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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. It would be similar to having a bank safe deposit box irl, so let's call this idea a Bank Safe Deposit Box where we can keep our most valuable items and gp.

A. We could put away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time.

B. We could put away an item or items for a set amount of time; say 3, 6, 12 or 24 months or permanently.

- We would pay for the privilege to use this Bank Safe Deposit Box.

- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.

- The Bank Safe Deposit Box is for protecting your items of value, that are precious to you or for saving up your gp for something special. You would still be able to use the items in your Bank Safe Deposit Box in everyday RuneScape play except for combat situations.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

Why won't this be brought in-game as a peace of mind for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish, that are precious to us? This is not to be used as security for your account or used instead of security for your account.

I know we have semi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as a Bank Safe Deposit Box.
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23-Mar-2019 11:43:49 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:13:16 by Dong U Dead

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The hacker gets hold of your account, you still have items in your account that you value - it's not all lost.

The only reason a hacker has gets hold of your account is to drop all your profitable possessions if they are locked to your account you won't have lost it all.

I would also like a separate money holder where you can hold money for 3 - 24 months and this also can't be broken until the times up <- we could do this for items as well.

This is a good money maker for Jagex as well. As I am sure people would pay for protection of items/gp.
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23-Mar-2019 13:04:44 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:01:36 by Dong U Dead

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what about in a pvp situation? (ik pvp but) if i was lock zgs etc to my account and i die in pvp with it what will happen then?

As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or used in combat.

The items I am thinking of are items that are precious to you some may have value others maybe not.

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23-Mar-2019 13:45:49 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 14:08:08 by Dong U Dead

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This is a good money maker for Jagex as well. As I am sure people would pay for protection of items/gp.

The only people who would pay for this are those who don't understand account security well enough, and so they would be much better off being educated about how to really secure their accounts. As to moneymaking itself, sure, Jagex might make some extra money from this, but it'd be a scam that exploits those who don't know any better.



I have very good account security, I don't go to dodgy sites or click on links but shit still can happen. Plus you may have others that use your PC, such as family members - your account is as safe as your pc and if you have others on your pc that is young, learning, don't give a dang - whatever extra measures can't be harmful as shit can happen to the best of us.
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23-Mar-2019 13:49:30 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 13:54:12 by Dong U Dead

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clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.


then hackers can get them

True, then remove this clause :D

*it's 3am in the morning I am half asleep, so my thoughts aren't completely clear, nor is my typing.
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23-Mar-2019 13:51:56 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 13:57:00 by Dong U Dead

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As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or there is a clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.

If they weren't saved on those areas, then the hacker could just grief you and destroy your locked items, with the mentality that "if I [the hacker] can't have your items, then neither can you". Because like said, hackers like to grief their victims, even those who primarily do it for money.

And it's not just PvP areas either: any area in the game where you can die to monsters would be just as conflicting, because double graving is a thing. How would you solve that?

You can't destroy locked items, if they are locked to your account and can't be used in pvp type areas.
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23-Mar-2019 13:55:48

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As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or there is a clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.

The items I am thinking of are items that are precious to you some may have value others maybe not.


So, in essence, this would limit where ppl could use their items?

You would choose which items you would want to be locked. I would use it on one item at this stage.
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23-Mar-2019 13:59:09

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As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or there is a clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.

If they weren't saved on those areas, then the hacker could just grief you and destroy your locked items, with the mentality that "if I [the hacker] can't have your items, then neither can you". Because like said, hackers like to grief their victims, even those who primarily do it for money.

And it's not just PvP areas either: any area in the game where you can die to monsters would be just as conflicting, because double graving is a thing. How would you solve that?

You can't destroy locked items, if they are locked to your account and can't be used in pvp type areas.

Items can be destroyed by double graving: dying with them, not reclaiming them, then dying again with other items, so that the previous ones get deleted.

What??
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23-Mar-2019 13:59:36

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Remember, most of us are already paying $11 a month to play the game, and the currently available security methods are free, so any new ones should be free as well if you're a paying member.[/snow]

Like anything you pay extra for, this is another one, one that is a choice, one you don't have to have, one you may not have items you want to be locked to your account.

Once it's locked to your account that is it, there is no turning back, there is no combat with this item unless you keepsake it.
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23-Mar-2019 14:05:46

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clause locked items used in this areas will not be saved.


then hackers can get them

True, then remove this clause :D

*it's 3am in the morning I am half asleep, so my thoughts aren't completely clear, nor is my typing.


maybe sleep then rethink this whole idea

No, I like this whole idea.

I just lasped with the combat side of it, we all make mistakes I am sure you do to.
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23-Mar-2019 14:06:28

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Like anything you pay extra for, this is another one, one that is a choice, one you don't have to have, one you may not have items you want to be locked to your account.

Once it's locked to your account that is it, there is no turning back, there is no combat with this item unless you keepsake it.


Its also one that doesnt/shouldnt happen.

why not?

If it's worded by Jagex so it's clear and understandable that the items that you lock to your account will be locked for the life of the account and that you can not combat with the locked item there is nothing to not like.
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23-Mar-2019 14:12:20

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Like anything you pay extra for, this is another one, one that is a choice, one you don't have to have, one you may not have items you want to be locked to your account.

Once it's locked to your account that is it, there is no turning back, there is no combat with this item unless you keepsake it.

Remember back at the beginning when we talked about "regret"? Sure, this would be a "choice", but as with many choices in life, people sometimes regret their choices later, because they couldn't foresee the consequences at the time. E.g. when noxious staff was still best-in-slot, someone might've thought "I might as well permalock this to my account, since I'm always going to use it", until it no longer was BiS, at which point they would've wanted it back... except they no longer couldn't, leaving them with a useless item they no longer need.

And do you realize just what it'd mean in practice if the permalocked items could no longer be used in combat? Because combat can happen even outside PvP, it'd quite heavily restrict the use of the item. Most people would probably permalock their combat equipment, which then literally couldn't be used in combat, making them useless.

Honestly, as Tenebri suggested:


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maybe sleep then rethink this whole idea

Why would you lock an item if you want to use it in combat O_o

and your first point locking an item (noxious staff) because you are always going to use it - you wouldn't lock it in the first place because once you have locked it you can't use it for combat O_o
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Why would you lock an item if you want to use it in combat O_o

and your first point locking an item (noxious staff) because you are always going to use it - you wouldn't lock it in the first place because once you have locked it you can't use it for combat O_o

The core idea with your suggestion is that the hacker wouldn't get your high value items: for many people, that is their combat equipment, such as their noxious weapons, or their T92s if they're that rich. You didn't even realize the conflicting issues with combat at first, so a random person coming to this thread, who only reads the first post(s), would think that they could permalock their combat gear without consequence, since you haven't even edited your opening post to reflect the things we've discussed.

Seriously though: if it's true that you're half-asleep at the moment, then go sleep, come back later and rethink this completely. Because replying to bits and pieces isn't going anywhere.

I would love to protect high-end gear and weapons but it's not feasible as each time you combat its a gamble if the items are lost or not.
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23-Mar-2019 14:57:58

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As Blackwing has pointed out, people would almost certainly change their minds later, or perma-lock the wrong item by accident, and want Jagex to undo it. As soon as there's an option to undo the perma-lock, then it becomes no more "secure" or "permanent" than the other options we already have.


You will have to make sure that what you lock is what you truly wanted to be locked. You choose to lock your phat or Santa or ..... that is it, it's locked for the life of the account.

The only way to get around this is to put a lock on an item for a set amount of time say 3 - 24 months and then you would need to repeat - which is another option that I would be very happy with.
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23-Mar-2019 15:03:35 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:03:43 by Dong U Dead

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I would love to protect high-end gear and weapons but it's not feasible as each time you combat its a gamble if the items are lost or not.


Please start actually reading what ppl say.

I am reading - but as I said this idea isn't for stuff you use on a daily bases for combat, I wish there was a simple solution to protect high-end combat gear, but there isn't.
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23-Mar-2019 15:05:15

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This isn't some revolutionary idea that has never been used before. I'm not sure why people are jumping all over this idea, as though it has never been used in an MMO before.

World of Warcraft has a very similar system; soulbound items.

When you equip the item, you're given a warning that the item will bind to your account if you proceed.

It's not done for security reasons (it's done to keep the game from being flooded with certain equipment), but, the concept is basically the same.

Except that she's proposing weapons and equipment to be excluded, and for it to be restricted to items of wealth... which would defeat the purpose of preserving wealth on the account.

At least that's what I deciphered from her sleep-deprived posts.

No, I am not, you can lock anything you desire. It's to protect anything you hold dearly.

As previously mentioned if it's an item you use often for combat then you would not lock this item to your account.
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23-Mar-2019 16:15:33 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 16:18:02 by Dong U Dead

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As previously mentioned if it's an item you use often for combat then you would not lock this item to your account.
The same way you wouldn't keepsake an item you regularly use for combat.

I don't see an issue with the concept.

It would be the same as keepsaking an item, except you could still use the item for it's intended purpose.

If they use the locked item for combat it can be lost, which means if your account was hijacked the locked item would be lost so the point of having the locked item to an account is lost.
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23-Mar-2019 16:26:56

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If your account is as secure as it can be and you are cautious about phishing scams, all of your items are essentially locked to your account because no one should be able to compromise it. ;)

even the best of account can become compromised, this is an extra bit of piece for those items that are rare, precious to you etc. Nothing wrong with more options.

Even having the option of locking an item up to 12 months. Being able to lock away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time - nothing bad can come from this, it's just another avenue to protect those special items or gp you have worked hard for. Paying for the privilege to do so.
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I am reading - but as I said this idea isn't for stuff you use on a daily bases for combat, I wish there was a simple solution to protect high-end combat gear, but there isn't.



You clearly aren't as ppl have said just get better security then there wouldn't be any need for this.

This isn't about security. This is an option to lock items to your account, it's just like having A safe deposit box irl bank. It's extra coverage for those special items.
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24-Mar-2019 00:05:43

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Reworded opening post:


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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. It would be similar to having a bank safe deposit box irl, so let's call this idea a Bank Safe Deposit Box where we can keep our most valuable items and gp.

A. We could put away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time.

B. We could put away an item/s for a set amount of time or permanently.

- We would pay for the privilege to use this Bank Safe Deposit Box.

- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.

- The Bank Safe Deposit Box is for protecting your items of value, that are precious to you or for saving up your gp for something special. You would still be able to use the items in your Bank Safe Deposit Box in everyday RuneScape play except for combat areas.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

Why won't this be brought in-game as extra security for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish?

I know we have semi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as a Bank Safe Deposit Box.
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24-Mar-2019 00:27:47 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 01:57:09 by Dong U Dead

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Tophurious said:
unecessary and complicated and confusing suggestion with no real benefits.

Lots of benefits, you can save and protect your gp, you can protect the items that are valuable to you.

In what way is it complicated? You go to Solomon Store and buy 6 locks for 12 months for X amount of money. You buy 1 lock for lifetime protection for X amount of money. You buy 12 pack lock for 6 months for X amount of money <- simple!

Very much a necessity, it's a peace of mind on items and gp you have worked hard for knowing if your account became compromised for whatever reason as it can happen to the best of players with all the security in place.

This suggestion would be well worth a devs time as it will pay for itself.
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Thanks Tuffty


- Combat items are not excluded from this, the only problem is locked items can't be used in combat scenarios where items could be lost. There is no way to protect combat items as far as I can tell. I wish there was.

- This is not a form of security, this should not be used as security. This a peace of mind for the player, if they choose to spend money on protecting an item or more they can. This is a choice, this is not going to protect your account Jagex already has steps in place for this. This is an extra that you can purchase from the Solomons store which is up to individuals to buy. You don't have to buy.

- There would be options to buy maybe 3 months, 6 months, 12 months item locks. I would like a lifetime lock if possible. It would be your choice to which lock you would buy. Jagex would need to explain that locked items will not work in combat situations or in the wilderness, possibly going as far as a tick box to say they have read and understood they will not be able to trade or combat locked items.
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25-Mar-2019 11:31:59 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 11:49:46 by Dong U Dead

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Reworded opening post:

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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. It would be similar to having a bank safe deposit box irl, so let's call this idea a Bank Safe Deposit Box where we can keep our most valuable items and gp.

A. We could put away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time.

B. We could put away an item or items for a set amount of time; say 3, 6, 12 or 24 months or permanently.

- We would pay for the privilege to use this Bank Safe Deposit Box.

- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.

- The Bank Safe Deposit Box is for protecting your items of value, that are precious to you or for saving up your gp for something special. You would still be able to use the items in your Bank Safe Deposit Box in everyday RuneScape play except for combat situations.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

Why won't this be brought in-game as a peace of mind for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish, that are precious to us? This is not to be used as security for your account or used instead of security for your account.

I know we have semi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as a Bank Safe Deposit Box.
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25-Mar-2019 11:51:38 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:12:46 by Dong U Dead

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It is protecting an item or several items depending on how much you spend, depending on how many locks you buy.
It is not to be used as security for RuneScape accounts
as it only protects the items you have locked. It is a
peace of mind
for our special items, it only protects one or more items depending on how many items you have chosen to lock.
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25-Mar-2019 12:21:57 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 14:32:44 by Dong U Dead

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Tophurious said:
this very much sounds like a security suggestion but you keep insisting it isn't.

It is protecting an item or several items depending on how many locks you use or your gp. It's your choice if you choose to spend money on this or not. Locking items
CAN NOT SECURE YOUR BANK, THIS CAN NOT SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT
. It can only protect as many items as you choose too depending on how many locks you buy and use.

This is not account security
, I do not want people believing this will protect your account as it won't. This item can not protect your account. It can only protect one item or gp, if you buy more locks it will protect a few items.
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25-Mar-2019 13:46:39 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 14:36:44 by Dong U Dead

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Hopefully, you have good security on your pc and account/s.

If your account does become compromised the Hijacker usually drops or takes things of value and gp. In threads I often hear I lost 100 million, I lost 250 million, I lost everything in my inventory, they took everything of value out of my bank. With this idea you can have peace of mind on specific pieces of items - not all is lost.

Yes you will still need to rebuild your account, but you will know that you have 20 million or 250 million or however much gp you put away in your safe deposit box, you will need to wait for however long you locked your gp for in your safe deposit box before you can get it <- this is better than the account hijacker getting hold of everything, at least you will have gp safely put away, not all is lost.

All your combat items will come back if you chose a time limit lock, you will need to wait for a specific amount of time to get them back <- this is a hell of a lot better than losing everything and rebuilding everything from scratch. You would have already known when you brought this item that combat gear you can not use in the wilderness or in areas where you can die where items are lost if worn.

Some players lose millions, even billions in gp and items - you imagine if you can lock your phats, lock your santa hats, lock extra combat gear, lock your gp, etc. This idea is a win-win situation - there is nothing negative with it.

There are threads every day about accounts being hijacked, so you may still get threads my account got hijacked and I still have 4 months to wait before I can get my items, this is not fair bla, bla, bla <- they knew before using the locked item that there will be a waiting period before you can get your gp, items back.
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25-Mar-2019 20:02:54 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 20:04:53 by Dong U Dead

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@Tenebri -Not sure what you are on about. If you put your Santa hats into a safe deposit box there may have been a chance that your items would have been safe.

If you buy the lock for 12 months and you stay away for 2 years and come back with all items missing - the items are only protected for the amount of time you have them locked.

I would just like to add items that are locked should not have any date associated with it, so the hijacker won't know when item/s or gp will become unlocked <- just extra protection.
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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. It would be similar to having a bank safe deposit box irl, so let's call this idea a Bank Safe Deposit Box where we can keep our most valuable items and gp.

A. We could put away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time.

B. We could put away an item or items for a set amount of time; say 3, 6, 12 or 24 months or permanently.

- We would pay for the privilege to use this Bank Safe Deposit Box.

- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.

- The Bank Safe Deposit Box is for protecting your items of value, that are precious to you or for saving up your gp for something special. You would still be able to use the items in your Bank Safe Deposit Box in everyday RuneScape play except for combat situations.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

Why won't this be brought in-game as a peace of mind for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish, that are precious to us? This is not to be used as security for your account or used instead of security for your account.

I know we have semi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as a Bank Safe Deposit Box.
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@Draco Burnz, you have been here from the opening post, I have already answered your question/s, stop spamming and trolling, please. You don't support, I understand, please move on unless you have something to add.


@Tenebri, yes it would work and no, people won't be stuck in their decisions unless they chose the permanent lock, which would be their choice. All facts about the item will be known to the buyer before purchase. It's a win-win situation in my eyes.
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Can you Tophurious & Tenebri stop trolling and spamming this thread. You have made your point, you don't like the idea which is fine. You both need to move along. I have answered all your queries, you both just keep twisting your words around to make new questions or points to dis the idea - this idea is not gambling, you are not going to miss out, you are going to have protected items.
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26-Mar-2019 07:06:42

Dong U Dead

Dong U Dead

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I have not said once you cannot protect rares or high-end combat gear, the whole point of this is to protect your items. The sad fact is high-end combat gear that you use would not be able to be protected, I am not saying you can't protect high-end combat gear at all if you are not using the gear at this stage, if you are going on vacation or leaving the game for whatever reason you would be able to protect your gear for a certain length of time.

There a lot of players who don't want to sell there rares and for peace of mind you will be able to protect said items. There are items in my bank I am not using at the moment, millions of dollars worth, been sitting there for years, I have no intention of selling them - I could have them protected.

This idea is for protection, it is simple, it can be for as long or as short a time as you chose. If you want to sit on items they could be protected for as little as 3 months or maybe as long as a couple of years.

I can't see anything negative about this idea.

I would love for this idea to be available.

I would love this idea to be able to protect all items in your bank.
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Locked Bank Items

26-Mar-2019 22:03:56

Dong U Dead

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Draco Burnz said:
^In the OP you said cb gear cant be put into them:

Dong U Dead said:


- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.


Also while there are a fair amount of ppl who don't want to sell their rares, what if they later change their minds?

Is there an unlock option for this?

Also what if I do buy a 3 month option and within 2 months want to sell it?

I never said you can't put protection on Combat Gear, I said it wouldn't work.

If a person changes there mind they will need to wait for the period is up. If you want to sell something you will need to wait for the period to be up. If you put something on permanent lock, that was your choice to do that, nothing can be done about it. Before you chose to lock an item you read and understood the rules behind doing so - if this is not for you, you would not use it, if you buy and sell items often you would not use it.

I have answered everything more than once throughout the thread. It's a shame moderator can't stop you from trolling peoples threads because you don't agree or don't like the op. But from now on I will not be responding to the two of you or anyone else that trolls this thread.
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Locked Bank Items

27-Mar-2019 00:45:05

Dong U Dead

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Tenebri said:
Dong U Dead said:
If a person changes there mind they will need to wait for the period is up. If you want to sell something you will need to wait for the period to be up


and this is a huge issue as to why i cant support it

I believe it is worth every ounce.

I would rather have 20, 100 or 200 million gp in waiting than with the hacker. I would rather have my Santa hat in waiting rather than with the hacker. I would rather have my phat in waiting (if I had one) rather than with the hacker. I would rather have my 100 million worth of 'this' item (could be any items such as nests, air stuff components, logs etc) in waiting than with the hacker and so on...

This is foolproof and to be able to have extra protection can only be good.
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Locked Bank Items

27-Mar-2019 16:17:54

Dong U Dead

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14 pages in and you are still here Tenebri arguing and making ridiculous claims - you don't support, move on. Let this go. Stop trolling.

If a person had 4000000000b gp, the person could put part of the money away, I never mentioned you needed to put it all away, like items, you can put all stuff away safely or part of your stuff you are not using at the moment or haven't used in years, but want to sit on it <-I have stuff in my bank like that I am sure others do too. You might be going on Vacation or away for a year or so and want to be secure in your thoughts that you will come back to all valuables and gp - there are numbers of reasons why this would be good.

You don't' support, move on Tenebri, you have said your argument against it, we all know your thoughts. Stop trolling my thread.
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