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So Menaphos looks pretty cool. I'd like to stake a claim and try to get a roleplay group running there when it comes out. Can I do that? I don't see any other threads here. Is there a procedure, or...?

My strengths:

1) I am an undisputed expert on canon lore. The Scrying Pool will back me up as one of their foremost lore minds.

2) I'm an adept roleplayer as well, as those who have roleplayed with me will testify. I'm good at writing realistic dialogue (not so much descriptive actions or combat, though), as well as writing grounded, realistic, human characters that are not overly competent or "cool".

3) Tying in to this, I'm more interested in fun, lore-friendly roleplay than in the furtherance of personal power. I believe we can do some fun things, but I won't be trying to make my character the ruler of Menaphos IC. I'd obviously like to lead and organize things OOC, but within the story the Pharaoh is still the one in charge, not any characters played by me.
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05-May-2017 20:05:13 - Last edited on 05-May-2017 21:39:47 by Kittyphantom

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Hazbollah said:
Calling "dibs" doesn't exactly work here - you have to prove that you use it when it's available. That's not even considering the existing Kharidian RP which I believe claims the entire desert - whether they actively use it, I can't say.

I'd also just like to address the first point about knowing canon lore. That's excellent to hear, but likewise it isn't as simple in the World 42 canon - there's been numerous expansions on canon lore in RP. One relevant example surrounding Menaphos is that the plague in Sophanem was cleansed. (Of course, it's important to consider that this is always changing with the addition of new questlines - so I suppose we'll see what the update adds).


Hmm, thank you. So if I move in after the update and start using it, I can basically earn "squatters' rights", as it were?

And hmm. I'll have to figure out what to do with the World 42 fanlore, then. I admit I don't have a response to this; I don't know a lot about these developments, and didn't even know the plague was considered cleansed in World 42.
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05-May-2017 20:25:52

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Dansplainer said:
Alongside what was suggested above, I would suggest talking to the current PoK which oversees the rest of the desert, and claims the city out-of-character (though current in-character circumstances, as well as community standards, bar them from making any in-character claims on the city.)

I'm sure, Shawdow, the guy who runs the show in Kharidia, would love to hear your enthusiasm for roleplay in Menaphos as he too has plans for it. Maybe shoot him a PM or something, I know he'd be more than happy to work with you on it.

Also, here's a link to the Kharidia thread


Thank you! I appreciate the info and help. :)
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05-May-2017 20:38:08

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Ptolemy Dean said:
I'd rather support kingdoms moving toward NPCs and see an end to the whole POK thing. Nothing against you or anyone wanting to rule these places, but I think their time has come.


Actually, Dean, I'm exactly the same way! (Part of my whole "lore accurate" thing). See my point 3 - I don't want to be an IC ruler. I'd like to lead a group OOC, but acknowledge the canon Pharaoh. This is similar to what the White Knight clan did under Sir Tain Def.
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05-May-2017 21:05:24 - Last edited on 05-May-2017 21:07:35 by Kittyphantom

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Lod Lark said:
Ptolemy Dean said:
I'd rather support kingdoms moving toward NPCs and see an end to the whole POK thing. Nothing against you or anyone wanting to rule these places, but I think their time has come.


Have to agree with Ptolemy Dean. In addition to it not really being my cup of tea anymore having role-played extensively in other communities which are actively against the notion of Player Owned Kingdoms.

With the current lore surrounding Menaphos and the storyline of its ruler I just don't see Player Owned Kingdoms there to be viable at all. There's no way a Role-play character could acquire legitimate ownership of Menophos without bending, or outright breaking the lore to do so which is a big no-no in my books.

Not even ruling on the Pharoh's behalf as a Magistrate or Overseer of a governing body would work given the way that their Kingdom operates under something similar to an Egyptian monarchy.

It's a no from me.


Firstly, I'm glad so many people seem to share my opinions about the lore. I think you must have missed the last two posts on the thread, though.

The lore's very important to me, and I agree with you totally. That's why I'd just like to control it from an OOC perspective. IC, my character isn't going to be the Pharaoh, nor is he going to be some kind of regent. (See Point 3)

I'm not actually sure yet what I want to play or how this experiment will work out (leading OOC but not IC), but I'm thinking of using characters in a way that will further my twin goals of 1) Fun storytelling 2) Upholding lore

Maybe I should reword Point 3 on the first page to make it more clear or eye-catching?
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05-May-2017 21:32:28

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Lod Lark said:
Unless you intend to have an organisation that claims absolutely no authority over Menophos, it's citizens or visitors then Menophos' it's a no from me.


Precisely. I don't know how standard POKs work, but I'm not planning for this to focus solely on a bunch of hoity toity government types. I want stories involving characters and inhabitants *in* Menaphos.

I'd want the ability, OOC, to organize roleplay there and maintain some semblance of control. IC, however, the group members might be a bunch of merchants or adventurers or soldiers - with perhaps the occasional government member as needed, but nothing so high-up as the Pharaoh himself.

IC we'll be engaging with the things that OOC we've decided are going on in Menaphos. As a (admittedly poor) example thought up on the spot, let's say we decide OOC the Pharaoh has outlawed the sale of cabbages.

We'll engage with this IC not as the Pharaoh, but as the people subject to this law - perhaps we could include corrupt city guards brutally enforcing it (or being bribed), but other roleplayers in the city, at the behest of the OOC clan, could not sell cabbages either because the events we are telling have decided the Pharaoh said so.
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05-May-2017 21:46:18 - Last edited on 05-May-2017 21:47:31 by Kittyphantom

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Ravensteel said:
I feel like you miss the point that you can just organize rp anywhere and don't need it to be from the Pharoh
Like at all
You also don't need to claim dibs on a place we don't do land claims anymore

final point is even if you did call dibs wouldn't the people already running the desert show be the proper people in control


Oh, I wasn't aware things were no longer done that way. So we're sure we won't have some lorebend player Pharaoh popping up if I don't do this? If that's the case...

Lod Lark said:
Kittyphantom said:
leading OOC but not IC


That's not going to work, though for the aforementioned reasons.

The lore as of now is that tension between Al Kharid and Menophos is high between the political war with both parties and outbreak of plague in Sophanem which have caused Menophos to close their gates and deny passage to anyone but The Adventurer themselves as a political envoy from Al Kharid sent with the intention of delusion tension between the two.

There is no way for our regular characters unless natives to Menaphos to be allowed passage inside. [1] And there is no way to enforce and coordinate your Role-play without a figure of authority to do so unless you wish to be a tourist board offering events and attractions to generate Role-play without having any real authority in the city which would otherwise be illogical due to the first issue addressed.

Cites and source:

1. "RuneScape's Road to Menaphos stream #1- The Story So Far and requirements" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYPU8cFeaOk)


I wasn't intending to include "our regular characters". Menaphos' isolation was a plus in my mind (having to engage less with other, potentially lore-breaking groups). I'm unsure what I said that gave you that impression.
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05-May-2017 22:02:35

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"And there is no way to enforce and coordinate your Role-play without a figure of authority to do so"

Maybe so, but does that figure of authority have to be a figure of authority IC? When we do things IC, is it because our character was approached by the King of X, or is it because we're friends with the guy OOC and decided he had a cool story idea?

Likewise, are cross-community interactions governed by IC meetings between rulers (for which an "ambassador" character might work just as well) or by posting on the forums like we're doing right now?
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05-May-2017 22:10:14

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Sodden Hound said:
not to shit on ya buddy but you are definitely not an undisputed expert on canon lore


Oh, have we not discussed lore before, friend? ;) I think if you give me the chance to have a little chat - or maybe ask those who have already - you might change your mind fairly quickly. I don't oversell myself. I'd even offer to let you quiz me right here and now, but that might get off topic.
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05-May-2017 22:15:49

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Lod Lark said:
Kittyphantom said:
or is it because we're friends with the guy OOC and decided he had a cool story idea?


In Character and Out of Character must be kept separate at all times, no exception. If you are looking for, or seek to promote something casual Role-play then, by all means, feel free to do so. But lorebreaking, (or bending) and breaking character for some casual fun Role-play is not something I would publically promote.

Sodden Hound said:
not to shit on ya buddy but you are definitely not an undisputed expert on canon lore


I'd have to agree with that observation thus far.


I don't see how I'm lorebreaking, bending or breaking character, nor did I mean "casual" by fun. I suspect there's some clear miscommunication going on here.

I'll try not to feel insulted, but your observations on lore - which as I've said I fully agree with - are all things I already know.

Your point about having our regular characters in Menaphos would be an entirely valid one, had it not been for the fact that I didn't say anything of that kind.

Your point about how a player should not rule on behalf of the Pharaoh would equally be an entirely valid one, had it not been for the fact that that's not what I'm trying to do.

If you're of the opinion that I'm lorebreaking, I'd appreciate an explanation as to why that's the case.
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05-May-2017 22:25:02

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Sodden Hound said:
You do oversell yourself, we've debated lore multiple times in the WK CC and I'd usually end up giving examples that prove you wrong, such as vampyres NOT being undead, with in-game evidence, mod confirmation, and the World Guardian's own statements.
Or maybe the fact that demonic possession is a thing, and that exposure to darker energies/magic can lead to corruption, meaning demonic corruption is possible.
If you gave me time I could probably think of a few more that you disagreed with despite heaps of evidence.


There's an enormous amount of evidence, pre-Lord of Vampyrium, of vampyres being undead - including mod confirmation. It's a retcon or forgetfulness on Jagex's part.

I never disagreed with demonic possession being a thing. I seem to recall having some discussion on someone whose character was corrupted and calling upon demon powers, but as the lore says nothing conclusive in that department, I consider my questioning it to be a very fair matter of opinion.
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05-May-2017 22:29:14

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Ravensteel said:
Kittyphantom said:
Sodden Hound said:
You do oversell yourself, we've debated lore multiple times in the WK CC and I'd usually end up giving examples that prove you wrong, such as vampyres NOT being undead, with in-game evidence, mod confirmation, and the World Guardian's own statements.
Or maybe the fact that demonic possession is a thing, and that exposure to darker energies/magic can lead to corruption, meaning demonic corruption is possible.
If you gave me time I could probably think of a few more that you disagreed with despite heaps of evidence.


There's an enormous amount of evidence, pre-Lord of Vampyrium, of vampyres being undead - including mod confirmation. It's a retcon or forgetfulness on Jagex's part.

I never disagreed with demonic possession being a thing. I seem to recall having some discussion on someone whose character was corrupted and calling upon demon powers, but as the lore says nothing conclusive in that department, I consider my questioning it to be a very fair matter of opinion.


you almost immediately called bullshit and i had to bring eli to explain the reasons you were wrong


"explain the reasons I was wrong". Again, this is subjective stuff, not lore. The lore has no examples of people with demon powers producing demon offspring, despite not being demons or presently possessed by a demon.
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05-May-2017 22:39:58

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I'm sorry, but I don't see how questioning if you are lorebreaking affects my lore credentials. By that logic, Dewiniaeth mustn't know lore because I "proved him wrong" to the point he deleted his posts on Page 2. Except he clearly does know desert lore - that's why he was questioning me in the first place. "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

05-May-2017 22:47:24

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Lod Lark said:
Kittyphantom said:
or is it because we're friends with the guy OOC and decided he had a cool story idea?


In Character and Out of Character must be kept separate at all times, no exception. If you are looking for, or seek to promote something casual Role-play then, by all means, feel free to do so. But lorebreaking, (or bending) and breaking character for some casual fun Role-play is not something I would publically promote or seek to encourage others to participate within myself.

Sodden Hound said:
not to shit on ya buddy but you are definitely not an undisputed expert on canon lore


Must agree it does indeed sound a tad far-fetched.


Back on topic. I think you've misunderstood my IC/OC point. My point was that as long as we can get people on board with something OOC, there doesn't need to be an IC king giving the orders in the middle of a roleplay.

The guards enforcing the law example I provided, for example. The guards are being played by people who have, OOC, learned of this apparent decree, and are now IC basically being the Pharaoh's mouthpiece and informing people IC this is illegal now and they can't do it. Do you see what I mean?
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05-May-2017 23:05:56

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Shawdow said:
Hi effendi, i'm glad you're interested in Menaphos. However, current Menaphos is part of the Kharidia roleplay and we plan to keep it that way. If you'd like to become part of the roleplay you can always apply to our thread We've been actively bring roleplay to the desert region for quite awhile now and have been gearing towards some fun plots leading up to Menaphos. We don't intend to just give it to someone who wants to own a city as this diminishes the roleplay we've been trying to build up as a group.


All right, thanks for your time. I'll consider it - are you planning to keep the NPC Pharaoh in charge, though?
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05-May-2017 23:11:07

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Shawdow said:
Kittyphantom said:
Shawdow said:
Hi effendi, i'm glad you're interested in Menaphos. However, current Menaphos is part of the Kharidia roleplay and we plan to keep it that way. If you'd like to become part of the roleplay you can always apply to our thread We've been actively bring roleplay to the desert region for quite awhile now and have been gearing towards some fun plots leading up to Menaphos. We don't intend to just give it to someone who wants to own a city as this diminishes the roleplay we've been trying to build up as a group.


All right, thanks for your time. I'll consider it - are you planning to keep the NPC Pharaoh in charge, though?
That depends on how the quest falls, there's a lot of unknown factors still. Even if we remain split ic, we're the same group ooc; striving to keep roleplay in the desert active.


Good luck to you - I think Menaphos has a lot of potential for roleplay (enough that I thought it might be able to stand on its own).

How would you feel about me shifting this to just having a group that does regular roleplays in the city, without claiming any power over it OOC or IC? We might be able to work with you on some things if enough people were interested - or would you prefer any such players were folded into your wider Kharidia group?
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05-May-2017 23:16:08

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Shawdow said:
Kittyphantom said:
Shawdow said:
Hi effendi, i'm glad you're interested in Menaphos. However, current Menaphos is part of the Kharidia roleplay and we plan to keep it that way. If you'd like to become part of the roleplay you can always apply to our thread We've been actively bring roleplay to the desert region for quite awhile now and have been gearing towards some fun plots leading up to Menaphos. We don't intend to just give it to someone who wants to own a city as this diminishes the roleplay we've been trying to build up as a group.


All right, thanks for your time. I'll consider it - are you planning to keep the NPC Pharaoh in charge, though?
That depends on how the quest falls, there's a lot of unknown factors still. Even if we remain split ic, we're the same group ooc; striving to keep roleplay in the desert active.


Good luck to you - I think Menaphos has a lot of potential for roleplay (enough that I thought it might be able to stand on its own).

How would you feel about me shifting this to just having a group that does regular roleplays in the city, without claiming any power over it OOC or IC? We might be able to work with you on some things if enough people were interested - or would you prefer any such players were folded into your wider Kharidia group?
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05-May-2017 23:16:13

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A hub! So that's what the term is. I see Misthalin's thread now. That's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for! Well, I'm disappointed to hear you'd prefer not to let Menaphos become a hub of that kind, as I do truly believe it has a lot of potential there, but again, thank you for your time. I might drop in some time and see how things go. "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

05-May-2017 23:22:53

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Nomadess said:
Kittyphantom said:
How would you feel about me shifting this to just having a group that does regular roleplays in the city, without claiming any power over it OOC or IC? We might be able to work with you on some things if enough people were interested - or would you prefer any such players were folded into your wider Kharidia group?


I think it would be best for the community if there weren't two separate groups for Menaphos roleplay. Kharidia already has many plans for roleplay in Menaphos so it might be best to simply join them, not make a new group. As for shifting the thread, I don't think it'd be ideal considering the title and conversations already having taken place on it.


Oh, I meant shifting the concept, not necessarily editing the thread (I might make a new thread if that was what I was going to do).
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05-May-2017 23:24:28

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Idea - What about a sandbox (pun unintended)? That could also let me capture in-lore dynamics like the Al Kharid-Menaphos struggle that may not be reflected in World 42. "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

06-May-2017 00:02:14

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I'm pleased to hear of your credentials, but I was saying you clearly *do* know desert lore, not that you don't. If you'd read that paragraph again, I was telling them that questioning if someone is lorebreaking doesn't make that person less knowledgeable about lore - it shows they care.

I too used to own a quest cape and am also an ardent fan of the RuneScape novels (which as you may recall also regarded vampyres as undead, having been edited by Mod Osborne, who maintained a similar position). It's nice to meet a fellow member of TSP - I haven't been around there in a while, but did you know Kittyphantom? It's me - Could I ask about your former character names?

(And on that topic, Aquatic Pup - I'd think the fact that I was able to, on a dime and from memory, quote obscure dialogue and examine messages from quests as seemingly irrelevant to vampyres as Garden of Tranquility and Rum Deal, ought to earn me some credit in your eyes, at least.)

But Dew, I'm not sure in what way I'm not being clear to you. I've tried clarifying more than once in the past several pages that my goal isn't for any earthly characters to govern it in-character, and that I'm more interested in hub-type roleplay. (Organizing events and leading a group OOC).
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06-May-2017 16:24:13 - Last edited on 06-May-2017 16:27:37 by Kittyphantom

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Sodden Hound said:
oreos are vegan


Verily
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06-May-2017 16:35:36

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Lod Lark said:
Kittyphantom said:
I'm pleased to hear of your credentials, but I was saying you clearly *do* know desert lore, not that you don't.


That paragraph quoted below begs to differ.

Kittyphantom said:
Dewiniaeth mustn't know lore because I "proved him wrong" to the point he deleted his posts on Page 2. Except he clearly does know desert lore - that's why he was questioning me in the first place.


You didn't "prove" me wrong nor am I only knowledgeable in desert lore as you insinuated. Don't try to chalk down your insult to miscommunication because it was not.

This forum, man.


I'm not in the habit of insulting people, and I'm sorry if I've given you that impression.

I think we're all operating at cross purposes here - you and I have a lot in common, and I'm actually very happy to meet someone who cares about the lore here and tries to make sure that it's being well accounted for. That's what I had been hoping to do here.

Pirate Myles, I don't believe he was trying to be narcissistic. It looks like he's interpreted my post as suggesting that he *only* knows desert lore - which isn't what I was trying to say at all.
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06-May-2017 16:47:04 - Last edited on 06-May-2017 16:47:59 by Kittyphantom

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Lod Lark said:
Kittyphantom said:
I'm pleased to hear of your credentials, but I was saying you clearly *do* know desert lore, not that you don't.


That's not what you insinuated in the post below.

Kittyphantom said:
Dewiniaeth mustn't know lore because I "proved him wrong" to the point he deleted his posts on Page 2. Except he clearly does know desert lore - that's why he was questioning me in the first place.


You didn't prove anything wrong.


I was using quotation marks there for a reason, friend. Aquatic Pup is a good guy, but he and Hakuchou seem to regard their disagreement with me on a subjective area as being a dent in my lore knowledge. Isn't that similar to what's happening with you and me here? The fact we're not seeing eye to eye (which *does* seem to be at least partly due to miscommunications) shouldn't reflect poorly upon either of us - that logic doesn't hold up.
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06-May-2017 16:50:48

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I also note your quoting of me omitted part of my sentence...

Kittyphantom said:
By that logic, Dewiniaeth mustn't know lore because I "proved him wrong" to the point he deleted his posts on Page 2. Except he clearly does know desert lore - that's why he was questioning me in the first place.


I'm not sure why you would do that. The "By that logic" was key to the meaning of what I was trying to say.
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06-May-2017 17:08:37

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Vekon said:
How is this an argument

If you want to make RP there, make RP there. No PoK owner is going to stop you from doing that
If you want to actually claim it as a PoK, then you're just shitting on the lore for the actual leader Jagex has put in place, which I'm assuming is somewhat important for the direction they're going with Menaphos and the Pantheon


Page 4 and my discussions with the very courteous leader of the Kharidia POK (such a gentleman!) might help you understand what I was hoping for.

Basically, I was hoping (ideally) to ensure that no one set up a player in place of the NPC pharaoh, by claiming it myself (OOC) and making it into a "hub" (as I now know the term is) that acknowledged the NPC Pharaoh.

The Kharidia POK has already been working on plans for the city and would prefer I didn't do that. I next suggested creating a group for roleplay in Menaphos that didn't claim any authority over it at all, but simply regularly roleplayed there and could work with them on certain things (something like what you're suggesting). Another member of their POK politely told me they think it would be best for the community if Menaphos roleplay weren't divided between two groups like that.

I'm disappointed with their preference there, but they and I had a nice talk.

As for the disagreement with Dew, it seems to me that he and I are talking at cross purposes and that there's some miscommunication going on here. I believe he wants the same things I do, but that I've failed to make that clear to him.
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06-May-2017 17:59:20

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I don't feel the reason it's being "disputed" is a very good one. ;P Would you prefer I said "widely acknowledged"?
"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you[...]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

06-May-2017 18:03:57

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