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Supporters: (73.3%)

Notcool97
Iron Boab
Ceolink3
Jeremy Cheng
Nikolas10181
Iron Robsham
RNGanked
One Dub
djh101
cornaby3
Solo Bobs

Non-Supporters: (26.6%)


Angel2D4
pumpkinholes
Torrcs
Loot Kid

Unknown:


Emperor Dupe
P51mustang23
Japanese
sTReTCh1028

if you are in the Unknown Category, you may have not said you did not support this, nor that you did, or you may have not completely understood my point.
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11-Jun-2019 21:41:07 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2019 12:52:20 by ed789121main

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Notcool97 said:
Support. Would encourage more people to get into PvP, making it less dead. Would stop people crying for special treatment with regards to content that 1 def people can't do, resetting XP that they didn't want etc.

That it would 'devalue' accounts that should never have existed in the first place is not an issue imo. The game should never have discouraged leveling defence. This is a genuine integrity issue that is a large part of the reason a lot of people don't bother getting into pvp.


@Notcool97 and @Iron Boab , thank you for support!

Notcool97 said:
This is a genuine integrity issue


i wouldn't know if this is an integrity issue though imo :):P (don't quote me on that though)
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16-Jun-2019 14:56:35 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 15:18:39 by ed789121main

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Emperor Dupe said:
It's already achievable, just make an Iron account to have locked in Melee & Range stats for PvP.

yes, but i still have to pay extra for membership on each ironman account, and i have to hope nobody loots the drops of whoever i killed. and i still have to spend extra time training.

that solves almost none of my problems, and adds the disadvantage of being an iron man.

and you did not say you did not support this, nor that you did, and you may have not completely understood my point. Therefore, you are not on the list of non-supporters. if you have re-read the post and read this reply to your post, you may post no support or -1 to be added to the list of non-supporters.
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16-Jun-2019 23:40:14 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 17:40:01 by ed789121main

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Ceolink3 said:
Support. I actually love this idea. Would help to combat loot bots, and any other lower levelled bot for that matter. Twice now I have created new accounts for the sole purpose of killing loot bots because I was bored. Unfortunately, the new accounts level up to quick so killing looters is short lived.

Would also allow more people to fight each other. If I'm out strolling around and there's no players around my level, but there are a bunch of players 30+ levels below me, I would be able to join in on the fun instead of having to sit and wait or have another account on standby and have to log out... log back in... run to that spot really fast... etc...

Also, a LOT of time is wasted on alt accounts. Time I could be spending doing other things such as enjoying the quests instead of creating an alt and getting tired out from it.

I do agree that you shouldn't have to have numerous accounts just to have more pk options available to you. Especially since there are some things you do not learn about pking until it is too late, and you are forced to either quit pking because you don't stand a chance against other pkers at your level, or create an alt account to start all over. Unless you just like getting killed over and over.

Hopefully there isn't too many nay-sayers on this. I hate it when good ideas get dismissed, and you are definitely on to something.

I could keep going on, but it would get off topic pretty quick so I'll stop here.
Hope this gets accomplished!


Wow! Thank you for all the support! what a big post!
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19-Jun-2019 16:30:03

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A Z Z osrs said:
It would have to require you to NOT be in a PVP area before switching stats. So you can't do this at all in the wildy, and if you lower a level you can not enter the wildy for 2 mins.

Also you can not change servers for 5 minutes afterwards. Otherwise people would scout people out. Then attack some poor level 60 with a level 80 in 20 wildy. See the issue?

Thank You. it may have been implied, but i will add that to the main post.
A Z Z osrs said:


No, the more I think about it the more broken it would be. The only thing I would accept is a way to lower a level by 500xp per day (capped at 500xp so hackers can't ruin accounts).

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Here's an even better idea: Create a character selection screen so players can have all characters on one account. Charge an extra $5 per character if Jagex thinks it will be a revenue issue. This would likely result in FAR more people having alt's and ironmen.


those suggestions are completely different from the original post and solves none of my problems.

and you did not say you did not support this, nor that you did, and you may have not completely understood my point. Therefore, you are not on the list of non-supporters. you may post no support or -1 to be added to the list of non-supporters,or vice-versa.
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21-Jun-2019 02:04:35 - Last edited on 21-Jun-2019 02:06:18 by ed789121main

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A Z Z osrs said:
It would have to require you to NOT be in a PVP area before switching stats. So you can't do this at all in the wildy, and if you lower a level you can not enter the wildy for 2 mins.

Also you can not change servers for 5 minutes afterwards. Otherwise people would scout people out. Then attack some poor level 60 with a level 80 in 20 wildy.


i will add this quote to the main post.
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21-Jun-2019 02:07:17 - Last edited on 21-Jun-2019 02:08:57 by ed789121main

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Angel2D4 said:
ed789121main said:
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i shouldn't have to pay 100 dollars a month to be a member on all my accounts just so i can pk. that is many people's (including myself) reason not to pk.

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It isn't the reason I don't pk.

You don't "have to" pay for additional accounts.. you choose to. That's money in the pockets of the company that provides the game and you're suggesting that should be taken away from them.

No support.


if it was a members-only feature, i'm sure that they would not lose as much profit. it would also bring a VERY LARGE amount of new people to the pking community.

and, i did not claim i HAD TO pay, if you pay attention to the quote you used yourself: ed789121main said:
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i shouldn't have to pay 100 dollars a month to be a member on all my accounts just so i can pk. that is many people's (including myself) reason not to pk.

...
you will see that i described it as a requisite for member's pking. i am sorry if you did not understand.
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21-Jun-2019 02:22:48 - Last edited on 22-Jun-2019 01:01:56 by ed789121main

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Pumpkinholes said:
probably one of the silliest yet dumbest idea ive heard on here.
i assume that means no support? I will add you to the no support list, if you want to be on a different list, just reply!

Jeremy Cheng said:
So this is for mains wanting to fight at pure levels? Support!


Thank you for support!
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24-Jun-2019 18:49:40

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Nikolas10181 said:
I would support it with restrictions in place so you can't just do changes at will, but the real issue is that pkers pay for these extra accounts so they can pk Jagex isn't giving up that revenue.

there is/would be restrictions. if you would like to not be on the support list, let me know. :)
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30-Jun-2019 15:53:25

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ed789121main said:
I would like to add a section from one of the replies, as to make it part of the suggestion:A Z Z osrs said:
It would have to require you to NOT be in a PVP area before switching stats. So you can't do this at all in the wildy, and if you lower a level you can not enter the wildy for 2 mins.

Also you can not change servers for 5 minutes afterwards. Otherwise people would scout people out. Then attack some poor level 60 with a level 80 in 20 wildy.


a few people said it would lower jagex income, but my counter point to that is Jmods have expressed a clear interest in getting more people to pk, and i assume this would be a member's feature. (maybe make it availible on all pvp worlds, but only if you're a member? idk)

and a few people have gone offtopic and started talking about skillers and hacked accounts, please do not do that, as this suggestion is not permanent lowering, or being able to make them higher, and hiscores will still show original stats, so please keep the suggestion what it is and do not be off-topic. (maybe make it only availible on PvP worlds or in the wildy? idk)

-----Support poll-----

post "+1" or the word "support" if you support, "-1" or the phrase "no support" if you don't. you may possibly not be added to either list if you do not do so.

Supporters: (62.5%)


Notcool97
Iron Boab
Ceolink3
Jeremy Cheng
Nikolas10181

Non-Supporters: (37.5%)


Angel2D4
pumpkinholes
Torrcs

Unknown:


Emperor Dupe
P51mustang23

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30-Jun-2019 16:10:15

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Nikolas10181 said:
ed789121main said:
Nikolas10181 said:
I would support it with restrictions in place so you can't just do changes at will, but the real issue is that pkers pay for these extra accounts so they can pk Jagex isn't giving up that revenue.

there is/would be restrictions. if you would like to not be on the support list, let me know. :)


I do support it because it solves the issue which is that if you want to pk you are pretty much punished for training certain stats. Pking on a main isn't a thing unless it's a maxed main which restricts your options to an insane degree.

Great! Thank you for support!
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01-Jul-2019 17:25:53

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Angel2D4 said:
Notcool97 said:
Japanese said:
ed789121main said:
@Japanese , this suggestion has nothing to do with XP resets or skillers. that is not a slight revision, that is a whole different suggestion. please do not get off topic.

Ok then no support. Pointless idea.
Lol did you even read the OP? The suggestion allows people to engage in PvP without needing to create another account and train it to suitable stats from scratch, how is that "pointless"?


It would also allow for someone to do any/all quests and reap the rewards from them.. and then go back down to a level they preferred (without the loss of the quest reward.. access to ape atoll for example).


ed789121main said:
having combat stats lowered would not let you use combat dummys, or other game features requiring a low combat level. you also would not have access to features requiring a higher level than what you changed it to.
this would probably apply to quests and such.
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01-Jul-2019 18:26:30 - Last edited on 01-Jul-2019 18:32:37 by ed789121main

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Angel2D4 said:
You'd get the 'rewards' from completing the quest.. but only the rewards you wanted.. and if one area of the game should be allowed for only what one group wants.. then all other areas should also allow for what another group wants.. and so on, and so on, and so on.

it is temporary, not permanant.
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02-Jul-2019 18:42:09

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Angel2D4 said:
ed789121main said:
Angel2D4 said:
You'd get the 'rewards' from completing the quest.. but only the rewards you wanted.. and if one area of the game should be allowed for only what one group wants.. then all other areas should also allow for what another group wants.. and so on, and so on, and so on.

it is temporary, not permanant.


It's "temporary" only for as long as you want it, right?

I mean, you did say (in the opening post) that:

ed789121main said:
...in your combat tab, there is a button to switch back to your original stats
...


NOT that it's only temporary, for so long but just that "there is a button to switch back" (not that you'd be required to switch back) so you still get the benefit of the quest rewards without the portion of the rewards that you don't want.

...

i now understand your point. but can i please, before we get a flame war in this thread, ask to keep it calm? discussion is fine and encouraged, however.

---------------

i also agree with @Notcool97 's point.
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02-Jul-2019 20:59:58 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2019 01:10:50 by ed789121main

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this is for parts of the suggestion that you don't have to read, but you can if you want to:


-----PvM Benefits-----

here's a few ways the PvM community could benefit:


easier to figure out recommended combat stats/money made per hour depending on combat/etc. for new PvM Content when it is released

much easier to setup to try and kill a Monster at a lowest possible combat level (elvarg at 10 combat, Inferno at 48 combat, etc.)


-----Unrestricted World Benefits-----

here's a way Unrestricted World players could benefit:

On Unrestricted Worlds, Players could lower stats and do bosses and things like that to practice and figure out how low you can go
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Let us lower Combat
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04-Jul-2019 12:13:00 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2019 13:53:31 by ed789121main

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sTReTCh1028 said:
I would ONLY support this if:

1) It required a substantial sacrifice, such as consuming a Bond for 6 hours of use, and
2) As mentioned in 1), it had a game-clock on it that limited its use so it's not just "however long I want it to be".

If it's just a feature you can lower your levels at will and reset them whenever you want, no support.
it is not completely at will, but it does not have a cost other than being a member.

it does have limitations, you will see them if you look over the main 2 posts.
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06-Jul-2019 19:07:22 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2019 19:09:49 by ed789121main

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Torrcs said:
Let's be honest here anyone actually supporting this will just vote it in and not actually use it to go Pk you are all afraid of risk therefore you need to stop pretending like you'll go out and pvp
What implies that we are afraid of risk?
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07-Jul-2019 13:49:43

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Iron Robsham said:
Hmm, was gonna say no support because I don't like pkers, but then it occurred to me that this would allow me to do wildy content with high def stats + black d-hide at like 20 combat level on a 2k world where the average pker can't venture. Hell, I could go so low they couldn't barrage or tb either :o

Ok, I think this would actually make the pkers cry when they realised that it completely neutralises the advantage that the broken combat level system gives them over normal players, so I support.

Edit: I've just played around with a combat calc for the first time ever. 99hp/43prayer at 30 cb level? Dinhs/black d hide at 50 cb level? 43 prayer at 8 cb level?? I wonder what the new defence meta would be? This idea is hilarious amazing!
Wow, i didn't even think of it that way! Thank You for Support!
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10-Jul-2019 15:42:06

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