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Miu

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Why were wishing well seeds and the plant removed entirely instead of being reworked in some way?

Seems like every month we get some unique piece of content being removed these days. Mobilising Armies, Onyx from gem rocks, Bounty Hunter, Wishing well seeds, etc.

I can understand why some of these things were removed but removing an entire plant instead of making some sort of attempt to rework it seems very lazy.
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11-Apr-2019 12:27:30

yggdrsil
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moblising armies was dead other than thaler minigame spotlight (still angry about that cause it was fun back in the day), onyx from gem rocks the rate was devaluing onyx to alch value with few 1,000 entering the game from it a day (honestly replacing it with onyx dust would make sense as replacement), bounty hunter no one really did it other than boosting it for profit or rev pets, wishing well seeds were pretty much gambling the plant and guessing making all shops ge value would not help its case either/would take to much time to code.

11-Apr-2019 13:30:21 - Last edited on 11-Apr-2019 13:32:08 by yggdrsil

Blackwing
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yggdrsil said:
wishing well seeds were pretty much gambling the plant and guessing making all shops ge value would not help its case either/would take to much time to code.

"Would take too much time to code" isn't really a good reason if there are several options or if something is truly needed (like bank rework). With the wishing well seeds, Jagex could've replaced its effect with something else, e.g. instead of it injecting new items to the game, the fruit would give some buff instead (just throwing a quick example). Now it just seemed like Jagex couldn't be arsed and just decided to be lazy and remove.
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11-Apr-2019 13:43:30

ELITE STACK
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yggdrsil said:
moblising armies was dead other than thaler minigame spotlight (still angry about that cause it was fun back in the day), onyx from gem rocks the rate was devaluing onyx to alch value with few 1,000 entering the game from it a day (honestly replacing it with onyx dust would make sense as replacement), bounty hunter no one really did it other than boosting it for profit or rev pets, wishing well seeds were pretty much gambling the plant and guessing making all shops ge value would not help its case either/would take to much time to code.



Wwb seeds were still useful for pof. It was a cheap way to grow chins. Seed prices crashed when Pof was added. The blame should go to Magic beans obtainable from pof. The bushes were already disabled so it didn't ruin the economy.
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11-Apr-2019 15:31:50 - Last edited on 11-Apr-2019 15:35:32 by ELITE STACK

ijj1
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easier to remove it than spend time and revive


they could just re-develop the development team hahaha

pvm/pvp in rs3 is too easy, pvm in osrs is stupidly overpowered considering the swap ratio
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11-Apr-2019 20:37:49

Rikornak
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ELITE STACK said:



Wwb seeds were still useful for pof. It was a cheap way to grow chins. Seed prices crashed when Pof was added. The blame should go to Magic beans obtainable from pof. The bushes were already disabled so it didn't ruin the economy.


In case of calquat this isn't the full truth:

The problem with wishing well seeds basically was that they cause a feedback loop with specific items on their loot table. If the value of a specific item goes lower they are awarded in bigger numbers dragging them down even further. For calquat that meant they eventually went to 1 gp since they're also not used in big numbers - the POF only initiated the loop. They also are the reason why the other seeds introduced in that update are still close to worthless almost 6 years after their introduction. The market was flooded with them due to wishing wells - and none of the countermeasures - increasing their buy cap, using them in menaphos city quest, disassembly for invention and the POF had much of an impact regarding this.

I think they're an interesting concept and should be re-introduced later with at least one of the two fixes:

- The loot table will only contain stuff, which has a fairly stable value. Stuff that always is in demand.
- Items will not be awarded as soon as they drop below a specific value per item (basically the counterpart of the lost-and-found bag, which doesn't award specific items when they are too valuable). That won't fully fix a potential feedback loop, but hopefully interrupt it soon enough.
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12-Apr-2019 06:42:14 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2019 07:03:37 by Rikornak

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Hello I would like to quote something from Jagex on their "A message from Player Support" news from 19th of March 2019, which I know it has probably been forgotten by a lot of people by now as this doesn't devalue the PvM drop tables, but here you go:

Original message details are unavailable.

Over the coming weeks and months, we want to build on the areas above and build a detailed understanding of what the main issues are for all players - not only those active on social media.

To demonstrate our commitment, these are the three things we aim to do this year:

1. We will continually survey all players, rather than just those on Reddit or Twitter, to understand what you think is important from a Customer Support perspective. We’ll use this to inform our priorities and measure our progress.

2. A series of detailed blogs on these topics will outline plans involving:
Upgrading our systems
Account security, recovery and lost items
Challenging myths about Customer Support
Toxicity in game

3. Updating you regularly when things get fixed, released or improved.


Now if you missed the point of this quote as reading is not always taught in our schools I am happy to point out how Jagex has done an outstanding job on upholding their promises, albeit from so long ago that people forget and that is understandable. But I am glad that all
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of these committed promises to players have been upheld to a standard that is beyond our expectations of an orange and we got ourselves a moon instead! How amazing is that! Praise the Moon!

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13-Apr-2019 01:13:38

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