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Tenebri
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Whatusaytome said:
In case you aren't aware. RAFFLES ARE RANDOM.



At the moment, a select few people have significantly better odds, because they don't care what accounts win. They just want to win more. If the ticket pool was more diverse, others would have a more fair shot, instead of these select few having 6000:2 odds.

Random is better than rigged.


and earning tickets would create more people with increased better odds. instead of the few people using shit tons of alts.

the reason i talk about mass ticket increase. is due to the people being able to increase there chances significantly. to the people unable to earn as many tickets.

right now the chance hypothetically i dont know real number obviously. so im going to use easy numbers to work with

lets say now people using lots of alts increase theres by 5% of winning. everyone else is 3% (depending on amount of rewards that day)

with the chance of earning tickets (so more tickets in game)

the people able to hoard more due to game play the chances of all of these people added up with the amount of new tickets in game. will lower the chance of the people winning to less than 3% due to so many other players now on 4 or 5% mark hell probably be even more than that. due to reward pool being same. the ones that can earn more will take these items. with a few unable to earn getting lucky.

way it is now with alts. more casual players stand a chance
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06-Jan-2019 19:52:41 - Last edited on 06-Jan-2019 19:54:04 by Tenebri

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No they don't. With earning tickets being allowed, they'd stand more of a chance, because the select few players bypassing with alts won't be earning tickets themselves.

They already have their bypass which takes significant time. They won't be earning much if at all. But the casual legitimate players will have better odds because they have the time to get theirs.

It's more tickets in game, on legitimate accounts. Not throwaways.
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06-Jan-2019 20:05:43 - Last edited on 06-Jan-2019 20:06:41 by Whatusaytome

Tenebri
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Whatusaytome said:
No they don't. With earning tickets being allowed, they'd stand more of a chance, because the select few players bypassing with alts won't be earning tickets themselves.

They already have their bypass which takes significant time. They won't be earning much if at all. But the casual legitimate players will have better odds because they have the time to get theirs.

It's more tickets in game, on legitimate accounts. Not throwaways.


its simple maths it just wont work that way im sorry
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06-Jan-2019 20:13:19

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Yes it's simple math. If we were all able to earn up to 10 tickets while he entered his 6k. We'd all have better odds than if we were only allowed the current 2.

Why is that a bad thing? Because it's more tickets in the pool? Like I said, all new tickets are on legitimate players' accounts.
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06-Jan-2019 20:20:17

Tenebri
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Whatusaytome said:
Yes it's simple math. If we were all able to earn up to 10 tickets while he entered his 6k. We'd all have better odds than if we were only allowed the current 2.

Why is that a bad thing? Because it's more tickets in the pool? Like I said, all new tickets are on legitimate players' accounts.


re read what i said. its not about us earning tickets. its about giving unfair advantage to more people...

your comment holds nothing to what i just said
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06-Jan-2019 21:01:35

Tenebri
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Whatusaytome said:
You just don't want anybody else to have a way to earn higher odds for themselves, on the accounts they want.

I'm still waiting to hear how this access to 10 tickets instead of 2 is lowering their chances, but a single person with 6k isnt.


who said there was a limit of 10 tickets? either way im not

there are going to be people able to gain more tickets than others. again i say read above its explained there. if you fail to understand simple maths. this isnt a maths lesson im not your teacher.


Ironman Gup said:
We could look at keeping the ticket cap at 2 but to ban raffle riggers?


you mean people who use alts? thats not rigging it

so how do you go about banning people who use alts? is it done via ip? done via reporting them? how is this going to work?
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06-Jan-2019 23:07:14

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Tenebri said:
Whatusaytome said:
You just don't want anybody else to have a way to earn higher odds for themselves, on the accounts they want.

I'm still waiting to hear how this access to 10 tickets instead of 2 is lowering their chances, but a single person with 6k isnt.


who said there was a limit of 10 tickets? either way im not

there are going to be people able to gain more tickets than others. again i say read above its explained there. if you fail to understand simple maths. this isnt a maths lesson im not your teacher.


Ironman Gup said:
We could look at keeping the ticket cap at 2 but to ban raffle riggers?


you mean people who use alts? thats not rigging it

so how do you go about banning people who use alts? is it done via ip? done via reporting them? how is this going to work?


I dont mean people using their 1 or 2 alt accounts. I mean Raffle Riggers who use hundreds or thousands of accounts with the intention of diluting the reward pool that others can win from.

Since Jagex have aid they have a way to make it harder to raffle rig, you can ask how they currently track raffle riggers. Considering one of them has made a video with their usernames public, a good start woud he to remove all them.
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06-Jan-2019 23:13:31

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Another definition of Rigging: The act of arranging dishonestly for the result of something, for example an election, to be changed.

Some players have been deliberately bypassing the 2 ticket rule in a dishonest fashion to rig the raffle in their favour. I am not talking about the average person who has 1 or 2 alt accounts, but the people with hundreds or more. I (and many others) see it as Raffle Rigging and I ask you stop trying to correct people who state it isn't. At this point it is becoming disruptive and I am concerned it may be going off-topic.

If you disagree with the term "Raffle Rigging" then I do not expect you to use it. But I have given definitions and others have agreed on that definition, so leave it be.
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06-Jan-2019 23:16:28 - Last edited on 06-Jan-2019 23:18:40 by Ironman Gup

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