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Dilbert2001
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Iso Decoder said:
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Iso Decoder said:
@ Dilbert

The black stone cannot be the cause of Mah becoming an invalid or the decline of Elder God’s for Xau Tak’s god hood tier is far lower than Elder Gods. In fact, even lower than the god tiers of young gods.


No players know who Xau-Tak is actually. There were even many people speculating he was the 6th Elder God. But since he has fallen with the Black Stone, he is not going to be called a god anymore.

Where do you get your "fact" that he is even lower than the god tiers of young gods?


Memory is serving me wrong. Xau - Tak, according to Mod Jack is of a joke tier, 'root -1'


Please cite the quotation.


Lore Corner - Answers answered on question 8

And I really want to know how Mod Jack managed to put in the square root symbol. Alt 251 isn’t working for me, it’s giving me ‘ü’ instead.


V: Tier 5
Xau-Tak: Tier √-1
Queen of Ashes: We haven't decided yet


He was just avoid answering the question. V is Tier 5 just because V = 5. Now that's a joke but obviously there is no "square root of -1". Jmods just want the mysterious Xau-Tak and Queen of Ashes to remain secrets for now.

14-Mar-2019 03:40:47

Iso Decoder
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@Dilbert

Root -1 would mean positive or negative ‘i’, where ‘i’ stands for inaginary number. It correlates with your conclusion Mod Jack was just joking and wants to keep Xau-Tak’s tier a mystery.

At this point I can’t fathom how Xau-Tak could beat the Elder Gods. The edicts kept him at bay until the one responsible, ‘Guthix’, perished willingly at the hands of Sliske who wanted to ascend. Guthix was a tier 2 God and just his edicts alone could keep out Xau-Tak.

On the other hand, the Elder Gods are tier 1 so are of a higher tier than Guthix. However, I acknowledge there is a discrepancy in this: “Mah’s tantrum that would normally pulverise mortals did not affect the World Guardian thanks to Guthix’s gift.” This was a phenomenon Zaros perceived in Children of Mah.

I can think of one possible theory to support this without breaking the lore: That Mah was too weakened after creating Zaros and Seren even though born an invalid that she has gotten weaker than a tier 2 god. Maybe Mah’s illness could have been attributed by the polar elements she represented: Light and Shadow? Or maybe, should Xau Tak be in fact tier 1, Mah was initially of the light before Xau Tak corrupted her with shadow?

In this situation then yes, your theory that Xau Tak can influence Mah is not too far-fetched, and seeing from the perspective that both Gods are shadow aligned or that Mah has been corrupted before her egg hatched, one source of shadow can slowly dominate the other.

I have heard rumours of there being a sixth elder God, but have not confirmed this myself as I’ve only seen 5 hatched eggs in the Elder Halls.
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14-Mar-2019 04:33:26 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2019 04:36:22 by Iso Decoder

Jeremy Cheng
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We're in the Endgame now.

Players will become the equivalent of Gods without having any actual divine power. We will take on xau-tak in elite dungeon 4-6.

14-Mar-2019 04:38:56 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2019 04:40:03 by Jeremy Cheng

Dilbert2001
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Iso Decoder said:
@Dilbert

Root -1 would mean positive or negative ‘i’, where ‘i’ stands for inaginary number. It correlates with your conclusion Mod Jack was just joking and wants to keep Xau-Tak’s tier a mystery.

On the other hand, the Elder Gods are tier 1 so are of a higher tier than Guthix. However, I acknowledge there is a discrepancy in this: “Mah’s tantrum that would normally pulverise mortals did not affect the World Guardian thanks to Guthix’s gift.” This was a phenomenon Zaros perceived in Children of Mah.

I can think of one possible theory to support this without breaking the lore: That Mah was too weakened after creating Zaros and Seren even though born an invalid that she has gotten weaker than a tier 2 god. Maybe Mah’s illness could have been attributed by the polar elements she represented: Light and Shadow? Or maybe, should Xau Tak be in fact tier 1, Mah was initially of the light before Xau Tak corrupted her with shadow?

In this situation then yes, your theory that Xau Tak can influence Mah is not too far-fetched, and seeing from the perspective that both Gods are shadow aligned or that Mah has been corrupted before her egg hatched, one source of shadow can slowly dominate the other.

I have heard rumours of there being a sixth elder God, but have not confirmed this myself as I’ve only seen 5 hatched eggs in the Elder Halls.


There are only 5 eggs because he 6th Elder God doesn't have a physical form according to Zaros.... Perhaps he was a God of Time... The spiral of time, the 4th dimension, doesn't take any form in the 3D world. ;)

Xau-Tak may not have to beat the other Elder God but he can corrupt them with the Black Stone and make them infertile. He might have corrupted Mah's egg with the "spiral of time" so Mah turned black, became corrupted and contagious to the Mahjarrats and the visiting desert gods who in turn brought the Mad God Disease back to Gielinor.

14-Mar-2019 04:56:48 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2019 04:58:59 by Dilbert2001

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More interesting analogies...

The Mysterious Lectern: "The spiral of time leads only to the gaping maw of eternity."


Translation...

"The Black Hand told him, "And this is Xau-Tak, the spiral and the time. No one can come to the Eternity except through me. (The Ambassador Mysterious Lectern)"


"Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)"

14-Mar-2019 17:54:25

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Iso Decoder said:

At this point I can’t fathom how Xau-Tak could beat the Elder Gods. The edicts kept him at bay until the one responsible, ‘Guthix’, perished willingly at the hands of Sliske who wanted to ascend. Guthix was a tier 2 God and just his edicts alone could keep out Xau-Tak.


The Edicts of Guthix didn't keep Xua-Tak out. During the last Pirate quest, which is still 5th age, you encounter black hands.
All the Elite Dungeon corruption (or at least a part of it) happened in the 5th Age.

As Xua-Tak is capable of circumventing the Edicts, he/she/it/gazorb might be capable of corrupting an Elder God. The smallest virus could compeltely wreck a human being, just like Sliske wrecked Guthix, so Xua-Tak might wreck Mah just as easily.
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14-Mar-2019 22:18:06

Dilbert2001
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I think some players misunderstand the nature of the Edicts of Guthix. I think it only affected the creatures who were involved in the God Wars or the ones which were potentially harmful to the existence of Gielinor but not necessary all the more powerful gods/creatures that were not particularly warmongering.

For instance, the desert gods were allowed to stay but the ones involved in the God Wars like Saradomin were ordered to leave. However, from the 3rd journal of the Magister, we know that Icthlarin is stronger than Saradomin among other gods if he chose to use his powers according to the Magister. Icthlarin being more powerful than Saradomin and many other gods but was not affected by the Edicts will be a good indication that Guthix did not set up the Edicts based on the powers of the gods alone.

Besides, Zaros apparently defied and violated the Edicts during its presence according to the quest The Temple at Senntisten too.

We also know the Dragonkin has stayed in Gielinor all the time. They are more powerful than the false users and barbequed V easily.

I doubt if the 5 known Elder Gods really cared about the Edicts. They probably have been sleeping at where they are now at the time of the Edicts. The Edicts should also have no effects to the 6th Elder God, regardless if he is/was indeed Xau-Tak, especially Guthix would be no match to the Elders, particularly the 6th one since he is not of form... Guthix couldn't have even get to him at all. :D

15-Mar-2019 19:07:33 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2019 19:30:29 by Dilbert2001

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