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Support for adding this particular skill in as integrity although my support shouldn't matter for an integrity issue. I don't like this recent revamp, but I'm willing to compromise. It's dealing with way too many spite voters as you stated. my 8th alt

16-Jul-2019 00:43:50

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cooke fletch said:
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Neither will black d hide nerf yet no one quit over integrity fixes.
There is zero reason to nerf the black d hide except to destroy more of the game. THAT is not integrity fixes. Skills are necessary for the game but time after time pvpers and pkers have voted against them out of spite.


Except there is. It's extremely broken for how cheap it is. It's an integrity issue how it's nearly impossible to PK someone in black d'hide ESPECIALLY when it's worthless.
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16-Jul-2019 05:36:21

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cooke fletch said:
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Lol, if you want something in the game, earn it (e.g. explain to people why it should be added etc. so they vote yes), rather than demand it just be given to you.
The game needs new skills or it will die. That means skills are an integrity issue the game but pvpers and pkers spite vote (meaning they vote against what is best for their long term game play) everything involving a skill.

I don't care if its a skill I want or not. What is important is that we get new skills.


No, it's not. New skills aren't integrity issues. Warding is. Quit trolling.
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16-Jul-2019 05:36:55

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cooke fletch said:
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Lmao whats your basis of saying that?

Polls are what keeps OSRS from dying, its what keeps Jagex from messing up like they did with RS3.

Whenever they do an integrity change, its a HUGE mess up, like what they are doing to gmauls. Integrity changes are what kills the game. Just because you like new skills, it doesn't mean you can be authoritarian and pass it as an integrity change. Otherwise we could ask for whatever things we like to be an integrity change, for example having pures be able to do MM2 even if it was voted no.

By the way, your signature is so ironic LOL "Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you."
Skills will keep the game alive long term but pvper and pkers have spite voted every skill since 2013.


False. PKers vote yes to new skills. Quit making shit up to justify your spite towards PKers.
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16-Jul-2019 05:37:24

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cooke fletch said:
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Rofl, I love how everyone defending polling integrity issues just wants to spite vote and put themselves above the game's health and longevity.
The only reason rs2 lasted as long as it did was it kept getting new skills. Without new skills, it would have become stale and boring and that would have lead to it dying.

THAT is why skills are integrity issues.

When pkers argue that they will only support it if is placed in the wild, and then vote that way, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

THAT is spite.


It didn't last very long at all. Good job convincing me that we shouldn't ever get any new skills. Besides, PKers never asked for new skills to be only trainable inside the wilderness. Quit trying to make shit up about them. You're sounding just a bit spiteful which I'm sure the JGods have noticed. :)
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16-Jul-2019 14:57:44 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2019 14:59:25 by the bot dib

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cooke fletch said:
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NonMax Jake said:
Lol, if you want something in the game, earn it (e.g. explain to people why it should be added etc. so they vote yes), rather than demand it just be given to you.
The game needs new skills or it will die. That means skills are an integrity issue the game but pvpers and pkers spite vote (meaning they vote against what is best for their long term game play) everything involving a skill.

I don't care if its a skill I want or not. What is important is that we get new skills.


No, it's not. New skills aren't integrity issues. Warding is. Quit trolling.
Warding is a new skill. I don't care if its warding, sailing, artisian or pking skill, we need some new skill.


Kk. How about a new PKing skill?
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16-Jul-2019 14:59:42

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cooke fletch said:
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False. PKers vote yes to new skills. Quit making shit up to justify your spite towards PKers.
No one knows how they actually voted, but based on their comments in the forum, they always spite voted against new skills because they didn't want to buy them and they were not put in the wild for them to steal the final product without cost.


I don't think any PKer ever comes to these forums. Where the fuck do you see these PKers or do you just make false assumptions as usual?
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16-Jul-2019 15:00:27

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ed789121main said:
scousy said:
Dr Urology said:
Lmao whats your basis of saying that?

Polls are what keeps OSRS from dying, its what keeps Jagex from messing up like they did with RS3.

Whenever they do an integrity change, its a HUGE mess up, like what they are doing to gmauls. Integrity changes are what kills the game. Just because you like new skills, it doesn't mean you can be authoritarian and pass it as an integrity change. Otherwise we could ask for whatever things we like to be an integrity change, for example having pures be able to do MM2 even if it was voted no.

By the way, your signature is so ironic LOL "Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you."



L0l zulrah nerf 6 hour afk and alot of other sht didn't get polled. Neither will black d hide nerf yet no one quit over integrity fixes.
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no support from completely going against the whole point of the game just because people said no. and don't tell me about that whole F2P Teleblock ordeal,that is much smaller than THE GAMES FIRST NEW SKILL


Same shit, it's all still integrity.
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16-Jul-2019 20:37:26

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cooke fletch said:
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cooke fletch said:
NonMax Jake said:
Lol, if you want something in the game, earn it (e.g. explain to people why it should be added etc. so they vote yes), rather than demand it just be given to you.
The game needs new skills or it will die. That means skills are an integrity issue the game but pvpers and pkers spite vote (meaning they vote against what is best for their long term game play) everything involving a skill.

I don't care if its a skill I want or not. What is important is that we get new skills.


No, it's not. New skills aren't integrity issues. Warding is. Quit trolling.
Warding is a new skill. I don't care if its warding, sailing, artisian or pking skill, we need some new skill.


Kk. How about a new PKing skill?


If warding is an "integrity" issue and should be forced in without a poll.. so should a new pking skill.. that's entirely trained in the wildy.. with the risk of losing everything to the pkers..

Hey unforgiven.. if you don't want to train this new skill in the wildy (and it's entirely trained in the wildy) just remember.. YOU are the one who said you don't care what skill it is as long as it's put in without a poll..

That'd be one hell of a pvp update for sure. =)


Both of them are integrity. Force em in.
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16-Jul-2019 20:37:45

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RupertGiles2 said:
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Rofl, I love how everyone defending polling integrity issues just wants to spite vote and put themselves above the game's health and longevity.
The only reason rs2 lasted as long as it did was it kept getting new skills. Without new skills, it would have become stale and boring and that would have lead to it dying.

THAT is why skills are integrity issues.

When pkers argue that they will only support it if is placed in the wild, and then vote that way, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

THAT is spite.


It didn't last very long at all. Good job convincing me that we shouldn't ever get any new skills. Besides, PKers never asked for new skills to be only trainable inside the wilderness. Quit trying to make shit up about them. You're sounding just a bit spiteful which I'm sure the JGods have noticed. :)


most games last between 1 and 4 years. Rs2 lasted from 2004 to 2010, then became rs3, and is still alive, because it gets new skills. A lot of pkers posted on threads during artesian that unless it was in the wild, they would not vote for it. When they found they could not pk ship to ship everywhere, they said they would vote against sailing.


Dungeoneering and summoning are what led to EoC and caused the destruction of RS3. Get your head outta your ass and use some logic for once. Also, PKers don't give a shit about new skills. They'll vote yes and don't want to force skillers into the wilderness. It's the skillers who are trying to force the PKers out of the wilderness. Jagex acknowledged this spite and realized they start to just classify every PvP update from now on as integrity.
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16-Jul-2019 23:32:44

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RupertGiles2 said:
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Kk. How about a new PKing skill?
I would not consider it something I would be interested in, but if that was the only choice it should be.

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The game is how old now? And it hasn't died. It doesn't need a new skill, it needs new content, its different.
6 years and already on the downward slide.


That was a troll remark to poke fun at your logic. No support for a PKing skill. Skilling is meant to be point and click content. You're so overly biased that you can't even tell a high-quality skill from a low-quality one.

False. The game's been growing rapidly and hasn't gotten any new skills. Ever since they started focusing on actually helping PKers for once, the game's been bringing back the old players that quit.
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16-Jul-2019 23:34:05

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cooke fletch said:
Really? give me a link to a thread about artisan in the forum. I want to see you do that consider that all threads are lost after page 50.

you and your alts demand I give you links to forum threads 4 and 5 years ago, so, lets see one from 4 years ago. I was talking about them in 2014, so, yes I know that's when they were saying it.

You demand that I give you proof that a clan was saying they were going to block it, but you say EVERYONE voted against it because of something else, so prove it.

That's what you demand of me.


Nikolas has no alts LOL. He's the epitome of integrity. This man could've abused 6 hour afk but didn't. He could be abusing alts like Jake and I do since it became the meta, but doesn't. He could be flooding the economy with resources to take a dump on skillers, but doesn't. He's not like you who's constantly flaming free players for being freeloaders while being a freeloader who doesn't even pay with real cash to fund Jagex. Nik could've botted his account and not gotten banned in 2008-2011, but he didn't. Nik could buy his stats out by RWTing them via bonds, but he doesn't.

As for your proof, "it's long since gone" as you would say. :)
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18-Jul-2019 04:24:54

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cooke fletch said:
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It also had nothing to do with PvP people were more interested in keeping old school actually old school which is the number one reason given when looking through them.
When people voted on some thing, they had 97% support. That means that only 3% voted against things to keep the game the same. There was not enough of them to stop the vote. ANY vote.


Lol, PKers are the only ones who give a shit about game integrity anymore. They should make it so that only PKers can vote on polls.
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18-Jul-2019 04:26:36

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