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Balustan said:
Giras said:

Zamorak- Probably some story of self-achievement and merit, since he wasn't one of the strongest Mahjarrat on Freneskae and later became the strongest. It's likely that he had to work and claw his way up from the bottom in a way similar to how the adventurer started out as a nobody and became someone that can rival the legends of the world.


Er no. Just because he wasn't one of the four strongest doesn't mean he wasn't the fifth strongest. 2 of them are killed on Freneskae. Then Temekel presumably dies in Tumeken's self destruct. That leaves Zamorak as the second strongest. He then is assigned to be a general for Zaros while Azzanadra sits around and does nothing but bureaucracy stuff. He hones his skills, makes use of the spells they have learned since coming to Gielinor etc and becomes the strongest that way.

While he certainly earned it a bit I wouldn't say it was a struggle from nothing without assuming an awful lot.


We don't know if the other two were killed on Freneskae. Just because they were stronger on Freneskae doesn't mean that they weren't also stronger after arriving on Gielinor. For all we know they died during the Kharidian-Zarosian War. It's also entirely possible that they're still alive.
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27-Jan-2016 01:43:49

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Balustan said:
We do know they were killed on Freneskae. Temekel and Azzanadra killed them forcing the tribe to come to Gielinor as they wished.

Azzanadra was one of the 4. Temekel could have died at some other point than Tumeken's self destruct but that seems unlikely given how bad ass he is made out to be. Plus he's the only named one that was present that could have died then so it makes sense they'd kill him then.

He could still be alive but then why did the tribe completely abandon the strongest ruling?


Incorrect. Unless a J Mod mentioned it somewhere, there is no source identifying anyone killed by Azzanadra or Temekel on Freneskae. Salisard and Abrogal were the two Mahjarrat who died during the debate about the migration to Gielinor, but how powerful they were is never mentioned.

I wasn't referring specifically to Temekel, I was talking about the Mahjarrat that we know for sure to be alive.
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27-Jan-2016 04:35:22 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2016 04:36:15 by Chaos Lupus

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Balustan said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Balustan said:
We do know they were killed on Freneskae. Temekel and Azzanadra killed them forcing the tribe to come to Gielinor as they wished.

Azzanadra was one of the 4. Temekel could have died at some other point than Tumeken's self destruct but that seems unlikely given how bad ass he is made out to be. Plus he's the only named one that was present that could have died then so it makes sense they'd kill him then.

He could still be alive but then why did the tribe completely abandon the strongest ruling?


Incorrect. Unless a J Mod mentioned it somewhere, there is no source identifying anyone killed by Azzanadra or Temekel on Freneskae. Salisard and Abrogal were the two Mahjarrat who died during the debate about the migration to Gielinor, but how powerful they were is never mentioned.

I wasn't referring specifically to Temekel, I was talking about the Mahjarrat that we know for sure to be alive.


No they died because those 4 were the strongest and made decisions for the Mahjarrat, even if all were allowed a voice in the debate, and so Temekel and Azzanad*a enforced their will by killing them making them the strongest. Probably making Zamorak the 3rd strongest in the process.


It's a possibility, but you're assuming. All we know is that there were two opposing sides and that two Mahjarrat died because of it. We don't even know for sure which side Salisard was on, he could have been on team Azzanadra/Temekel and simply been killed in the chaos. Everyone was obviously allowed a voice in the debate as there were two established sides with even numbers. Salisard and Abrogal may have been the next strongest, or they might have just been the most vocal, or they might have just been unlucky.
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27-Jan-2016 16:07:26

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Hazeel said:
1) You're assuming the 4 strongest were evenly split between the two group.

2) It makes no sense for them to kill the 2 strongest of the opposing group. It goes against their culture of killing the weakest.


Although Bilrach's memory does mention that those who disagreed with the consensus of the strongest were sacrificed, so even the fourth strongest wouldn't be safe if they disagreed with Temekel.
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27-Jan-2016 17:33:50

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@ Xiaoqing

Salisard and Abrogal are mentioned by name because they're the ones who died. It's Bilrach's memory, it would be odd for him to have forgotten their names. The memories also name other Mahjarrat who, as far as we know, hold no particular significance.

Also, the energy from the Ritual of Rejuvenation went to Mah on Freneskae instead of the Mahjarrat, although there are a few contradictions (DAT and possibly Bilrach's memory) where the children of Mah absorb at least some of it.
The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

28-Jan-2016 23:18:27 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2016 23:19:03 by Chaos Lupus

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