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Unrealkilla
Jul Member 2019

Unrealkilla

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If Jagex wants any hope at keeping the game popular and relevant at least the new version of the game and not OSRS there are a few things they need to do.


First remove treasure hunter as most players are opposed to it in every way and it ruins competition.

Second stop releasing only content and updates for end game players. The last update they announced said it would be to declutter and help streamline the new player experience, one thing that definitely has to happen to attract new players to the game.


Third, when jagex transitioned from rs classic to rs2 they did so on an entirely new engine, revamped the entire game which consequently made everyone start over, realistically this would make plenty of players mad unless they were to add some kind of incentive, as well as leaving some older servers up for those that did not wish to accept the change. While i do not feel 3 versions of the game is a good idea, i do think for a game as old as runescape does need a restart to bring it back to life.

I'm still an RS3 player, i have played since RSC days and do not want to see this game die of old age or people stuck in an older version of this game because the new one is "P2W". Jagex needs to seriously think about competition in the MMORPG world and how it is going to survive and p2w is not going to save them. Dial back the efficiency that your updates keep implementing, make max stats an accomplishment and not a race to max or completionist.


Please jagex, release RS4 and save the game and your company.

28-Aug-2019 16:38:30 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2019 16:43:57 by Unrealkilla

Blackwing
Nov Member 2012

Blackwing

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Unrealkilla said:
First remove treasure hunter as most players are opposed to it in every way and it ruins competition.

Agreed.


Unrealkilla said:
Second stop releasing only content and updates for end game players. The last update they announced said it would be to declutter and help streamline the new player experience, one thing that definitely has to happen to attract new players to the game.

This is important as well but first, they should actually slow down the early and midgame progression, because even if you added content to those levels, with the current level of powercreep you wouldn't stay long to play it.
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28-Aug-2019 16:42:45

Dilbert2001
Jun Gold Premier Club Member 2006

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There is no RS4, although there will be another "unannounced MMO", a next gen Action RPG and other Runescape titled franchise games.

I believe all the other new games will not be just merely "reboot" or new servers of Jagex's current RS3 and OSRS. They will be very different and all players can play all of these games with their own choices. They won't be forced to move to the other games.

All popular online games have MTX. A lot of them have RNG based mechanics or even an entire online full service casino with room and board services for VIPs and high rollers. It is just how these game remain popular. They need surprise mechanics and even the ones who complained about going broke spinning the wheel admitted they love it. :D

Jagex's games are already very relevant and in fact will be even more relevant when RS3 Mobile is released some date in 2019, as per Fukong's Jagex Financial Reports in their last 6 months. Revenue was up close to 40% while after tax net profits were up over 26% with members count going over the 1.1. million marks.

Fukong further praised Jagex's relevancy by showing off Runescape's Guinness World Records and the promising future of Mobile games with Newzoo's report in the industry.

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28-Aug-2019 16:58:20

Untrimslay
Sep Member 2016

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Its 5% of the player base spending 99% of the money - as long as this keeps happening, they'll never stop. Even if 95% of people quit, they'll only lose 1% of their revenue, so why stop?

Personally, i dont care for MTX anymore. The PvP element of the game is dead, probably the only part of the game you are actively punished if you cannot compete with a bunch of maxed guys in maxed gear who brought it all for IRL money.

28-Aug-2019 17:08:20

Unrealkilla
Jul Member 2019

Unrealkilla

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Dilbert, while i agree a lot of games have MTX in this day and age this absolutely devastates the idea of having a sense of achievement in skills you actually put in work to earn. It makes a leaderboard essentially pointless in terms of competition, if you are going to allow MTX then at least remove those said players from eligibility to be on the leaderboard, unless it is purely cosmetic based.


You can say the evidence is in the numbers in terms of profits but then disregard the effect that MTX has on profits, of course profits are at a record high with MTX, the new accounts stats also arent a clear reflection with a lot of players deciding to create alt accounts like ironmen and such being that this is relatively new to rs. When looking at current player counts you can see its only at 15-20k at most given times whereas osrs sits at three to four times that, despite being the inferior game.


So yes allow MTX if it is a necessary evil, but lock those people out of leaderboards or create a separate statistic for "unranked" based accounts. There are lots of solutions that aren't half measures in keeping your player base and not alienating a lot of players.

28-Aug-2019 17:09:30 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2019 17:10:55 by Unrealkilla

Dilbert2001
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Unrealkilla said:
Dilbert, while i agree a lot of games have MTX in this day and age this absolutely devastates the idea of having a sense of achievement in skills you actually put in work to earn. It makes a leaderboard essentially pointless in terms of competition, if you are going to allow MTX then at least remove those said players from eligibility to be on the leaderboard, unless it is purely cosmetic based.


You can say the evidence is in the numbers in terms of profits but then disregard the effect that MTX has on profits, of course profits are at a record high with MTX, the new accounts stats also arent a clear reflection with a lot of players deciding to create alt accounts like ironmen and such being that this is relatively new to rs. When looking at current player counts you can see its only at 15-20k at most given times whereas osrs sits at three to four times that, despite being the inferior game.


So yes allow MTX if it is a necessary evil, but lock those people out of leaderboards or create a separate statistic for "unranked" based accounts. There are lots of solutions that aren't half measures in keeping your player base and not alienating a lot of players.


They can't remove anybody from any "leadership" boards because they will have to remove anybody who use Bonds first. Besides, they have many "leadership" boards incluidng Achievements that are not determined by xp/levels.

If paying with Bonds and TH to get into the "leadership" boards is not fair then why is using third party client to gain advantages over the others to get into "leadership" boards is fair?

There is no absolutely fairness in Jagex's game since 2012. No point to cry over it now in 2019. In 2019 we play for fun, and we should glad that the RS3 "leadership" boards are more fair because of no 3rd party client abuses and a lot of new Achievements unlike xp/level, that can't be bought directly with money.

28-Aug-2019 17:20:41

Unrealkilla
Jul Member 2019

Unrealkilla

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Neither should be acceptable. Paying your way for levels or using a 3rd pty client. I'm not sure when this became acceptable in gaming, i guess this is what the newer generation is okay with in terms of healthy fun competition that you can just pay your way or unfairly use a crutch somehow to gain an upper hand?

This is the sole reason RS is dying because this is being ignored, im not sure where that is hard to understand?

28-Aug-2019 17:27:36

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