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In an effort to improve impartiality and objectivity, here are the Specific Definitions for Price Manipulation and Trending:

1st Degree "Direct" Manipulation: Any false report or conflict.

2nd Degree "Indirect" Manipulation: Any malicious claim based on ZERO evidence that suggests prices should be going a certain direction (i.e. up or down).

Example: "Dragon pickaxe will be augmentable in September 2016! Go see the Catherby BTS update."

[This is 2nd degree manipulation because the Catherby BTS did not mention anything about dragon pickaxe, augmentation, or mining rework.]

Example: "Wolf bones probably will go down in price because the Catherby-White-Wolf_Mountain rework will attract more players to kill wolves."

[This is NOT 2nd degree manipulation because the player did not claim with certainty that prices will actually go down and that the Catherby BTS may indeed affect wolf bone supply].

Note: Accidents with reading informational releases do occur, so the lack of malice is an exemption.

Trending: Statements that claim prices should be going up or down in the future or have been going up or down in the past. (applies to in-game FC only, not Forums)

Example: "Omg, fish masks are rising!"

[This is trending.]

Example: "Omg, fish masks are finally cheap. I'm so glad that I could squeeze my 100m bank into buying 100 of them yesterday. "

[Although one may argue that 'cheap' suggests prices should go up in the future, words like 'cheap' are part of subjective claims that do not make a definitive statement about price trends. What is 'cheap' or 'expensive' is different from person to person (a 100m noob vs. a 1000m rich guy). Similarly, expressing satisfaction or dissatisfaction with one's own trade is another subjective claim that has no bearing whether prices should rise or go down or remain the same. For all we know, the person making that statement worked hard to get his 100m and is finally able to afford 100 fish masks for his permanent collection.]
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

30-Aug-2016 06:47:31

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New Years said:
#Post 1.6
~Trading System and Rules~

As stated in the earlier posts, Trading TH/SOF items in the FC is currently allowed, but with certain limitations. You may buy, trade, and/or sell TH/SOF rares with each other in the FC. If you use the FC to trade with another person, you must not state the Quantity or Price of “X” items and that trades between another person will not be taken as a price update if the trade happens. ONLY TH/SOF items are allowed to be traded through the FC and not other items.

•For example: Saying, "Sell luchador pm me." is ALLOWED.

•But saying, "Selling 200 luchadors cheap or for 100k ea" WILL NOT BE ALLOWED because this states a quantity and price also can be misleading to start trending which is not allowed in the FC.

Only TH/SOF items, no price, no quantity, no trending, and definitely no spamming it. Any form of trending will have a rank telling you to read the forum rules and a kick from the FC to give you time to read and understand the rules.

TH/SOF skill sets that are tradable for other parts are also allowed in the Friends Chat as long as the player doesn't spam looking for specific pieces multiple times.


Presumably this post refers to only trading within FC. Beyond soliciting a trade, there is no mention about restricting the discussion of quantities bought or sold in FC or Forums.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

02-Sep-2016 21:55:32

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Other posts do not mention anything about quantities either. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

02-Sep-2016 21:55:57

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Cyderman said:
Hello,

I would like to respectfully ask for my rank to be taken away. I haven't been active recently and don't feel like I deserve to have it. I've been too busy with work and just haven't been too interested in the TH market as of late. I appreciate your past confidence in me, and who knows, maybe I'll be back one day. Hope you guys have a great rest of the week. Take care, it's been fun.

Thank you,
Cyderman


Thanks for your service. It's unfortunate where the market has led us. Good luck with your adventures in real life and we hope to see you soon!

-Motherland and New Years
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

13-Sep-2016 00:57:22

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New Years said:
I would also like to thank Motherland for his contributions for the FC even though things have gone in the opposite direction of what the FC and I have wanted. You gave the opportunity for me to make an impact in a community that I have fallen in love with and want to keep it striving in a positive direction.

We highly respect you for what you have started and passed on for all of us and being part of something bigger than any individual and we dont want to end our relationship with you. The reasons why a temporary suspension had to happen is for both you and the other player take a break from the FC and end the issue between each other and to stop posting off topic on the forums thread.

We wish the best to you and once Ranked members have noticed a difference between both players, a vote will be made to allow access to FC again.


It's really my fault for being naive. The moment I got your money and you had control of everything I became a mere figurehead with no real say. Between you and me, laying blame on the guy who has no power can never go wrong, because what's that guy going to do? Nothing. Turn the tables around and you can bet which way "votes" go. When "sof rares pc", the predecessor clan of "th rares pc", was under my complete control, everyone had nothing but nice things to say to me. The moment I resigned in 2014, it all turned real nasty.

As much as it's customary to say that the past few months have been a pleasure, I can't say that they were. Being an admin for FC is being essentially an unpaid customer service representative who has to deal with all the messages that come his way. While some messages that I received deserved respect, many of them did not. Like some things in life, they seemed fun at the beginning, but they become a chore in the end.

Anyways, I asked over 40 people that I have seen online today, and no one seems to be interested in taking over for me. Smart people.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

15-Sep-2016 00:42:48

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^Don't bother with your election antics that involve 2 or 3 people at most. I don't plan on coming back. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

15-Sep-2016 00:44:39

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Ramesses II said:
Sea King said:
^Don't bother with your election antics that involve 2 or 3 people at most. I don't plan on coming back.


Putting me and other in KOS for making trending discussion that did not impact anyone was very wrong. Blaming a legit player for manipulation was out of control. Lastly as a ranked player flaming, trolling and spamming a thread was inappropiate.

Yes I am in the KOS because of you. The damage has been done and justice has been served. What goes around comes around.

Giving a sad friendship drama story will not get your rank back. What will get your rank back is to fix up. You are not the person I knew years ago. You have changed this year be like who you were years ago.

You were respected and everyone always knew that you were one of the best leader of sof/TH back then. I don't understand why changed but I do hope you will one day be who you were in 2013-2015.


I never had any final say over that lol. New Years has always had control of everything. ^Read my earlier statement carefully. I don't want to be your unpaid customer service rep anymore and neither do the 40 other people that I asked.
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15-Sep-2016 01:08:24 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 01:36:00 by Sea King

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New Years said:
Motherland and I both decided to add to kos because thats what he wanted @Ramsesses. IM not going to let him ruin my reputation. At the time of the issues that were occurring he suggested you be put on KOS and both agreed.


Your reputation is defined by what your actions. All promotions and bans had to be authorized by YOU since YOU have control over all the levers (the account in-game, the forums). I brought issues that I felt were important to your attention and you had the final say.
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15-Sep-2016 01:17:01

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(wrote a ton of stuff, but what's the point?)
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15-Sep-2016 06:04:00 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 07:52:54 by Sea King

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^You guys have fun. Since I don't have any responsibilities as a glorified unpaid customer rep anymore, I hope you guys don't bother me any more with late night messages and I won't bother you by snapping any "twigs".

What happened to me is akin to the tech guy who runs the game servers telling the owners of the company that the owners aren't doing what he likes and therefore has decided to take over with his login credentials. In real life, there would have been legal contracts to prevent this sort of thing from happening; in RS, it's just based purely on trust.

Bye. Don't expect another post from me on this thread because I have said my bit and won't bother reading what's just going to be more nastiness that's really someone else's job to read now.


Just forget it. Rule #1 on RS: keep what you own on your account no matter what anyone promises you like "co-ownership". Can't own a single pixel of a blue phat if I can't log into the account that has it; can't own any part of a FC if I can't log into the account with that name. I forgot about that rule. Everyone else saw it right away and acted accordingly knowing that there was nothing I could do about it and I got what I deserved.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

15-Sep-2016 06:29:21 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 08:00:41 by Sea King

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^

"Bye!" = I will be back soon.

Boy am I glad I don't have to deal with this sort of nonsense anymore. It really shouldn't deign a polite response. I don't envy the guy who has to parse these comments and figure out a reply. You thought there would be peace and happily-ever-after ending with my absence? The only difference is now you are replying to trolls instead of me.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

18-Sep-2016 19:54:34

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^

Lol, what did I say? The troll complaints and "contributions" never end. With no more co-owner to serve as the scapegoat, the flaming/blaming is redirected at the FC account owner. Now you understand why he drove me crazy?
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

20-Sep-2016 01:01:55

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With me gone, I told you that three things will happen: 1) the "contributions" won't stop (just ask trips); 2) the remaining co-owner will have to deal with "contributions" and whatnot; 3) TH rares are as dead as they were before. All you did was get rid of a loyal friend who was willing to stand by you to the end, through thick and thin. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

20-Sep-2016 01:19:08

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^I used to read Trump vs. Hillary yelling at each other. That got stale pretty fast. Now I read this clan thread and the other one run by trips. It's nice to enjoy the show from the sidelines. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

20-Sep-2016 06:48:01

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^And the struggle carries on ...

See what I had to shoulder and put up with?

Normally, people would say this is a million dollar question or problem. I'd call it the 350m problem you got yourself.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

21-Sep-2016 08:21:33

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Master Rocky said:
1.5 Ban List

The FC ban list is determined at the sole discretion of the FC owner. Any player may be banned from the FC for any reason at any time in order to maintain order in the FC.

Lee M
Trips
Motherland
New Years
ELITE STACK
Wardje
Utmost
Elitecosby


I just saw this. If you guys don't like, ask him to remove your name from it.
If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

23-Sep-2016 08:22:22

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