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Bonzara

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I think it'd be interesting if one or more of the Mahserrat actually survived.

Bilrach said he thought they were all dead because they chose to forgo the ritual sacrifices practiced by the other Dreams of Mah tribes. This makes me suspect that the Mahserrat were more ethically-minded than the Mahjarrat, and if any were alive today, they'd probably have ended up following Armadyl, Seren, or Saradomin (a light god instead of a dark one).

Maybe some of the Mahserrat were like the Dactyl; instead of practicing sacrifices, they tried to discover or invent another way to keep themselves alive that didn't involve killing. Did they succeed? Most of them probably didn't; but maybe there were a few who did?

Given that Mahjarrat can disguise themselves as humans, Mahserrat probably can too, and so we might even have encountered one already without noticing it. Due to their apparently less violent nature, the Mahserrat would likely not want to frighten weaker lifeforms, and so they would be less likely to reveal their true identities around humans.

There are several ways a Mahserrat might have survived to the present day, if any of them did in fact survive:

-By becoming attached to Seren, the same way the elves acquired longer lifespans. Or they might have done the same thing the Crystal Shapeshifters did. (Perhaps there is more of Tarddiad waiting to be explored, with one or more Mahserrat living there?)

-By absorbing energy from portals; Moia was able to rejuvenate herself from the portals at the bottom of Daemonheim, and a Mahserrat could theoretically do this too.

-On a somewhat related note, the Schism might work too. Perhaps one (or even all) of Teragard's Magisters are actually Mahserrat in disguise?

-By directly drawing energy from the Anima Mundi somehow.

-By siphoning elder energy from Freneskae

-By using an elder artifact

-Possibly other ways as well!
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01-Jun-2016 07:39:54 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2016 07:41:06 by Bonzara

Hazeel

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In order:

-No, she would have made note of this. They wouldn't have been able to leave without her.

-They have no access to Daemonheim and portals weren't a thing until recently. They would have died before then.

-No evidence.

-"Somehow". If that were possible, the Mahjarrat would have stopped doing rituals too.

-They all would have survived then, but I doubt they could do that outside of actual mating.

-Measure isn't going to help them.

They died because they were weak and cowardly. They deserved their deaths as such. One way they could have theoretically survived is by continuing the mating rituals, but not the rejuvination rituals, living an dying as humans do. In fact, they probably did...it didn't work though, clearly. It's easy to imagine why. Frenesake isn't a weak planet like Gielinor where any fool can making a living. Only the best and brightest survive on Freneskae. For the Mahjarrat, the losers who couldn't survive anyway end up getting sacrificed so their betters could continue on.

Any powerful members the Mahserrat had would have died of old age like miserable humans. Personally, I doubt the majority of any race could have survived on Freneskae. Only the most powerful of youth would have made it to advanced age. Given their inferior moral based culture and their inability to keep their stronger members alive, this would explain why the Mahserrat died out.
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01-Jun-2016 07:48:48 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2016 07:57:32 by Hazeel

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A minor correction. The Mahserrat would likely avoid Seren like the plague. She would be their culture's deceiver and devourer. She instituted the ritual sacrifices, and in the very guise of Mah herself.

So no, the Mahserrat would not follow Seren. Not willingly, at least.
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01-Jun-2016 18:58:19

Maiden China

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I think if any of them survived it would be through just the mating thing, and they wouldn't be very powerful... definitely unable to disguise themselves (jhallan mentions it takes a bit to do so... although I'm guessing it takes less to go to a form you're used to, like azzy's dr nabanik or wahi's ali the wise)
humans aren't really all that weak, aside from not naturally having the most powerful magicks or the toughest skin or so... although that doesn't mean mahserrat living as humans would be the same way
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02-Jun-2016 00:40:16

Hazeel

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Maiden China said:
humans aren't really all that weak, aside from not naturally having the most powerful magicks or the toughest skin or so... although that doesn't mean mahserrat living as humans would be the same way


The World Guardian is the exception, not the norm, and it's because we moved past humanity's peaceful culture that we're different from the weaklings you see running around Lumbridge.
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02-Jun-2016 00:53:51

Maiden China

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Hazeel said:
Maiden China said:
humans aren't really all that weak, aside from not naturally having the most powerful magicks or the toughest skin or so... although that doesn't mean mahserrat living as humans would be the same way


The World Guardian is the exception, not the norm, and it's because we moved past humanity's peaceful culture that we're different from the weaklings you see running around Lumbridge.
I'm not talking about the wg... I'm talking about humans, the sort that founded the wizard's tower, the sort that completely dominated most of gielinor despite being 'weaker' than the other races, the sort that turns almost any environment into one that is useful to them

and... ofcourse, when you're strong as a human society and you don't have many threats to you, that's when you start to get weak, but all the human settlements near any sort of danger are quite strong. If you look at the BoL, lumbridge goes from noob-town to a place that's quite capable of defending itself

If humans lived on freneskae, they'd be fairly strong because they are always needing to fight their environment... whereas in lumbridge, it's okay to be level 2 because now that the bol is over, there's not much of a threat to your safety

humans don't do overly well on peace, but when they don't have any, they'll work harder than anyone else to get to a point where they do and that makes them strong
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02-Jun-2016 01:12:37

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Bilrach thought Zamorak was better to follow than Zaros. Bilrach thought digging a whole system of caves because a voice told him to was a good idea. Bilrach thought the World Guardian wasn't useful.
Bilrach is kind of an idiot. Anyway, I'm not sure I agree with the Mahserrat being alive for certain, though it is possible. As for the Measure not being helpful... that's not entirely true. If the measure can reveal Anima like it does for us, then the Mahserrat would've been able to use it to find sources for themselves, if any existed, besides the Elder Halls. That's all speculation, but to say it would be of no help is simply untrue.
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02-Jun-2016 07:19:16

Hazeel

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Sepulchre said:
Bilrach thought Zamorak was better to follow than Zaros.


After Zaros destroyed the culture of several species for the sake of...Cthonian culture that he glorifes, left them a rotting empire, and limited their power...yeah, I'm not surprised.

Sepulchre said:
Bilrach thought digging a whole system of caves because a voice told him to was a good idea.


-Portal energy that can save him and the other Mahjarrat.

-What is essentially his own private World Gate.

-A stronghold with a gigantic army of incredibly powerful beings.

-With extra notable creatures such* as Behemoths and Infernals...

...Yeah, terrible idea.

Sepulchre said:
Bilrach thought the World Guardian wasn't useful.


After constantly thwarting his followers, are you surprised he didn't trust us? ...Also our WG powers served no purpose. Let's face it, we had no reason to be there.

Sepulchre said:
If the measure can reveal Anima like it does for us, then the Mahserrat would've been able to use it to find sources for themselves, if any existed, besides the Elder Halls. That's all speculation, but to say it would be of no help is simply untrue.


If anima did any good for reviving them, why on earth with they be using rituals in Gielinor?
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02-Jun-2016 07:57:15

Sepulchre
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Zaros is literally the only reason they're alive, because if he never gave them the idea of the ritual for the sake of their own power and life, they'd be dead.

Bilrach knew of none of those things. At the time, he was digging holes. If he knew, that'd be different. He didn't. He heard a damn voice in his head. Don't pretend like it's anything else, because we know it's not.

Mah created the Mahjarrat. She's an Elder God. The Mahjarrat are basically beings created of Divine energy.
Anima, or rather, Divine energy wouldn't be very useful to beings made of Divine energy? Right...
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World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

02-Jun-2016 08:02:43

Sepulchre
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Oh and, Zamorak doesn't trust Saradomin, yet he knows Saradomin isn't useless.
Not trusting somebody and thinking they're weak is not even close to the same thing.
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World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

02-Jun-2016 08:03:45

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