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Vaseth
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on the most recent update, the "desperate times" quest

kerapac is not the bad guy in this new quest arc, hes the hero.

his plan is totally worth it.

no bargain with the elder gods could be trusted any more than an ant could trust a bargain made with a human, nor could we overcome them with force now they are awake

we have the world gate, there must be other worlds capable of hosting some life

we should relocate as much of the population of all species as possible, then aid Kerapac in his plan to end all life on gelinor for the greater good.

14-May-2019 13:25:01 - Last edited on 14-May-2019 13:26:20 by Vaseth

Johan Rayne

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Vaseth said:


we should relocate as much of the population of all species as possible, then aid Kerapac in his plan to end all life on gelinor for the greater good.


so jagex is warning that if we continue the quest line, we better locate to another mmo before they delete all accounts and the rs3 version of the game?.

14-May-2019 23:02:32 - Last edited on 14-May-2019 23:05:13 by Johan Rayne

Dilbert2001
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It really depends on from what angle you look at Kerapace, much like Zaros.

To most creatures in the game, the Empty Lord is neither good nor bad (or ugly), also neither lawful or evil (or neutral). He only thinks about himself. He even used his sister and the life of his insane mother to try to become an Elder God. Zaros is a selfish god. Every creature including the Mahjarrats doesn't mean a thing to him.

In a similar sense, Kerapace is neither good or bad, or lawful or evil. However, unlike Zaros, he is not selfish. He does everything he thinks is good for the dragonkin, his own race which he thinks only matters.

Basically, Zaros doesn't have any allies other than his own faithful Mahjarrat and Kerapace doesn't have any allies other than his few remaining dragonkin.

Although Zaros is a real god and Kerapace is among the most powerful mortals in the Runescape Universe, they don't last long and eventually the fate of the Runescape Universe will be dependent on the fittest ones of its residents.

14-May-2019 23:58:29

Thef reak
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Dilbert2001 said:
It really depends on from what angle you look at Kerapace, much like Zaros.

To most creatures in the game, the Empty Lord is neither good nor bad (or ugly), also neither lawful or evil (or neutral). He only thinks about himself. He even used his sister and the life of his insane mother to try to become an Elder God. Zaros is a selfish god. Every creature including the Mahjarrats doesn't mean a thing to him.

In a similar sense, Kerapace is neither good or bad, or lawful or evil. However, unlike Zaros, he is not selfish. He does everything he thinks is good for the dragonkin, his own race which he thinks only matters.


I'm inclined to agree.
While I agree with Kerapac that we cannot bargain with the Elder Gods and that they must be stopped, I believe his plan of putting them back to sleep with the Needle would work without having to sacrifice Gielinor to do it.
But to destroy the Elder Gods?
That would require destruction of the planet.

17-May-2019 02:53:45

Dilbert2001
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Thef reak said:
Dilbert2001 said:
It really depends on from what angle you look at Kerapace, much like Zaros.

To most creatures in the game, the Empty Lord is neither good nor bad (or ugly), also neither lawful or evil (or neutral). He only thinks about himself. He even used his sister and the life of his insane mother to try to become an Elder God. Zaros is a selfish god. Every creature including the Mahjarrats doesn't mean a thing to him.

In a similar sense, Kerapace is neither good or bad, or lawful or evil. However, unlike Zaros, he is not selfish. He does everything he thinks is good for the dragonkin, his own race which he thinks only matters.


I'm inclined to agree.
While I agree with Kerapac that we cannot bargain with the Elder Gods and that they must be stopped, I believe his plan of putting them back to sleep with the Needle would work without having to sacrifice Gielinor to do it.
But to destroy the Elder Gods?
That would require destruction of the planet.


The Needle Skips shows it won't work because (1) even a tiny change in history can turn matters a lot worse, perhaps with the total destruction of the entire multiverse and (2) the user will become weaker and weaker every time when he uses the Needle and will eventually die.

17-May-2019 03:34:46

Gazebo
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To help his own species Kerapac is willing to murder billions from others.

Sounds like an everyday human to me. Why consider him evil in the first place ?
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17-May-2019 13:07:35

Lego Miester

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Never go full Thanos.

His plan is ludicrous. What is he going to do with that amplified time magic, exactly? Reverse time in a bubble around the whole planet to un-birth the elders? One of them is literally a god of time, I have no reason to think that their discarded tools would work on Jas.

At least with the garden idea it's about as likely to work and doesn't guarantee the eradication of all life on the planet. That's a bonus. I'll provide the seeds, ye stubborn misthalinians. We're draining that swamp and making it great again!
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17-May-2019 21:02:26 - Last edited on 17-May-2019 21:02:50 by Lego Miester

Dr Esa

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Johan Rayne said:
Vaseth said:


we should relocate as much of the population of all species as possible, then aid Kerapac in his plan to end all life on gelinor for the greater good.


so jagex is warning that if we continue the quest line, we better locate to another mmo before they delete all accounts and the rs3 version of the game?.


That's the whole plan, we're all moving to osrs.

20-May-2019 05:49:44

Dr Esa

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but jokes aside i feel bad they made kerapac a villain, and what happened to the dragon rider that he used for experimentation? Kerapac said the dragonkin were finally free

20-May-2019 05:52:41

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