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Kings Abbot

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No, I'm not interested in the poop of a frost dragon...

I've set my mind on completing the free-to-play achievement 'Up to the Gods'. I need to kill a frost dragon on a frozen Dungeoneering floor (must be in a solo dungeon!) and offer its bones on an altar.
I know these frost dragons are very rare (even more when doing it solo), and the Wiki recommends starting a new floor (medium to increase the chance of finding an altar, I do large ones to increase it even further), opening all the doors of the starting room, leave again if there's no dragon and repeat.

In all those years I have done Dungeoneering I have never encountered one. How rare is it to find one? One in a thousand? One in a million? One in a googol? How long can it take on average to find one? As they are probably quite large (4x4 squares I guess?) they don't fit in just any room, making it even harder to encounter one...
Are there ways of increasing the chance of one spawning (apart from not going alone but the achievement forbids it)? Do they spawn more often near the end of the Frozen Floors? Is there a way to know there's one in the dungeon before finding its room? (probably not, but who knows?)

I don't want to do this day in day out for months before I find one and kill it in a dungeon that doesn't contain an altar...
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13-Aug-2019 13:49:37

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i would say for the sake of simplicity, just do medium floors and then floors 1-11 (only frozen floors) and just rush those. i think you should be done in maybe 2 hours. Having said that you could get extremely unlucky and just waste hours upon hours chasing this one.

For special requirements i don't think you need anything except acces to floors 1-11 which i guess you got :p Good luck on this task :)
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13-Aug-2019 13:58:57

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I'm at 120 DG and still haven't been able to complete that achievement. Then again I do only small frozen floors because their XP is horrible to begin with, so maybe with mediums you'll have more luck.
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13-Aug-2019 14:01:43

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Furry Death said:
i would say for the sake of simplicity, just do medium floors and then floors 1-11 (only frozen floors) and just rush those.


Doesn't it take longer to open all the doors in one dungeon than just opening the starting room doors again and again? My gut tells me the latter has a larger room-opening rate.

Furry Death said:

Keep in mind that it would still breathe fire since it is a dragon so buy a shield from the merch on the floor!


The Wiki warned about that too, yet I still have the feeling I'll forget it and start the fight using my zephyrium 2h instead. The same happened with Elvarg and my full adamant many years ago...

Fire Hawk154 said:
I'm at 120 DG and still haven't been able to complete that achievement.


I am suddenly very discouraged in trying to complete it...
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13-Aug-2019 15:09:01 - Last edited on 13-Aug-2019 15:09:13 by Kings Abbot

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Kings Abbot said:

Doesn't it take longer to open all the doors in one dungeon than just opening the starting room doors again and again? My gut tells me the latter has a larger room-opening rate.


In my experience (and i do complete floors rushing them) i have encountered a few frost dragons, in my recollection almost all of them behind key doors. which would make medium floors pretty good as they are not as complicated an long as large floors which can be a giant pain due to skill doors.
also you don't need to encounter an altar you can build one in the group teleport thingy in the homeroom (though you need a certain construction level and i am not sure what level that is)

i will test this theorie in a few hours when i get online and see with which i first encounter a frost dragonboi :)

13-Aug-2019 15:23:34

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^ As I'm free-to-play, I can't make an altar myself.
Having done quite some medium floors in the past, I remember that not all dungeons have one, so large floors should have a higher chance of having an altar. There's also a higher chance that the starting room is not in a corner or side and thus a higher chance of more doors to open.

I'd be nice if there was some mechanism that tells you if there's one, like finding an anti-dragon shield in the starting room means there is a frost dragon somewhere. Even if it's behind a door I can't open due to skill requirements, it would make it faster finding one.
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13-Aug-2019 15:42:26

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To be honest, the best chance to find any dragons in F2P DG is a team of 5:5 maxed players or high combat lv players! Because of the stronger players together will make the DG floors much harder to complete, will spawn stronger monsters easily in DG and the chance to find a dragon is greatly increased! Once a frost dragon is found, say to your team all leave the DG party, making it you being alone left in the DG floor then it counts as 1:1 solo! My goals and achievements on F2P accounts! ---> Thread! <---

13-Aug-2019 20:02:16

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333333333 said:
To be honest, the best chance to find any dragons in F2P DG is a team of 5:5 maxed players or high combat lv players! Because of the stronger players together will make the DG floors much harder to complete, will spawn stronger monsters easily in DG and the chance to find a dragon is greatly increased! Once a frost dragon is found, say to your team all leave the DG party, making it you being alone left in the DG floor then it counts as 1:1 solo!
I don't think this method works.

OT: It wasn't a fun experience. Good luck.

14-Aug-2019 02:30:46

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Nosediggerno said:
333333333 said:
To be honest, the best chance to find any dragons in F2P DG is a team of 5:5 maxed players or high combat lv players! Because of the stronger players together will make the DG floors much harder to complete, will spawn stronger monsters easily in DG and the chance to find a dragon is greatly increased! Once a frost dragon is found, say to your team all leave the DG party, making it you being alone left in the DG floor then it counts as 1:1 solo!
I don't think this method works.


Neither do I. It has to be a solo dungeon, so I'll have to start solo.

Your reasoning makes sense though, a higher combat level should spawn them faster. Maybe the later frozen floors also have a larger chance as I believe they are mean to be a bit harder.
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14-Aug-2019 10:54:24

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Kings Abbot said:

Your reasoning makes sense though, a higher combat level should spawn them faster. Maybe the later frozen floors also have a larger chance as I believe they are mean to be a bit harder.


Previously yes, but Jagex broke combat scaling so even with 126 combat the majority of mobs in a solo are below 30 combat. Since frost dragons are level 43, they became much less likely to spawn.
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