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Dilbert2001 said:
Uriel said:
Dilbert2001 said:
For those who are still guessing or hoping... let's me give you something more to think about:

The shadowish island on the RS3 map is east of NORTH of High Wildy, above the gate...

The OSRS Fossil Island is east of mid Wildy...

OK. Now you may comment or keep guessing... or hoping... ;)


Osrs and rs3 hold no lore or geographical association to each other. So comparisons between the two games weigh nothing.


So a RS3 island not named Fossil Island and is not on the same location of the Fossil Island in the OSRS version of Gielinor "is" Fossil Island?????

Why don't you tell me a tropical island near the equator = the North Pole? :D:D:D:D:D:D
I think that the idea is that because of the quest and digsite update being so close together orthen represents what fossil island on osrs does lore wise which that it is the island the barge is supposed to go to! The museum people would have no way of knowing that it's orthen! Tutorial Island sank yet somehow the wizard's tower is where it used to be! It doesn't have to be the same as osrs but it might be rs3 answer to the barge thing!

20-May-2019 23:10:13

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Dilbert2001 said:
Want to hear the idea how Jagex could explain where the barge actually went to a different island but the Varrock people thought it was "Foss..." I wrote up 4 months ago? :D:D:D

"Anyway, if the main or entire purpose of Fossil Island is just for a quest, perhaps it can be done that way:

After a tour to The Arc, the World Guardian is able to gain control of The Harbringer.... so they (think they) can go to the Fossil Island now.

Just sit back and you'll hear a tale. A tale of a fateful trip...Five passengers set sail that day for a 3 month tour, a 3 month tour....

Bummer! They saw Xau-Tak's Black Hand... and misdirected to another island. They think it is the Fossil Island they have long been looking for but in reality it is just an empty island with some quest items. Nothing of value at all except a few mermaids and the Quest Item. Disappointingly the Harbringer returns to Varrock and delivers the news of nothing to the museum."


Quick find code: 16-17-591-66074160After them claiming no osrs fossil island in rs3 I'm just hoping that Jagex isn't just messing with the people that kept asking for fossil island because if it is this is just plain mean!

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20-May-2019 23:21:21

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Dilbert2001 said:
I believe what Jagex meant is they are not going to make Fossil Island in RS3, but it doesn't mean Fossil Island doesn't exist in RS3. It just is not going to be discovered by the players and any NPC in RS3.

I don't know how this new island thing is going to be made before the whole thing is shown to us. However, my story gave them a very legitimate lore to complete the Varrock Barge expedition story without actually having the players or any NPC to find the original Fossil Island. :D:D:D

And if the barge actually went to a new island in the shadowish spot added to the world map today, it most certainly is not the "Fossil Island" most OSRS players have in mind... and since the barge have sailed and the Varrock museum people thought they have found what they were looking for and that's the end of the tale of the Varrock Barge, and perhaps the end of the original Fossil Island in RS3. :)
I already said they didn't half to be the same but osrs and rs3 lore stopped being joined at the hip a long time ago and also would they have gone to the trouble of the graphical and other rework just to end it with nothing else added! Also the whole kudos thing is supposed to guarantee on the (unfinisished mind you) boat(no longer a barge) the NPCs make that very clear!Also it being orthen and the dragonkin association could techinically allow them to say it's not really fossil island therefore their earlier post is still true! Plus if the island isn't going to be a thing why add it to the map! The fog is obviously there attract attention(although the transcript of desperate might also indicate it means it is indeed orthen!

20-May-2019 23:48:39

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I reiterate I said that they don't have to be same thing! The Island appeared with the digsite update so it seems likely that is where the barge/boat goes! They also finally put the boat near water instead of in the middle of the site! You tell me what the NPCs dialogue means! The woman referred to it as TIFKAFI so technically maybe that's what jagex's earlier post actulally means!

21-May-2019 00:02:40

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Dilbert2001 said:
Frobirdfrost said:
it does seem like they're teasing it pretty hard


Yes. You probably get teased pretty hard when Jagex uncover that "storm", "cloud" or whatever and it doesn't look anything remotely close to the "Foss... " in your mind.... and then perhaps you can tell everything "hey I knew it all along becaue that stormy cloud thing is not even at where Foss is". :P
Yes but this is because a lot of player still expect both games updates to get the same care and attention! Players have been asking for monkey madness 2 almost as long as the original quest has been out! No one expects osrs Elf City to look the same as rs3's elf city (and if it does people are going to complain about why the final quest and city took so long in rs3)!

21-May-2019 01:54:40

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Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Frobirdfrost said:
it does seem like they're teasing it pretty hard


Yes. You probably get teased pretty hard when Jagex uncover that "storm", "cloud" or whatever and it doesn't look anything remotely close to the "Foss... " in your mind.... and then perhaps you can tell everything "hey I knew it all along becaue that stormy cloud thing is not even at where Foss is". :P
Yes but this is because a lot of player still expect both games updates to get the same care and attention! Players have been asking for monkey madness 2 almost as long as the original quest has been out! No one expects osrs Elf City to look the same as rs3's elf city (and if it does people are going to complain about why the final quest and city took so long in rs3)!


OSRS Priff is still in the same place as RS3 Priff.

Jagex also said The Arc, Fossil Island and Zeah are all in the same place as the grand map of Gielinor shows, regardless of RS3 or OSRS. They are all in the SAME PLACES.

If some day when Jagex unveil the "island" the digsite worker talked about and the barge goes there but it turns out to be not the Fossil Island on the official Jagex Gielinor Map, it means they no longer has any lore left to go to the actual Fossil Island. :D
Jagex is allow to change their minds and the maps and gielinor have the scale theory thing applied they could all be there the arc is a bunch of islands IT could be on of the uninhabited ones and Jagex debated adding zeah in the surveys so nothing is set in stone! Jagex said no more skills,no 120 skills other than dungeoneering all they changed their mind about! Heck they debated not giving us menaphos till the end desert storyline as a final reward! I heard about the map and it was probably meant to just mention everything from both games!! Does the map show Acheron anywhere on it ?

21-May-2019 02:16:18

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No that's not what I meant not even close! I'm saying Jagex can change things afterward(The shrouded island certainly isn't on the map! Also I checked your link and it just says it shows locations from both games! That doesn't mean they would have to be in the same place in both games! And the map is absolutely lovely! My comment was meant to say things are not set in stone! Acheron is on gielinor somewhere!

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Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
I never said it was the original idea! Just maybe the Rs3 interpretation of osrs's fossil island!


Obviously it is not the interpreation of OSRS's Fossil Island.

Again, even if there was a RS3 Fossil Island and somehow it was Orthen, it would be the FIRST CITY of dragonkin and supposedly a very important base of that race or else Kerapace wouldn't fly there with The Needle. It would certainly not be Mod Mark's idea of an island or city of just one dragonkin.
Orthen is the location of his first lab and the crucible(whatever that is) that kerapac needs for his plan is there and needs to be repaired that's why he went there! And perhaps there's only one because it's abandoned! Even kerapac doesn't normally live there! Maybe he's going to use the crucible to repair the Needle(Memories having guthix saying it was broken)!

21-May-2019 18:41:31 - Last edited on 21-May-2019 18:45:53 by Cinderlynn

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Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
I never said it was the original idea! Just maybe the Rs3 interpretation of osrs's fossil island!


Obviously it is not the interpreation of OSRS's Fossil Island.

Again, even if there was a RS3 Fossil Island and somehow it was Orthen, it would be the FIRST CITY of dragonkin and supposedly a very important base of that race or else Kerapace wouldn't fly there with The Needle. It would certainly not be Mod Mark's idea of an island or city of just one dragonkin.
Orthen is the location of his first lab and the crucible(whatever that is) that kerapac needs for his plan is there and needs to be repaired that's why he went there! And perhaps there's only one because it's abandoned! Even kerapac doesn't normally live there! Maybe he's going to use the crucible to repair the Needle(Memories having guthix saying it was broken)!


Don't forget Kerapac's son is there too. At least there have been Kerapace and his son in the "First City" of Dragonkin, not only ONE dragonkin on Mod Mark's passion Fossil Island project. :)
You weren't paying attention to the Desperate times dialogue they discussed kerapac's plans! Vicenditas said the place was a myth so he hasn't been there

21-May-2019 19:00:01

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Dilbert2001 said:
Cinderlynn said:
Also saying that there is only one dragonkin there could mean that there is only one living there now! Doesn't necessarily mean there was always only one and Mod Mark never really elaborated beyond that!


So what are you suggesting about Mod Mark's plan on his passion Fossil Island? To sum it all up for you, you have been saying through different assumptions of your own that Fossil Island = Orthen and there will be just one dragonkin there.

Let's just say if Kerapace would be the LONE dragonkin in Orthen just to give you the reason to say "Oh! That's the Fossil Island Mod Mark said of", then what? Would Kerapac's son and other dragonkin be so stupid not to go there?
Okay I'm done with this at this point! All I'm saying is that these things are possible!Like you said nobody knows what is in the heads of jmods! Heck maybe they told us this stuff hoping we would quit bringing up the subject for! All I meant is that fossil island is a possibility as is orthen or a combination of the 2! Especially after the summer reveal video!Is land out of time the name of the land mass or just the name of the update? And that sounded like a dinosaur roar not a dragonkin roar at the end!

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Skull-inky said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Other players have different theories on what the new "island" would be actually.

One particularly interesting and possible theory is it is actually not an island but a hint on a the weather system Jagex has talked about in Runefest but eventually "shelved". It is possible it is just storms.


While ever other MMO is making huge updates for the summer, i can't see a "weather system" being the update, kinda moronic.

A ship heading to an island and then a huge roar, Obviously points to the fact its a new location , with monsters, this is clearly "fossil island", all the information points in that direction.
I agree with you but if the video hadn't appeared that would definitely be on the list of possible meanings(although that would be a weird way to tease weather)

21-May-2019 20:52:43

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It just occurred to me that maybe the answer to the question which at the time was will osrs content appear rs3 was just a red herring! I mean osrs has lots of exclusive content why was no Fossil Island singled out for the answer! Maybe that was Jagex teasing this!

21-May-2019 21:12:17

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It just occurred to me that maybe the answer to the question which at the time was will osrs content appear rs3 was just a red herring! I mean osrs has lots of exclusive content why was no Fossil Island singled out for the answer! Maybe that was Jagex teasing this!
Wouldn't be the oddest thing jagex's has done

21-May-2019 21:13:24

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How many times do I have to tell you I didn't say they needed to be the exact same thing But guesss what the NPC referred to it as TIFKAFI! So whether you agree or not that they can be the same thing that is what she said!And unless Jagex intends to never add another piece of land to the game that world map will eventually become no longer up to date

21-May-2019 23:37:31 - Last edited on 21-May-2019 23:38:25 by Cinderlynn

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