prize to TH, they both contribute to ruining the game, just on different ways (darts devalue boss drops while gp prizes fuel inflation).

Other than that, support for removing the darts altogether from the game; they're too overpowered for the balance of the game.
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06-Feb-2019 08:27:23

Nex is Life
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Blackwing said:
You made quite extensive points already, so I don't have anything to add that I can remember at least, but you should remove the 4th point: whether you add the darts or another gp prize to TH, they both contribute to ruining the game, just on different ways (darts devalue boss drops while gp prizes fuel inflation).

Other than that, support for removing the darts altogether from the game; they're too overpowered for the balance of the game.
Hmm I do agree, but I do not believe coins represent an achievement in the way that exp or boss kills do so I would rather see coins. That said Jagex can sell coins with tradable membership (bonds) already without directly adding them and causing inflation.

I am making a case against darts rather than TH as a whole so it's not a battle I want to fight. I do however want to express that 1 dart for 1 person isn't worth much anyway, but the scale of tens of thousands of players with a couple of darts is extremely damaging to the integrity of the game and to people who want to legitimately PvM.
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06-Feb-2019 08:48:34

yggdrsil
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no support the fact they remove 5m for kc less kill or run saver for telos (also makes it so skillers can beat bosses without the long task of recoiling them and praying to hit 1 dmg so not to get combat xp) is fair it is not as op as the movran enhancers on hcim which literally give them a free extra life if something happens while doing a movran boss
also the chance at getting them on this current th event is lower odds than the raffle cause the shadow gems are which has slight chance at getting them did not appear within 50+ keys gotten via daily challenges.

07-Feb-2019 06:53:31

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