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RupertGiles2
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There were 4 votes and we offered to compromise every time. Pkers insisted that not bowing and scaping to them was spite. Vote no to all pvm/pker updates to punish them for spite voting skills.

19-May-2019 03:19:47

Boabies
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RupertGiles2 said:
There were 4 votes and we offered to compromise every time. Pkers insisted that not bowing and scaping to them was spite.


You guys didn't say shit but "waaaaaaaaaaaaah just don't give PKers a damn thing" which is why the polling questions were the exact same each time. The JGods themselves stated it was obvious spite on numerous occasions.
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19-May-2019 05:17:59

Miu

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My thread is in regards to ANY (content) poll that fails and is then considered an integrity update at a later date.

Polls that are then repolled later, while can understandably make people upset, still leaves the outcome in the hands of the community.

Polling something and then deciding it's actually an integrity update snatches the control of the game from the players after previously giving it to them.

This thread isn't about spite votes, nor accusations of them.
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20-May-2019 02:02:38

Solo Bobs
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Solo Bobs

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Miu said:
My thread is in regards to ANY (content) poll that fails and is then considered an integrity update at a later date.

Polls that are then repolled later, while can understandably make people upset, still leaves the outcome in the hands of the community.

Polling something and then deciding it's actually an integrity update snatches the control of the game from the players after previously giving it to them.

This thread isn't about spite votes, nor accusations of them.


I couldn't care less what you intended this thread to be about, to be honest. You need to understand what the opposition's argument is. It's that spite voting made this an integrity issue. Is it right or wrong? I think it's right and you think it's wrong? But here's the fact that you need to understand. The opposition thinks that spite voters prevented it from passing 4 times. Any community being spite voted is an integrity issue.
Don't spite vote all PvP updates because of how frightened you are of PKers and then cry about how everything needs to be shoved in as integrity

20-May-2019 02:06:06

Miu

Miu

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Solo Bobs said:
Miu said:
My thread is in regards to ANY (content) poll that fails and is then considered an integrity update at a later date.

Polls that are then repolled later, while can understandably make people upset, still leaves the outcome in the hands of the community.

Polling something and then deciding it's actually an integrity update snatches the control of the game from the players after previously giving it to them.

This thread isn't about spite votes, nor accusations of them.


I couldn't care less what you intended this thread to be about, to be honest. You need to understand what the opposition's argument is. It's that spite voting made this an integrity issue. Is it right or wrong? I think it's right and you think it's wrong? But here's the fact that you need to understand. The opposition thinks that spite voters prevented it from passing 4 times. Any community being spite voted is an integrity issue.


Jagex already stated that they're working on something to let things get polled just for pkers, right? Then why the need to shove certain changes into the game as "integrity" fixes when that's just around the corner?
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20-May-2019 02:09:25

Solo Bobs
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Solo Bobs

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Miu said:
Solo Bobs said:
Miu said:
My thread is in regards to ANY (content) poll that fails and is then considered an integrity update at a later date.

Polls that are then repolled later, while can understandably make people upset, still leaves the outcome in the hands of the community.

Polling something and then deciding it's actually an integrity update snatches the control of the game from the players after previously giving it to them.

This thread isn't about spite votes, nor accusations of them.


I couldn't care less what you intended this thread to be about, to be honest. You need to understand what the opposition's argument is. It's that spite voting made this an integrity issue. Is it right or wrong? I think it's right and you think it's wrong? But here's the fact that you need to understand. The opposition thinks that spite voters prevented it from passing 4 times. Any community being spite voted is an integrity issue.


Jagex already stated that they're working on something to let things get polled just for pkers, right? Then why the need to shove certain changes into the game as "integrity" fixes when that's just around the corner?


I don't even know tbh. They talked about it once on a stream and we never heard about it again. Thank you for understanding the whole counterargument though. I feel as if I have nothing else to contribute to this discussion since I've made you understand my and the opposition's viewpoint, so I'd like to mention one more thing.

This isn't about PKer favoritism. It's about streamer favoritism. Jagex didn't give a fuck about fixing the actual problems with PvP (gmaul, black d'hide, other shit that PKers are upset about) until Sick Nerd made one tweet. Just one. It wasn't even a very long rant, but it used the exact same words that he did in this tweet. It basically said "Jagex, quit focusing so much on PvM,
Don't spite vote all PvP updates because of how frightened you are of PKers and then cry about how everything needs to be shoved in as integrity

20-May-2019 02:14:55

Solo Bobs
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Solo Bobs

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the one part that everyone wants slowed down, and start focusing on PvP, the part that everyone has been begging for updates for" and surely enough, that's how Jagex addressed their dev blog. "Since our greatest criticism is <insert tweet here>, we have decided to address these issues!" I think everyone completely overlooked that aspect. This happened like 2 days after his tweet lmao. Don't spite vote all PvP updates because of how frightened you are of PKers and then cry about how everything needs to be shoved in as integrity

20-May-2019 02:16:28

Ravi sucks
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bump, I'd like a response to my comment Miu about the streamer favoritism. Don't solely bash risky drop tables and not the risk-free ones then wonder why the JGods shut your opinions out when analyzing why PvP polls never pass.

20-May-2019 22:30:30

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