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Goinmental

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Hello, I'm looking for suggestions on parts for my first pc build. Specifically the chip,motherboard and graphics card.
Runescape is the only game I play and I'd like to play it on the highest settings. This build will be centered around runescape.
I'll be using 3 24" monitors. The main game monitor, I've yet to purchase, will be 1080p 144hz tn. I'd like to be able to stream, use two accounts, have webpages open, discord, record gameplay, watch Netflix, lightroom, photoshop and run a virtual machine. Not all at the same time but a few. I'll also have 5.1 surround sound.
I have no brand loyalty.
I would like to keep it as inexpensive as possible without sacrificing anything.
Thanks in advance.

26-Jan-2019 22:04:55

Pinguicula

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I'm not sure how familiar you are with PC hardware but you did say this is your first PC build. I guess by "chip" you meant CPU. The NXT RuneScape client is less dependent on the CPU than the legacy Java based client. It won't make a difference if you get an AMD or Intel CPU. A Core i3 released in the last couple years or better (or AMD equivalent) should have no trouble running one NXT RuneScape client. However, if you're running different programs at the same time you'd probably want something better. I'm not really familiar with the recommendations for Lightroom and Photoshop.

The motherboard doesn't matter for RS. However, for performance of the operating system and a few chosen programs (including RuneScape) a board that supports an m.2 SSD would be nice. A 250 GB SSD would be sufficient. If you need a lot more space for things like recordings or photos you can add a mechanical hard drive. Or, if you don't want to mess with a dual drive system then you can get a board that supports using an SSD or Optane for caching of a single large capacity mechanical hard drive.

An Nvidia Geforce 1060 or AMD equivalent is often recommended for running the NXT RuneScape client with the highest settings on one screen. Seems like RuneScape uses a lot of graphical processing power for the graphics we get from the game. I'm not sure what you will need for running two clients at the same time at highest settings with 3 screen plugged in.

You didn't say what hypervisor you plan to use for your virtual machine or what you plan to do with your virtual machine. Seems like most motherboards (BIOS) and CPUs have basic support for virtual machines but some motherboards and CPUs support more virtual machine related features than others.

Wait a bit and some other people might post their suggests for you.

27-Jan-2019 00:13:37 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2019 00:15:17 by Pinguicula

Moneybucks
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Goinmental said:

I would like to keep it as inexpensive as possible without sacrificing anything.


Bit of a contradiction in terms no? Have you seen the price of graphics cards at the moment? Maxxed out memory fabrication and (now thankfully declining) interest in cryptocurrency has pushed them sky high. It may well be your single most expensive component, if we exclude peripherals. Agree with Pingu on the GTX 1060, but make sure you don't get one of the newer 3GB variants - get the 6GB version, or a 1070ti if you can swallow the uplift. I would differ in specifically recommending Nvidia rather than ATI however; not through any loyalty, but because AMD were scaling back from graphics around the time that generation of cards was released to focus on their processor product lines, and it shows through less compelling graphics cards relative to Nvidia. Disappointing, as I usually prefer AMD, and ended up buying an Nvidia, but heyho. Make sure it supports your monitor interfaces/numbers.

If you're going to be running VMs, and you failed to state just what you were going to be doing with them, then you'll possibly want more than an i3 processor - i5 usuallly seems the target for most people building a machine at the moment, check the Intel page to ensure it supports the advanced virtualisation settings (as not all of them do). i5/i3 etc is just a high level category - for the specific models that are in favour, read up on the reviews on system building forums and look at what offers best value/price balance for you. Obviously, if you're running a hypervisor and multiple VMs, consider this in RAM sizing (which I'd recommend be no less than 8GB in total in any case).

Surround sound - consider a real sound card, and analogue headset. It is far better, but if it's a matter of price, don't worry too much about that. A separate discussion entirely could be had around sound and audio...
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27-Jan-2019 08:42:54 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2019 08:44:35 by Moneybucks

Sjm1992003a

Sjm1992003a

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I heard that it is something like Vt-x vt-d for intel and IOMMU for AMD, but that is what I heard long ago
and whether it support those features depend on chipset and the cpu itself
If I have remembered correctly, I heard that Intel CPU runs VM better

The other people also said that AMD Ryzen run much worse than Intel CPU on Adobe's software even if Ryzen is not much behind Intel in other software
AMD's 7nm Zen2 (Ryzen 3000 series) CPU is coming very soon, it should be better than Intel's 14nm CPU (Samsung and TSMC 7nm EUV should be on par with Intel 10nm)

I think 6 cores CPU is definitely what you should be looking for,
you should also grab 16GB RAM (8GB is not enough for multi-tasking especially for professional software and VM)
multiple monitor also consume more vRAM of your graphics card
NAND is now very cheap, a 500GB SSD is not expensive

27-Jan-2019 13:57:55 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2019 02:17:05 by Sjm1992003a

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