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ironreddeath
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ironreddeath

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* Make gem rocks a lower tier as they now take 1-2 minutes to mine a single gem. Either that or make them easier in some other way so it only takes say 10-15 seconds to mine again.

* Replace Coal, Mithril, Adamantite, and Runite stone spirits with Luminite, Runite, Dark Animica, and Light Animica for all high level PVM. This would include GWD 1 and 2, most other bosses with the exception of things like KBD, mole and a few other really low tier bosses, as well as for most high level slayer monsters like those that require 60+ slayer.

* Rockertunities should use the lootbeam so they are more visible and maybe a chat message to say one has appeared nearby.

* Allow higher level bars to hold more heat so that smithing is a bit faster at higher levels.

* Make it so there is a way to see how many ores are in your metal bank when you are not near it, maybe an option on your ore box?

* Add an option to trade in X stone spirits for Y stone spirits of a different tier.

* Add more higher tier divine locations. They should not top out at Runite with divination requirements in the 90's.

* Add a fix for extra ore dropping on the floor when inventory is full, possibly a perk of gemstone golem outfit or varrock armour. Although I am fairly certain it is caused by the honed perk.
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16-Jan-2019 13:17:44 - Last edited on 16-Jan-2019 13:21:03 by ironreddeath

David James

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- It's because of onyx gems mostly; I'll agree that lower rocks should prolly mine faster (haven't even tried any gem ones since update) but there again, most gems come from geodes.

-Nah, not every kill/trip needs to profit even at the tippety top level of PvM. Yes it's harder, but that in itself is also reasoning for not giving the handouts.

-When the rocks ain't bugged (fremmy bane one for example) to barely show anything they work perfectly fine. I think most people would rather not have their chat spammed.

-Superheat form; keeps your progress/swing 1 level above current heat = faster smithing. Use with GOTE + elven shard + auto reheater for unlimited prayer/15 progress a swing afk.

-No reason to object so why not; support.

-No, this would cause the spirits to be worth more than the ore of lower levels.

-Support

-There's always a chance to proc extra ores at high mining not just with honed perk. Besides, this can be abused for unlimited free banking of ores by simply allowing invy to be full

16-Jan-2019 15:43:37

ironreddeath
Apr Member 2017

ironreddeath

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Frobirdfrost It highly depends on the rock and the environment. For instance Necretite is near impossible to see without setting your skybox to dusk, and in prif the rockertunities for the animica are hard to see past peoples lava golems. As for potential spam I would assume they would do it as a toggle to avoid spam. The philosopher troll, born with the hands of a skiller and the mind of a jester.

16-Jan-2019 16:34:31 - Last edited on 16-Jan-2019 16:36:19 by ironreddeath

ironreddeath
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David James Yes I am aware of how common onyx was and that they needed to fix it, however nerfing it into oblivion was certainly not the answer. Before the rework it was something like a 6.5% chance for an onyx at the prid gem rocks. Now it takes 1-2 minutes to mine, no rockertunities (at least that I have seen) and very little reward.

I am not even talking profit but break even. For instance someone reported doing an hour of Nex, they got 1,200 coal stone spirits, they do not even sell on the GE for 1gp.

I am aware the rocks are bugged but there are other times where a lootbeam or togglable message would help. Heck even just changing the name of the rock on hover would be good like enriched Necritite or something. But for instance in Prif during Trah hour it can be near impossible to see the rockertunities, especially past peoples lava titans.

I am aware of this but I am more concerned with the need to reheat a bar every 10-15 seconds, it makes afk near impossible. Just a slightly larger heat pool could do wonders, especially since the speed of smithing slowed so much without having top tier everything.

For the spirit exchange what if we did it for an untradable spirit? this way if you are doing something lower tier or you have a large surplus, like from bossing, you can upgrade a bit.

I agree that it could be abused but there should be ways to fix it so it is not abused. For instance only works on double ore drops.
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16-Jan-2019 16:45:29

Ethereal199
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ironreddeath said:

* Replace Coal, Mithril, Adamantite, and Runite stone spirits with Luminite, Runite, Dark Animica, and Light Animica for all high level PVM. This would include GWD 1 and 2, most other bosses with the exception of things like KBD, mole and a few other really low tier bosses, as well as for most high level slayer monsters like those that require 60+ slayer.


Jagex said they will address this problem, when the market has settled. Many players who care about mining XP would rather prefer to use Light or Dark Animica spirits with the Perfect Juju Mining (or Perfect Plus) Potion, so that every time you consume a spirit, your stamina bar replenishes. This means you can AFK these ores and still get 12.5% bonus damage since your stamina bar will never hit 0.

Of course, you could go for the Rockertunities or use crystallise for higher XP/hr, but that's a lot more effort than AFKing. You could also do Alaea Crablets at the Arc, but the Perfect Juju Mining potion and crystallise doesn't work for those, and therefore you need to click more often to prevent your stamina bar from hitting 0. You also don't get geodes if you use crystallise or mine Alaea Crablets.
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21-Jan-2019 08:59:53

bacon bit
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ironreddeath said:
Frobirdfrost It highly depends on the rock and the environment. For instance Necretite is near impossible to see without setting your skybox to dusk, and in prif the rockertunities for the animica are hard to see past peoples lava golems. As for potential spam I would assume they would do it as a toggle to avoid spam.


If you play on java you can't even see them at all. I don't even bother with them because I can't see them.

21-Jan-2019 11:30:57

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