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Talonstalker
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So i got to thinking, there are quite somethings with THE lore and quests that i feel, are... unanswered, or forgotten.

- DAT. If you side with either Zamorak or Sliske at the ending, you blast one of them or stay neutral. Why isn't it commented about it during Kindred spirits by Sliske? You would think Sliske would let it fly if you blasted him? Or laugh about still, when you side with him?

^ -Even if you do Ks before Dat, nothing is commented about it either.

-DAT. Well, talking with the Mahjarrat and no noting of our actions against them, not even by Zamorak him self. And Lord Daquarius.

-White knight guardian. How come we are still a White knight? or Temple knight whatsoever.
If you are a Zamorakian (or any other follower), sided with Zammy during Bol, and whats more, why are we still part of that organisation? I feel this is rather weird that nothing is noted about, not even by Saradomin himself.

-Seren. Why isn't she lashing out towards Sliske?
Player:
I'd like to talk about Sliske.
Seren:
I will not discuss the man who murdered my ... my Guthix. I have been a pacifist. Refusing to turn my power to destruction ... But if I meet him ... I will remind him how light can burn.


So.. no anger? no lashing out? no Sliske face frying?

What about Zamorak? No anger towards him show during any quests? he did stabbed your borther.

Seren: The sword of the betrayer! Usurper! You killed my sibling! To use Their tools for such selfish goals... Unthinkable. Unforgivable! Ambition like his is a danger to all of us. Yet...I should not have risen against him. He was not worth breaking my promise over.

Only Zamorak is angered and hateful to her, for what she has done to the Mahjarrat.

-Zaros and Seren. Both are drawt to one another, yet, during the end game they are pretty standing close to one another without any worry's of getting the feel to stay, feeling devoted to each other.
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

20-Aug-2017 23:34:01

Talonstalker
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There are more things, but these are the only ones i could think of right now.
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

20-Aug-2017 23:34:42

Hguoh
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Talonstalker said:
- DAT. If you side with either Zamorak or Sliske at the ending, you blast one of them or stay neutral. Why isn't it commented about it during Kindred spirits by Sliske? You would think Sliske would let it fly if you blasted him? Or laugh about still, when you side with him?

^ -Even if you do Ks before Dat, nothing is commented about it either.


Keep in mind, he wanted Zammy to get to the stone and Sliske kept the stone even if you blasted him. So why would he bring up something that might make you think he's holding a grudge. And by being nice to us after KS, he works to lure us back into a sense of security so that we don't look further into his plans (both in DaT and SE).

Talonstalker said:
-DAT. Well, talking with the Mahjarrat and no noting of our actions against them, not even by Zamorak him self. And Lord Daquarius.


If you want to stop Zammy, why would you bring up reasons they shouldn't trust you?
If you want to work with Zammy, why would you point out the reasons they shouldn't listen to you?
Similarly, why would the Mahjarrat start something with the guy their boss wants them to work with (especially when said guy has beaten a large chunk of them in combat before)?

Talonstalker said:
-White knight guardian. How come we are still a White knight? or Temple knight whatsoever.
If you are a Zamorakian (or any other follower), sided with Zammy during Bol, and whats more, why are we still part of that organisation? I feel this is rather weird that nothing is noted about, not even by Saradomin himself.


5th age 6th age story/gameplay segregation? Our willingness to help them with most of their mundane conflicts even if we disagree with them on a deistic front?

21-Aug-2017 02:52:39 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2017 22:11:34 by Hguoh

Hguoh
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Talonstalker said:
-Seren. Why isn't she lashing out towards Sliske?
Player:
I'd like to talk about Sliske.
Seren:
I will not discuss the man who murdered my ... my Guthix. I have been a pacifist. Refusing to turn my power to destruction ... But if I meet him ... I will remind him how light can burn.


So.. no anger? no lashing out? no Sliske face frying?

What about Zamorak? No anger towards him show during any quests? he did stabbed your borther.

Seren: The sword of the betrayer! Usurper! You killed my sibling! To use Their tools for such selfish goals... Unthinkable. Unforgivable! Ambition like his is a danger to all of us. Yet...I should not have risen against him. He was not worth breaking my promise over.

Only Zamorak is angered and hateful to her, for what she has done to the Mahjarrat.


Time and priorities.

Seren had time to cool off from her initial restoration and wanted to punish Sliske for killing Guthix, but had time to cool down and the more pressing issue of preventing another God Wars to take care of first.

Seren also was angry with Zamorak for killing Zaros, but that was back at the end of the 2nd age. She had a lot of time to cool down, eventually learned that Zaros still lived, and resolved to do everything she can to impede Zaros (and fighting Zamorak would work against that goal).

Talonstalker said:
-Zaros and Seren. Both are drawt to one another, yet, during the end game they are pretty standing close to one another without any worry's of getting the feel to stay, feeling devoted to each other.


As their divinity was suppressed, perhaps so too was their curse.
Maybe their time spent apart from one another weakening the curse's pull to the point that their prioritization of dealing with Sliske allowed them to function normally.

21-Aug-2017 03:07:53

Talonstalker
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You do bring up good points Hguoh.

Still, would be nice if there was something about "you're a White knight Harry"

With Ks and Dat, i dunno feels like there should be atleast something being said about it.

Dat, you would atleast expect some dialogue with Zemouregal and Enakhra even Khazard about why you are helping Zamorak. Because of our "serving many Masters".

Edit: Zamorak:
"You supported me at the Empyrean Citadel in the face of the other gods. Not only do you have my trust, but also my respect."

The look on their faces, if there was any dialogue.. :/
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

26-Aug-2017 21:17:32 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2017 23:32:59 by Talonstalker

Talonstalker
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Come to think of it, after reading many Quest Transcripts of the sixth age and all, i'm realizing how and why it all works. (not counting diffrent writers and half baked dialogues and all that.)
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

26-Aug-2017 21:20:13

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