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Do you really think you can save them, Wahisietel? You can't. The spiral of time leads only to the gaping maw of eternity. And this is Xau-Tak.
- Gustaf Joannhes

For many, Xau-Tak was nothing more than a name briefly alluded to by V back in the Hero's Welcome quest. Not many paid too much attention to the mysterious deity with corpse oceans whose tendrils have already taken root on Gielinor. Even when Mod Wilson stated that Xau-Tak was connected to content that's been in the game since 2005, many just wrote Xau-Tak off as the Karamjan or Abyss god.

But after further investigation (and some hints from Mod Wilson), we began to realise that Xau-Tak was connected to something else entirely, something that myself and others were theorising about separately. The Pirate quest series and the Cave horrors. We theorised that Xau-Tak was responsible for the ruins on Mos Le'Harmless. The force behind the resurrection of Rabid Jack and his crew. The entity responsible for the Skeletal Horror. And perhaps even the Underwater City.

We then began to notice that ever since Hero's Welcome, Xau-Tak had been alluded to in every piece of content produced by the Dukes. When Kindred Spirits was released and introduced the Xau-Tak loredump that was Death at Sea, many of our theories were confirmed, and Xau-Tak gained the public's interest.

So, just what IS Xau-Tak? How strong is it, what does it want? There are references to it all over the game, but just where ARE these references? And what can we expect to see from Xau-Tak in the future? This thread will attempt to answer these questions.

You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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--Overview--

Generally speaking, Xau-Tak seems to be mostly connected to death and the oceans. It is a powerful deity with immense power over the undead, and is thought to physically bear the appearance of a sea creature with tentacles. Even with the Edicts active, Xau-Tak is believed to have been responsible for a number of actions on Gielinor, either directly or indirectly. These include the resurrection of Rabid Jack and his army, and the creation of the Skeletal Horror.

Xau-Tak's earliest known activities on Gielinor took place towards the end of the Second Age, in which a number of islands in the Eastern Sea were mysteriously destroyed overnight, either by Xau-Tak itself or something else. After this incident and the subsequent investigation by the crew of the Glory of Zaros, Xau-Tak seemingly vanished until very recently. Despite this, remnants of it still remained, including a number of artefacts infused with its power. Many of these artefacts, such the mysterious black stone found on Mos Le'Harmless, have considerable power over the undead. Most notably, it left behind a massive skull, which seemingly had a great deal of its power stored in it, in a similar fashion to Bandos's pendant.

Xau-Tak influence seems to been concentrated in and around the Eastern Sea, including the Cursed Archipelago, found to the south of Harmony Island. These islands are described as being full of "wicked magicks and evil spirits". Rabid Jack is thought to have made his base here before his "death". Xau-Tak's primary area of influence seems to be the Underwater City, of which little is known.

Xau-Tak seems to have little in the way of followers, with the cannibalistic Horrors of Mos Le'Harmless and the megalomaniac Karamthulhu being the only ones known. Rabid Jack and his crew are also thought to have at least partnered with Xau-Tak, and an Odd Old Man was brainwashed into serving it.
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Recently, Xau-Tak has started exerting its power over Gielinor once more. Towards the end of the Fifth Age, it was responsible for resurrecting Rabid Jack and his followers, who proceeded to use one of its temples to create an army of Zombie pirates.

A man known as Archibald Paldock also unearthed the Skeletal horror's skull, and Xau-Tak then spoke to and controlled Archibald via the skull, forcing him to collect bones to reform the horror. An adventurer helped Archibald collect these bones, but defeated the Skeletal horror before it was able to cause much damage. Although for some reason they decide to rebuild it every week for easy Elite clue scrolls that probably won't even give a decent reward.

When V returned to Gielinor soon after the beginning of the Sixth Age, he was quick to note that Xau-Tak's tendrils had already taken root on Gielinor. Xau-Tak was also seemingly able to give the World Guardian a nightmare, and influence a cave goblin in the Underworld to threaten the World Guardian.
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--Skeletal Horror--

The Skeletal Horror's connection to Xau-Tak is somehwat mysterious, but from what we can gather, it may be an avatar of Xau-Tak, left behind to exert power over Gielinor after its disappearance.



The horror's skull is seemingly similar to the pendant that Bandos used to control Zanik. While supposedly dating back to the Third Age, it was kept in pristine condition while buried in the Mos Le'Harmless caves. The Odd Old Man claims to have started hearing a "greater power" talk to him after collecting the skull, which was presumably Xau-Tak influencing him to collect bones to rebuild his avatar, in a similar fashion to how Bandos influenced Zanik.

Interestingly, the skull is said to have protected Archibald while he was carrying it around, scaring off pirates and lobsters. It also helped him remain consistent with his lies to us during the Odd Old Man and Fur 'n' Seek quests, and let him collect some fur for a new coat (albeit at the expense of pranking him, I guess Xau-Tak has a sense of humour?).

Also of note is that what appears to be a number of brown tendrils can be seen around the Skeletal Horror's arena. These are possibly the tendrils that V referred to, although they could just be weird bones. Kudos to Crondis for spotting these.
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--Rabid Jack--

Xau-Tak is seemingly responsible for bringing Rabid Jack and friends back as zombies. Captain Donnie revealed all the way back in Rum Deal that they're using one of Xau-Tak's temples to bring the dead back to life as zombies. Additionally, Mi-Gor and Mechanical Murphy are using the black rock from Mos Le'Harmless to create the Barrelchests, due to its unique effect on undead tissue.

And then there's the matter of Rabid Jack coming back after jumping into the ocean at the end of the Battle of the Archipelago. Exactly how he managed to come back from that is uncertain, but it's pretty probable Xau-Tak was behind it, due to its connection to the sea. Jack claims shortly before he jumps that the sea would never let him die due to how many deaths he had given it, so he probably made some kind of a deal with Xau-Tak. Maybe Xau-Tak agreed to protect Jack in exchange for Jack giving it lots of lives, it would certainly explain why it let Jack and his crew set up camp in the Cursed Archipelago.

But exactly how Xau-Tak managed to bring Jack back is another matter entirely. The Edicts were still up at the time, so it seems unlikely that he was able to just resurrect Jack out of the blue. Maybe Jack had one of Xau-Tak's artefacts from the Cursed Archipelago in that chest of his that enabled his resurrection, explaining why he jumped off with it. Or maybe there was some artefact under the spot where Jack jumped. Regardless, Xau-Tak managed it, enabling Rabid Jack and friends to become an army of the undead who aim to capture Mos Le'Harmless.

According to Mi-Gor, Rabid Jack and crew are currently based underwater, perhaps in the Underwater City, a location where Xau-Tak is thought to have a great degree of power.
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--The Future--

So what is Xau-Tak going to do next? The Edicts have fallen, allowing it to finally physically return to Gielinor, if it even left in the first place. The Skeletal Horror is still around after its defeat, being rebuilt weekly, but could easily escape. Rabid Jack and an army of Zombie pirates are still at large, plotting. Hundreds of thousands of adventurers are wearing masks imbued with Xau-Tak's power on their slayer tasks. Maybe that's not such a good idea.

So what will Xau-Tak itself do now that it's back? Aid Rabid Jack and his crew in their conquest? Or aim for bigger fish, and attack the other gods? Does it intent to reduce Gielinor to an ocean of undead corpses, like it did to other worlds?

We'll certainly be hearing of Xau-Tak more in the pirate quests, but as for its role in the Sixth Age, I couldn't say. Maybe with Bandos, Tuska and soon Sliske stepping down as villains, Xau-Tak will rise up to take their place. But regardless, we'll probably be seeing more of it soon, whether that be more small references or a full-blown appearance.

Either way, get hype.
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--References & Notes--

A list of all the content that Xau-Tak has been referenced in, to my knowledge. See my old thread here and my notes below for more detail on the references, although note the thread is somewhat outdated as we didn't know they were references to Xau-Tak at the time it was written.

Rum Deal - October 2005 - Rabid Jack's temple, Karamthulhu
Mos Le'Harmless - February 2006 - Pillar on Mos Le'Harmless
Rag and Bone Man - April 2006 - Skeletal Horror pt 1
Mos Le'Harmless Expansion - July 2006 - Jungle/Cave horrors, Black mask, Harmless caves, Stone tablet
Olaf's Quest - April 2007 - Cursed treasure
The Great Brain Robbery - March 2007 - Mi-Gor references "Down Below"
Summoning - January 2008 - Karamthulhu overlord
Rocking Out - June 2008 - Ex-ex parrot
Fur 'n' Seek - August 2009 - Skeletal Horror pt 2
A Clockwork Syringe - March 2011 - Strange black rocks
Lore Livestream - November 2012 - Rabid Jack said to be connected to the Underwater City
Meet the Partner - Again - December 2012 - Flying sea gods
Battle of Lumbridge - July 2013 - Sea gods
Hero's Welcome - June 2015 - Xau-Tak first named
The Light Within - August 2015 - Xau-Tak dream
Prifddinas Waterfall fishing - September 2015 - "Karamthulhu Pete" mentioned, Underwater City referenced
Nomad's Elegy - February 2016 - ***-Tak mentioned by a cave goblin
Kindred Spirits - May 2016 - Death at Sea loredump.
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---Connection to the Underwater City---

Xau-Tak's connection to the Underwater City isn't ever explicitly stated in-game, although it's certainly alluded to, and Rabid Jack's connection to the city was confirmed in a livestream back in 2012. In the Great Brain Robbery, Mi-Gor claims that he is meeting with Rabid Jack "down below", probably referring to the Underwater City.

And of course, in The Light WIthin, it's possible to have a nightmare of an underwater area with buildings made of black rock, with stone hands that grab onto you, almost certainly referring to the city. Underwater hands are spoken of again in relation to Xau-Tak in Death at Sea in Kindred Spirits, so I think it's safe to assume that Gustaf's trip to the city is what left him in the state he ended up in.

---Gender---

While Xau-Tak's gender is unknown, at this point I think it's pretty safe to say it's genderless, since Xau-Tak would have no interest in adopting one to appeal to mortals. Additionally, Mod Wilson implied in this post that the concept would be meaningless to it anyway. The Odd Old Man consistently refers to the Skeletal Horror as an "it", which is probably as close as we can get to in-game confirmation for now.

Nevertheless, in Rocking Out, Rabid Jack refers to the sea as "she". In the context of the quote, he is probably referring to how Xau-Tak would not let him die, and Ex-ex-parrot (who is revived by using a stone slab with a picture of a black mask on it), claims to have a mistress who lives in death. But both of these can just be written off as references.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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---Tier?---

From what the Odd Old Man says, Xau-Tak is capable of tapping into the world's energy (the Anima Mundi) to gain power. Manipulation of the Anima Mundi is usually reserved for Tier 2 gods, but others like Glouphrie are also known have to done so, so this doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Additionally, Xau-Tak was capable of exerting a great deal of power on Gielinor even while the edicts were up, possibly using an avatar and resurrecting a number of pirates. Since it's arguably been more successful at breaking the edicts than even Bandos, it implies that Xau-Tak is somewhat powerful. Taking all this information into account, I would say Xau-Tak could fall anywhere above Tier 4, maybe even has high as Tier 3 or 2.

But ultimately, Xau-Tak's tier doesn't really matter since it's just an arbitrary number & tiers are a very rough guideline. All we need to know is that Xau-Tak is pretty powerful.

---Pirate/Sea god?---

Xau-Tak has been pretty much confirmed to be the "Pirate god" referenced by Mod Osborne a couple of times. Additionally, it is probable that Xau-Tak is the "sea god" mentioned by John Strum (in Meet the Partner - Again) and the Drunken mariner (Battle of Lumbridge). While these references don't reveal much, if Xau-Tak is the sea god, it would mean that at least some knowledge of it has survived to the present day in sailor lore. Also, it means he can fly, if John is to be believed.
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---Olaf's Quest?---

Anyone remember Olaf's quest? That one Fremennik/Pirate quest that wasn't related to any of the others and had a really annoying RNG bridge thing? In the quest, we discover a wrecked ship in a small cove by the Fremennik Province. Inside, we discover some treasure, and a parchment that makes reference to a number of other ships that sunk "with a greater share of that cursed treasure".

This quest is barely a pirate quest, but... We never did find out what that Cursed Treasure was. But Rabid Jack is seen jumping overboard with a treasure chest, and and reference is made to something Gustaf brought onboard after his trip to what may have been the Underwater City driving some of the crew mad by singing to them, before crawling overboard.



---Karamthulhu---

The Karamthulhu seem to have a big connection to Xau-Tak. In addition to being sea dwellers with tentacles, their name is partially derived from that of C*hulhu, Lovecraft's most famous creation, and Xau-Tak is heavily inspired by Cthulhu. Additionally, like the black mask, they are referenced throughout and even outside of the pirate quest series. They're even thought to be one of the first summoning familiars created.

Interestingly enough, the Karamthulhu overlord claims to be a god
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It is a sad thing indeed when a god as powerful as I cannot gain recognition from the foolish mewling sheep of this 'surface' place.

Maybe Xau-Tak was originally a Karamthulhu before it ascended, and the other Karamthulhu have similar desires to attain godhood? Or maybe Xau-Tak is speaking through the Karamthulhu overlord familiar here. Or maybe Xau-Tak was actually just the Karamthulhu overlord familiar the entire time.

Also, the hermit crab pet refers to a "Karamthulhu Pete" who lives in a fishbowl. Xau-Tak's true name is Pete confirmed.
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---A glimpse into the Underwater City---


During The Light WIthin, if you fail the segment where you have to stay awake during Coeden's story, it is possible to have a nightmare that may provide a glimpse into the fabled Underwater City itself.

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You wake up in a strange landscape. Everywhere you look are obsidian pillars and slabs that suggest buildings, but are somehow subtly wrong in proportion and arrangement. The words 'seas rise, nations fall' are whispered in your ear over and over again, but every time you whip around you see nothing. It is utterly dark but somehow you can still see that there is nobody here with you.

The air feels thick, like treacle, and you suddenly realize that you are deep under water. You try to breathe but can't; after all you are surrounded by cold, black water at the bottom of a terrible, merciless ocean. You struggle, but your limbs won't move. Is it because of the pressure of the water, or could it be the myriad black, stone hands that have emerged from the buildings and are gripping you? In either case, you jerk awake with a gasp. It was all a dream! A terrible, terrible dream.

The description of strange buildings being made out of obsidian pillars and slabs certainly fits the ruins left on Mos Le'Harmless. The many black stone hands that are described gripping your limbs is also remarkably similar to those described trying to pull Gustaf back underwater in Death at Sea. What are these hands, followers of Xau-Tak, or Xau-Tak itself?

Either way, this dream is one of the most detailed Xau-Tak references in the game, and could probably benefit from further scrutiny.
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---The Big Question: What actually happened to Xau-Tak?---


This is kind of the big question that Kindred Spirits and Death at Sea left us with: WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO XAU-TAK. After the incident that left the Cursed Archipelago reduced to rubble, Xau-Tak proceeded to do absolutely nothing until the late Fifth Age. It (or something else) destroyed a whole area, and then proceeded to do nothing besides mess with the crew of Glory of Zaros.

To answer this question, we must first ask... what actually caused the Cursed Archipelago to be destroyed? Xau-Tak itself destroying the area is the most obvious possibility, but it leaves us with the question of why. From what we've seen of the bordering islands such as Mos Le'Harmless and Harmony, the area was teeming with artefacts of Xau-Tak's power. And even if it wanted to destroy such an area, why would it stop there? Why not go for all of Gielinor?

And that brings us to the other possibility: Something else destroyed it. Something else did something to actually try and stop Xau-Tak. Something else actually managed to severely weaken or imprison Xau-Tak, explaining why its activities since have been far more subtle than the creature who supposedly reduces planets to an ocean of corpses.

Proposal: Some powerful entity, fearing just how dangerous Xau-Tak is, fights it, ending up with Xau-Tak trapped in the Underwater City, with the destruction of the Cursed Archipelago being collateral damage from their fight.

Since then, Xau-Tak has been forced to use proxies such as the Skeletal Horror and Rabid Jack to exert its influence. And the reason it was able to bypass the Edicts of Guthix? It never left Gielinor in the first place. It's been here, trapped in the Underwater City, since the Second Age.

As we know, Xau-Tak is inspired by Cthulhu, and the Underwater City is inspired by R'lyeh. So for Xau-Tak to be trapped in the Underwater City would be fitting.
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30-Oct-2015 20:52:42 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2016 14:25:53 by Wahisietel

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But what entity would be powerful enough to manage such a feat? What entity has a huge number of aquatic minions, and another group of followers near the Cursed Archipelago known for their naval ability?



Bandos.

Bandos has Sea Trolls. He has Mogres. He has Cyclopes in the Arc, which is relatively close to the Cursed Archipelago. To say that Bandos never encountered Xau-Tak would be incredibly unlikely - we know he's been in the area, and he bred underwater Trolls and Ogres for some reason or another. Bandos is the only known god with an actual Navy - and why would the War God have one if not for war?

And he's certainly got power. Back in the Second Age, he would have been one of the most powerful gods active on Gielinor, behind only Seren and Zaros. The only thing we're really missing is motive, which can be explained easily enough. Even the God of War has his limits - he is not interested in total annihilation of a planet, he just wants endless war. Even with Yu'biusk, it took thousands of years before he managed to accidentally destroy it. Bandos would have been freshly arrived on Gielinor at the time he would have encountered Xau-Tak too, and would probably not take too kindly to someone else ruining his potential fun. So he fought Xau-Tak until it was trapped in the Underwater City. This could be the result of either Bandos himself trapping it, knowing that he was outclassed and unable to actually kill Xau-Tak without greater collateral damage than a series of islands. Or maybe Xau-Tak trapped itself there as a means of self-preservation.

The only real problem with this theory is that V claims to have visited worlds Xau-Tak destroyed back in the Fourth or Fifth Age. But he does never actually claim to have encountered Xau-Tak himself, so it's probable that they were destroyed long before he arrived there.

tl;dr: Bandos fought Xau-Tak, it got trapped in the Underwater City, and Xau-Tak is still there.
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30-Oct-2015 20:52:46 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2016 14:28:09 by Wahisietel

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RogueColin said:
What about the Grotesque? I feel like it would fit nicely into the descriptions given.


Not connected to a series of locations released since 2005, and not pirate-related.
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05-Nov-2015 11:59:34

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I doubt the monkeys are relevant. Ninja monkeys were only mentioned in the Pirate quest pitch because, you know, Pirates vs Ninjas. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

14-Nov-2015 12:17:35

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Yeah I fail to see how Amascut has anything to do with Xau-Tak. Most of the things you used to come to that conclusion are either faulty or big leaps of logic.

For one, Amascut is not the leader of the Slayer Masters, and has no more connection to Xau-Tak than any of the others do. Besides assigning Cave horrors, anyway... which Chaeldar also does so it's a moot point.
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15-Nov-2015 18:45:53

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I'm the one that wrote the WGS transcript. Duradel doesn't worship Amascut, Lapalok makes that clear.

Either way this discussion is extremely off-topic.
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17-Nov-2015 13:58:54

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Not going to bother arguing about the whole Amascut being the leader of the Slayer Masters thing, since it doesn't make any sense (especially when you remember Chaeldar is a thing).

But putting that aside, it's a pretty big leap to go from "Amascut assigns monsters that follow Xau-Tak" to "Amascut is in cahoots with Xau-Tak". If anything the opposite is implied. And if you're gonna use the fact that the Black mask is used to create the slayer helm as evidence, then does that mean Amascut is working with Kerapac, since the Focus sight and Hexcrest are also used to creature the helm?

Also since it was mentioned previously in the thread, the black stone mentioned by Honovi was in all likelihood just the pieces of the ritual marker.
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18-Nov-2015 22:24:49

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Clearly we must scour Let Them Eat Pie for references to Xau-Tak. Maybe the pie represents Xau-Tak's evil, and what happens Rolo represents what Xau-Tak does to those who oppose it.

But more seriously I'd imagine there are some references in the Summoning skill we haven't found. There's tons of dialogue there, surely the Ex-ex-parrot can't be the only reference.

Maybe the Karamthulhu overlord (or Karamthulhu Pete as the Hermit crab calls it) is related? It claims to be a god, and has tentacles...
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20-Nov-2015 12:29:05

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Ren_Derek said:
I know Broken Home is popularly theorized to be heavy in the Zarosian / Mahjarrat storylines, but there is a pretty big tentacled mass in this home that just so happens to be designed by our own Mod Wilson...

Is it possible that everything went insane under influence by Xau-Tak, or maybe it's avatar, the Skeletal Horror, given it's right across the street...


True, but the big tentacled mass in Broken Home is a Chthonian demon - they're like that anyway. And I think Mod Jack had more to do with Broken Home's story than WIlson, Ollie & Nexus.
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20-Nov-2015 12:46:16

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So continuing on the train of thought that Karamthulhu are relevant, maybe these pieces of Hermit crab dialogue are relevant too?

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Hermit crab: Now you will give me fish!
Player: It doesn't really work like that.
Hermit crab: Curses! Is it because I'm not wearing a fishbowl?
Player: What would that have to do with anything?
Hermit crab: My friend Karamthulhu Pete says it works for him all the time.


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Hermit crab: You know, this place is too dry, but at least I don't have to worry about giant stone hands.
Player: Giant stone what?
Hermit crab: I can't tell you! Last time I tried I was locked in an aquarium by a unicorn-man.


The first piece of dialogue doesn't seem to reveal anything besides the fact that there's a Karamthulhu Overlord called Pete, but the second appears to be referencing something, but dunno if it's RuneScape related.

Anyway, at this point I'm pretty sure Karamthulhu are at least somewhat relevant to Xau-Tak - evil pirate related, aquatic creatures named after C*hulhu are too big of a coincidence to ignore.

Interestingly, the Karamthulhu overlord was one of the first summoning creatures created - the Karamthulhu item released with Rum Deal used to have a ton of follower code connected to it, so stuff like Hi-alching didn't work on it and said it was a follower. At one point dying with a Karamthulhu in your inventory even caused a Karamthulhu NPC to appear. This isn't really that relevant to Xau-Tak but still somewhat interesting I guess?
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Jakir said:
Mod Wilson said:
So the Amascut storyline is, as it stands, not connected to Xau-Tak.


That doesn't mean it will remain unconnected. And game mechanics that defy story mechanics are immersion breaking so I feel the mechanics behind how the slayer masks/dragonslayer gloves work deserve some explanation.

If they were not made with Amascut's goals in mind I feel it needs to be addressed how tasks are assigned and what causes these items to operate on the same principal. Just a line or two thrown in would explain something that would otherwise plague the minds of curious lorehounds for ...well probably forever because I doubt it would ever get a proper answer.


Not every single gameplay mechanic needs an explanation. We don't even have explanations stuff like why eating sharks in one bite heals our wounds.

An artefact imbued with the power of a god increasing your strength against monsters you're assigned to kill doesn't really need explaining, and I don't think anyone expects it to be.
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ANYWAY, back on topic, have a list of content to look over for Xau-Tak references! These are the only things I can find that Mod Wilson contributed to that aren't already in the thread, but I am likely missing many. I crossed out stuff that I've looked over already, but feel free to take another look.

Mogre miniquest
Recipe for Disaster: Freeing Pirate Pete
Watchtower quest
Summoning
Let Them Eat Pie
Wolf Whistle
Death Plateau
Druidic Ritual
Bringing Home the Bacon
Cabbage Facepunch Bonanza

I'm sure we'll find something in Let Them Eat Pie that will change everything.
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22-Nov-2015 19:50:41

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Good thoughts. I'm doubtful that the lake is connected due to what's in the game itself not really implying a connection, and Xau-Tak tends to stick to the east of the map. Shouldn't really have a major presence in Taverley.

The Bringing Home the Bacon machine is a more promising lead - at the moment it's just a malevolent spirit that's not really explained, so ***-Tak could definitely have something to do with it. Not sure it really fits Xau-Tak's MO though. Needs further investigation.
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The thing is, Eli claims that there's so much spiritual energy in the cellar due to the amount of "accidents" that have occurred there - doesn't seem to be any Xau-Tak related object or anything connected to it. But I guess since this would be Sixth Age content, Xau-Tak itself could have taken up residence there after it noticed how many people Eli was killing - more death for it to empower itself, I guess? You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Cybernet377 said:
I believe that Rabid Jack's Resurrection and the ships in Olaf's quest can be tied together.

The ship in Olaf implies that the "Cursed Treasure" was responsible for the deaths of the crew, abut I believe that the real culprit is the treasure chests that it was found and transported in.

Reasons:

1. All of the crew aside from Olaf's grandfather turned into undead.
2. The treasure itself is mundane, we looted it without care or repercussions.
3. Ulrich appeared when we touched the chest, not the treasure.


Tying this to the Pirate quests is what Rabid jack had with him when he was turned undead by Xau-Tak. He had his clothes and his weapon, but before jumping overboard, he specifically grabbed a small treasure chest that wasn't kept in the belly with all the other things his ship likely had, but next to the ship's wheel, so that it would constantly be next to him while he was on deck. An odd choice of a last thing to grab when cornered by the biggest powers in the eastern sea.

Unless he needed the chest in order to be revived from death.


Yeah, seems likely that Jack's chest contained more than his lunch. And it could very well be connected to the cursed treasure.

Serenist Elf said:
not 100% sure if it's relevant since its a future update, but the underwater boss (if it is to happen) might have something to do with all this


The underwater city (and boss) is almost certainly connected to Xau-Tak, we know from The Great Brain Robbery that Rabid Jack, Mi-Gor and co are currently based underwater. And if a livestream from a while ago is to be believed, they're based in the underwater city itself.

We need to get Underwater city to win next year's new area poll! But sadly I think Menaphos will probably win - and while that is nice... it's just another desert city - we've got plenty of those already. Would be nice to have something unique.
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Padomenes said:
Mod Wilson said:
Hi there. Just a quick post to try and clear something up. Obviously I can't go into spoilers, but
all the Xau-Tak references I have been working into the game have been in content I have worked on as a major contributor
, as other posters have noticed. Or not noticed, as the case may be. ;) In any case,
I didn't work on the
slayer helmets,
core slayer skill
or desert quests. So the Amascut storyline is, as it stands, not connected to Xau-Tak.

Keep looking though, you've not found all the clues yet!


Why are you quoting something originally posted in this thread?

Anyway, back on topic, I should really update the thread with the Karamthulhu stuff, and possibly the Bacon machine. Still need to take a more in depth look at Summoning and other stuff.
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Crassians have pretty much no lore behind them, and are on the other side of the sea from where Xau-Tak is active. Not related.

TBH the Crassians on Tutorial Island didn't even make sense, they're supposed to be further west, with Mogres hanging around the Muskipper point area. But whatever.
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Okay, so there is indeed a Xau-Tak reference in the quest, but apparently only some players received it? It apparently happens at the end of the Yu'biusk sequence of the quest.

Original message details are unavailable.
Cave goblin: Do you really think you can save them, Player? You can't. There is a grinding darkness against which your soul shall be lathed. And this is Xau-Tak.


If any of you guys received it, It'd be nice to know what you were doing at the time and what items you had in your inventory/equipped.
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Cthris said:
I got the dialog.

I doubt items had anything to do with it, that being said I was wearing the Grotesque Armour override which has a tentative connection at best.

The actual items I had were death lotus set, ascension bolts, wyvern cross bow, ring of Charos glavian boots, and blood amulet of fury.

Choice was probably the trigger.

I did not kill Zanik, I let Nomad escape with a shard. (Which btw influences nomads dialog during the boss fight), i'll add more choices as I think of them.


How many cave goblins were alive?
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Lethalintent said:
Wahisietel said:
At this point I'm fairly sure it's either completely random or linked to having a specific number of cave goblins alive.


Goblins, nope.

Random? Maybe, But what'd be the point?

Likely requires a relevant quest to be completed.

Is there anyone with a quest cape that didn't get the dialogue?


I have a master quest cape. I didn't get the dialogue.
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Any-sao said:
Snip

Shortly before I made this thread, it was pretty heavily implied at RuneFest that Xau-Tak was the "pirate god" that Wilson had been planning for quite some time. I had a thread on this subject previously, but it was just the pieces of the puzzle without Xau-Tak tying them all together. I had privately theorised that maybe Xau-Tak was connected to these puzzle pieces a few days prior to RuneFest, but didn't create the new thread until after Osborne's reveal. References to a pirate god were previously made by Osborne as early as 2014. So ***-Tak's connection to the pirates was planned as far back as then.

Anyway, the stuff in the pirate quests has ALWAYS been pointing towards a greater power behind things, it's just that many people didn't pick up on it. Granted, most of the references were small and relatively easy to miss, such as the references to Rabid Jack using a temple to resurrect the dead. But just how many references were made to the Cave horrors and Black masks should have been pretty difficult to miss, especially after the Skeletal horror made its debut.

So no, it's not exactly out of left-field for Xau-Tak to be relevant to the pirate quests, especially considering some of us had been speculating about there being a greater mystery for years before Xau-Tak was even named.
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oClock said:
KrazydragonL said:
As the one mod raven originally replied to, he was providing subtle hints about the queen being a joinable faction that may not necessarily be as bad as V described her. This partially solidifies that V is a bit biased and thus we shouldn't take his facts as truth

V followed the guthixian ideal that all gods are bad period (except he himself, unlike Guthix who was very unhappy being a god). I do agree Jagex hasn't made the best nuanced characters, but fire often represents life - the Queen might be a god of life. I can't see the character that resurrected Jack and his army being a good gal, though.

I for one welcome our new fire overlady.


Nah, V liked Marimbo too, implied she may have attended his return party.
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Check out the RuneScape Idle Adventure's twitter, there's a picture of the main character fighting with a giant, green, Karamthulhu. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Pupppy said:
I think the Sea Monsters from fake-aagi's storyline actually have the excuse to be that big without needing to be the god Xau-Tak :P


What does Kami have to do with anything?
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Pupppy said:
No, I mean, her storyline mentions sea monsters that absorb the power of the Anima Mundi, and they get to giant sizes for so :)

Besides, I'd think Xau-Tak would look more fearsome and alien than a giant squid :P


Yeah, but the creature in question is a Karamthulhu, who are closely associated with the Pirate storyline and probably Xau-Tak too. One of them even claims to be a god.

So ***-Tak related the very least.
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I think it probable that Xau-Tak may have been a Karamthulhu originally, they certainly fit the bill of Lovecraftian. They're even named after his most famous creation. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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So here's some food for thought - what if the Sea slugs and Mother Mallum are related to Xau-Tak? They're certainly "lovecraftian ocean dwellers", and we use Sluglings (which are relatives of the Sea slugs according to Braindeath) to make 'rum' back in the Rum Deal quest.

Would help explain why 'rum' has the properties the pirates need for the creation of the barrelchests.
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Megical Man said:
Wahisietel said:
So here's some food for thought - what if the Sea slugs and Mother Mallum are related to Xau-Tak? They're certainly "lovecraftian ocean dwellers", and we use Sluglings (which are relatives of the Sea slugs according to Braindeath) to make 'rum' back in the Rum Deal quest.

Would help explain why 'rum' has the properties the pirates need for the creation of the barrelchests.


I'm not going to lie, I've nerded out and done some research into mysterious figures in Runescape and how they relate to the C*hulhu Mythos very well, and maybe that they are connected in some way.

The only one I can come out and say for sure (at least, to me) is that:
Mother Mallum/Sea slugs= Glaaki, or possible Yidhra


Other notable creatures include:
-Agoroth/Crassians
-The entity in Tolna's Rift
-Xau-Tak (who I'm hoping turns out to be the connecting pieces between all of these creates)
-The giant basilisk mentioned in Heroes Welcome

I just think they could easily connect all of these creates with the introduction of Xau-Tak.


Agoroth/Crassians are unlikely to be related to Xau-Tak, since they're pretty much on the opposite side of the ocean and have no connection to the undead.

The entity in Tolna's Rift was likely a remnant of Loarnab's power.
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22-Mar-2016 18:24:32

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Interestingly enough, a piece of dialogue in Kennith's Concerns may actually support the theory that there was a greater power behind Mother Mallum (and Kennith).

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Player: They might have a point... At least this particular ordeal is over.
Ezekial Lovecraft: I wish I could believe that, but I don't think all this happened at the whim of a small, power-crazed child. There is something fundamentally wrong in Witchaven and it won't be addressed until the sea slugs are dealt with, once and for all.


Could easily be referring to Xau-Tak :P. Maybe some artefacts or traces of its energy were in or around Witchaven, causing all the weird stuff like the Sea slugs and Kennith's powers to happen.

In all likelihood though, it's probably just an unrelated plot idea that was ignored when Salt in the Wound happened, like many things in the series.

I personally doubt there is actually any developer intent for any connection between the Sea slugs and Xau-Tak, since the only real connection they have is the Sea slug cameo in Rum Deal. Rum Deal pre-dated the Slug Menace by a year or so, meaning most of the "lovecraftian" aspects of the Sea slugs didn't exist at the time. Wilson also had no known involvement in the slug quests, further ruling out any intended connection.

It's still fun to consider though. Developer intent or not, an argument can definitely be made for a connection.
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Does anyone know if Mod Wilson worked on The Light Within? As pointed out on Reddit, one of the nightmares during the Coeden portion of the quest can be interpreted as pretty blatantly Xau-Tak related.

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You wake up in a strange landscape. Everywhere you look are obsidian pillars and slabs that suggest buildings, but are somehow subtly wrong in proportion and arrangement. The words seas rise, nations fall' are whispered in your ear over and over again, but every time you whip around you see nothing. It is utterly dark but somehow you can still see that there is nobody here with you. The air feels thick, like treacle, and you suddenly realize that you are deep under water. You try to breathe but can't; after all you are surrounded by cold, black water at the bottom of a terrible, merciless ocean. You struggle, but your limbs won't move. Is it because of the pressure of the water, or could it be the myriad black, stone hands that have emerged from the buildings and are gripping you? In either case, you jerk awake with a gasp. It was all a dream! A terrible, terrible dream


You've got black obsidian pillars and slabs like on Mos Le Harmless, oceans, and some terrible creature killing you. This could be a huge lead.
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Raven confirmed on twitter that Wilson was the one who coded the nightmares. So yes, definitely a Xau-Tak reference. And probably an Underwater City reference too.

Also, I finally got around to updating the thread to reflect Nomad's Elegy and other newly discovered stuff. There are also now sections on the Karamthulhu and The Light Within dream. Check em out if you want.
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Broken Home's storyline was done by Mod Jack, and IIIRC Seneci**** was the cause of madness. Of course, Chthonian demons are also partially based on Lovecraft, so a connection is possible. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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So now that we know about the Xau-Tak reference in The Light Within, we can see that there's another reference to it in the the Hermit crab pet's dialogue.
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Hermit crab: You know, this place is too dry, but at least I don't have to worry about giant stone hands.
Player: Giant stone what?
Hermit crab: I can't tell you! Last time I tried I was locked in an aquarium by a unicorn-man.

The Light WIthin dialogue for reference:
Original message details are unavailable.
You struggle, but your limbs won't move. Is it because of the pressure of the water, or could it be the myriad black, stone hands that have emerged from the buildings and are gripping you?

So stone hands have something to do with Xau-Tak, apparently. And the Hermit crab has seemingly been to the Underwater City.
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As a shameless bit of self promotion, support this RuneLabs idea if you want to try and get the Underwater City and a pirate quest for more Xau-Tak content in 2017. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Yeah, an underwater city is referenced, but it being "raised back up to land" doesn't really go with the lore about it we've got from elsewhere, which implies it's always been underwater. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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I'll write up more thoughts later, but for now, I'll just say this.

Sliske's master isn't Xau-Tak. Stop suggesting it. Think about it logically, Osborne would never let that happen.
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Alaz said:
I wonder who the "them" is that is referenced by Xau-Tak? Everyone on Gielinor? Could the "spiral of time" refer to the cycle of creation and destruction by the Elder Gods? Perhaps he means "them" as the Elder Gods? (doubtful) And what is the "gaping maw of eternity"...

edit: I guess it could be about the Barrows Brothers / hostages, but that seems like such a small matter to be worthy of sending a message 4 ages into the future.......


The weird thing about this is... In every context it appears, it means something different.

In Nomad's Elegy, it refers to the cave goblins. In this quest, it refers to the Barrows Brothers/hostages.

There is apparently a third instance of the quote somewhere in the game, but we have no idea where.
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Slayer Gem said:
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There is apparently a third instance of the quote somewhere in the game, but we have no idea where.


How do you know there is a third quote ingame?


The third quote is Original message details are unavailable.
Do you really think you can save them Player? You can't. There is an atrocity written in black stone. And this is Xau-Tak.


We only know of this because Wilson told us about it
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Xau-Tak knowing of us in the Second Age doesn't necessarily necessitate premonition. I mean, we were technically around in the First Age, weren't we? You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Captain Lime said:
Wahisietel said:
Xau-Tak knowing of us in the Second Age doesn't necessarily necessitate premonition. I mean, we were technically around in the First Age, weren't we?


It's also possible that WE'RE the ones being affected in all this. Xau-tak could be directly tapping into our minds and making us read/hear things that are not actually there. It's possible that Death at Sea could have said any number of things.


Very possible, especially considering the Xau-Tak nightmare in The Light Within. Xau-Tak already has a history of influencing us...
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Xau-Tak being anl elder god really doesn't fit, since they've gone around multiple worlds drstroying stuff, and V survived an encounter with them apparently.

Xau-Tak being Bandos-tier would make the most sense IMO. Which is still pretty damn powerful. Also. Xau-Tak is probably a squid, which is why it's so weird and alien.
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Mod Wilson said:
Hey there. Much as I enjoyed seeing this thread pop up I'd like to confirm something; the mysterious voice in that cutscene is NOT Xau-Tak. Its words carry significantly more weight. ;)

...No, literally*****;_> If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’* fist.


Now that that's out of the way, let's get back to speculating.

What do you think happened to the Mos Le Harmless civilization? Did Xau-Tak itself destroy it, or some other force? What was the artefact that was brought aboard the ship?
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Well, the skull does have a history of scaring sailors, so it's certainly possible. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
Xau-Tak, Xau-Tak!


...anyway, I did have a bit of a look for hidden Xau-Tak dialogue with the Hermit crab pet yesterday. Tried taking it to centaurs, giving it a fishbowl, showing it a Karamthulhu, taking it to Xau-Tak's monolith, feeding it black stone fragments, ect.

Nothing worked, unfortunately. So I think we can assume the only Xau-Tak references it has are to Karamthulhu Pete and the giant stone hands.

Although one does wonder why a centaur locked the hermit crab in an aquarium for talking about giant stone hands...
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So, regarding the treasure that Gustaf brought aboard in Death at Sea. There are two other references to treasure that are possibly connected to Xau-Tak. There's the chest that Rabid Jack jumped overboard with, and the "cursed treasure" from Olaf's Quest.

Could these all be related?
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The Mos Le'Hamless horrors probably share an ancestor with gorillas, certainly. But beyond that, I doubt there's any connection. Especially since Ape Atoll (and the Pest Control islands) are on the opposite side of the continent.

Anyway, do you guys think the sea creature that fought Gentleman Mallard (the pirate leader) has anything to do with Xau-Tak? It's described as being enormous and possessing tentacles. Mallard was never seen again after being dragged off by the creature, but his rapier and a tentacle washed up on Mos Le'Harmless some time after the battle.

Would anyone mind transcribing the dialogue about the incident? It can be obtained by purchasing a Rapier from Smith on the Mos Le'Harmless docks.
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Xau-Tak being imprisoned within the Underwater City (by Guthix?) instead of banished with the other gods seems like it might be possible, considering how much they're inspired by C*hulhu. But we do know that Xau-Tak was seemingly elsewhere in at least the Fourth Age, since V encountered worlds that Xau-Tak had travelled to. But I guess Xau-Tak could have destroyed those worlds before arriving to Gielinor for the first time, and V was just really late.

Or maybe Xau-Tak's in a similar situation to how Zamorak was with Daemonheim. Was able to "return" to Gielinor via a rift in the Underwater City, but was unable to leave it directly, and so ended up influencing the world indirectly (via Jack, Skeletal Horror, ect).

But anyway, while we're on the subject of stuff that inspired Xau-Tak... I'm pretty sure the black stone monolith on Mos Le'Harmless is a reference to "The Black Stone" by Robert E. Howard. It's considered part of the C*hulhu mythos, and centers around a black stone monolith outside a village.
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Megical Man said:
Has anybody noted the giant squid they had some artwork of during the Idle Adventure live stream that Sally had in her arms? (at 25:00)

Probably not Xau-Tak related, but still worth a mention.


I noticed it, and promptly headcanoned that Xau-Tak is a Karamthulhu.

Makes me wonder if we'll get any Xau-Tak lore in idle adventures. Highly suspicious that they made concept art of Sally with a giant Karamthulhu...
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Since we know Xau-Tak's an ocean-dwelling sea monster with tentacles based on C*hulhu, I'm still of the opinion that Xau-Tak is probably an ascended Karamthulhu.

Anyway. Olaf's quest. Olaf says that he thinks his grandfather's treasure is cursed, since his ship was wrecked while he was looking for it. Ulfric's parchment also says that the treasure is cursed, and that the ships carrying it were either sunken or crashed. As we see in the quest, he and his crew were turned into undead to protect it.

So a mysterious cursed treasure connected to the ocean and the undead. I think we can safely say it's related to Xau-Tak at this point?
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Olaf claims the treasure being cursed was why his ship was wrecked, but his general incompetence was probably the real reason, yeah. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

08-Jun-2016 23:48:15

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Eh, I'm still hopeful that the Sea Slugs will be tied in to Xau-Tak, since they are very loosely connected to the pirate series (Sluglings in Rum Deal), and clearly Lovecraft inspired. SITW left enough loose ends unresolved (Kennith's powers, Sea Slug controlled lobsters, Captain Marlin, ect.) that a Xau-Tak related sequel would be nice.

There's no hidden stuff in Broken Home, they had a very tight schedule and a tiny text budget, which is why we still haven't got the post-quest dialogue with Seneci****.

Also, apparently this thread is linked to from TVTropes.
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Kennith and Rabid Jack do not have sea slugs, lol. If they did, they wouldn't have any free will.

Ezekial DOES imply that Kennith's powers have a connection to the Slugs, and that there's "something fundamentally wrong with Witchaven that won't be addressed until the slugs are dealt with."
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12-Jun-2016 20:12:51

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The bearded man is pretty much confirmed to be the Smuggler at this point. And I seriously doubt Xau-Tak has any connection to Daemonheim. I like the idea of something besides Zamorak being at the bottom of Daemonheim, explaining why Bilrach went mad... but Dishonour among Thieves pretty much killed any chance of that happening. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

19-Jun-2016 21:21:32

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Since Xau-Tak is inspired by C*hulhu, and the Underwater City is inspired by R'lyeh, I think it's probably pretty safe to assume that Xau-Tak was in the Underwater City while the edicts were still up. Maybe Guthix trapped it there instead of banishing it? Or maybe it hid there.

While V does claim to have gone to worlds that Xau-Tak had destroyed in the Fourth/Fifth Ages, for all we know they could have been destroyed in the Third Age or earlier, so ***-Tak hasn't necessarily been elsewhere since the Edicts were put up. Although if that's the case, V was either unaware that Xau-Tak wasn't banished, or that he was unaware Xau-Tak was ever on Gielinor in the first place, and only noticed once he returned at the start of the Sixth Age.

Also, I'm probably late to notice this, but I just found out that Karamthulhus can be used in place of Sluglings when brewing Braindeath 'rum' in Rum Deal. The conspiracy stretches even deeper!
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Satans exile said:
Not sure if this has been posted before but I just did a ports mission for The Exile and he mentioned having to take a shipment of black rocks to daemonheim.


Probably the ritual marker. Even though it isn't black.
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I like the idea of Xau-Tak's origins intentionally being left a mystery. One day there was no Xau-Tak, and then one day there was. Some characters could possibly provide some speculation on Xau's origins, but I don't think we should have a definitive one.

Anyway, here's a question I haven't really seen anyone asking: What does Xau-Tak want? What is it's end goal? We know Xau-Tak likes resurrecting the dead, and has apparently destroyed various worlds... but to what aim?
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Certainly, I doubt we'd be able to comprehend the reasons behind Xau-Tak's goals... but its actions surely serve some purpose.

We know Xau-Tak's main MO is resurrecting the dead, and probably made a deal with Rabid Jack to protect him in exchange for the death Jack provided. But to what purpose? What does Xau-Tak intend to do with so many undead? Why is it so interested in us?

And if Xau-Tak has been on Gielinor since the Second Age...

Why hasn't Gielinor been destroyed yet?
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I guess it's possible that Xau-Tak is just a sadist, but that would be kind of disappointing. It clearly intends to do something with that army of undead. Maybe it's goal is total conquest of Gielinor, before it moves on to the next world?

Regarding why it hasn't destroyed Gielinor yet... We never did find out what caused the destruction of the Cursed Archipelago. What if the destruction of the area was the result of someone sealing Xau-Tak in the Underwater City back in the Second Age? And that's why it hasn't really done anything besides stay in the shadows since?

Certainly, Xau-Tak's actions on Gielinor seem to be pretty different from the other worlds V described.
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So, if we take the theory of Xau-Tak being sealed away in the Underwater City back in the Second Age as true... The question remains of who (or what) sealed it.

If we limit possibilities to gods and powerful characters, we can narrow down things considerably.

Zaros - It can't have been Zaros, as Sliske knew nothing of Xau-Tak. Sliske would have known if other Zarosians were responsible too.
V - Hero's Welcome makes it clear he didn't know Xau-Tak on Gielinor in the Second Age.
Bandos - He wasn't on Gielinor yet.
Armadyl - He refuses to participate in any conflict unless someone else tells him to, so extremely unlikely.
Brassica Prime - No.
Desert Pantheon - Pretty close geographically to the Cursed Archipelago, but they have never had any activity outside of the desert. Also, Tumeken was recently deceased, so Elidinis and the others would have been busy recovering.
Seren - Seren was on the other side of Gielinor, and going to the other side of the world to fight another god would be completely out of character.
Marimbo - On the other side of the world from the Cursed Archipelago, and I doubt she would be powerful enough to actually pull it off. The Horrors of Mos Le'Harmless are ape-like, so we probably shouldn't rule her out entirely.
The Dragonkin - They would have been very weak in comparison to a god (or even a Mahjarrat) at the time, so pretty unlikely. They do have a connection to the East though, and it's possible that their castle is on the Cursed Archipelago.
Vorago, Sally or something - We know nothing of their activities in the 2nd Age, so can't say.

This leaves Saradomin as the only likely candidate (unless it was a character that hasn't been mentioned yet). Relatively powerful, and fighting "evil" gods is kind of his thing. We know pretty much nothing about his actions in the 2nd Age, beyond that he wasn't actively warring with Zaros. Maybe he was busy with Xau-Tak?
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Could've sworn that it was in the God Wars, but you're correct - Bandos arrived in the Second Age. So we can't rule him out.

That said... Bandos sealing Xau-Tak away instead of waging war against it would be out of character. Especially considering Bandos would probably be the god with the biggest chance of defeating Xau-Tak. He was (at the time) one of the most powerful gods on Gielinor, and possessed at least two aquatic races (Mogres and Sea trolls).

That being said... I guess it's possible that Xau-Tak and Bandos DID actually wage war against one another, and Xau-Tak being sealed in the underwater city was just the end result. But what events could lead to that happening?

Consider this: What if Bandos actually successfully managed to defeat Xau-Tak? But refusing to be defeated, Xau-Tak destroyed the area in an act of rage, and hid in the Underwater City to recover its power?

I dunno. Just throwing ideas out there. But the more I think about it the more I think that Xau-Tak and Bandos probably had SOME kind of encounter in the past.
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The main reasons we assume Xau-Tak to be pretty powerful is that it has apparently destroyed planets in the past (leaving behind oceans of of undead corpses), and that the Odd Old Man claims that the Skeletal Horror gained its power by "tapping into the world's life-force", otherwise known as the Anima Mundi. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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I kind of hope that Jagex will tie the Dagannoth, Sea Slugs and Crassians into Xau-Tak, since they're all Lovecraftian sea creatures. But until they do (besides the very minor Sea Slug involvement in Rum Deal), I don't think it's worth speculating over. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

14-Jul-2016 11:39:32

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Stuff that I should probably add to the thread but am too busy procrastinating to actually add them:

*Info we learned from Kindred Spirits
*The theorised battle between Xau-Tak and Bandos, that ended with the former trapped in/retreating to the Underwater City.
*Gentleman Mallard's disappearance at the tentacles of a gigantic sea creature.
*Possibly stuff from the Arc. At the very least we'll probably be able to conclusively rule out it being the Cursed Archipelago.
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So... there's apparently a ship in Wushanko known as "The Harbinger". Apparently many ghost stories are told about it.

Could it be connected to Rabid Jack and Xau-Tak?
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25-Jul-2016 23:26:01

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If there ever WAS a time where Xau-Tak was a mortal (or something else we could comprehend), then by the present day it has ascended to the point where what it once was is completely irrelevant.

This is true to an extent with all the gods, but they generally adapt more "human" mannerisms and stuff because they have an interest in being relatable to their followers. Even the gods that were never mortal (Seren and Zaros) have adopted genders (and in the case of the former, a much more elvish appearance).

Xau-Tak has no such need or desire to be relatable though. All of its followers are either truly terrible people, brainwashed, or outright insane. It has a goal and will achieve it - everything else is irrelevant.
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04-Aug-2016 22:11:40 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2016 22:13:37 by Wahisietel

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Xau-Tak is unlikely to be connected to stuff that Mod Wilson didn't work on, and the 2005 update that introduced Xau-Tak was likely Rum Deal.

That being said, I expect that we'll see some Xau-Tak references when Dagannoth Kings Hard Mode launches next month...
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Finally got around to updating the thread to reflect new information. Page 2, post 2 has a relatively big theory regarding what happened to Xau-Tak after the events of Death at Sea, so check it out if you want.

We should probably expect to see more Xau-Tak stuff soon, either with the Dagannoth Kings rework, or Tale of Nomad. We might also learn a bit at RuneFest, so keep an eye out.
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Just because we don't know of Bandos suffering any causalities doesn't mean he didn't. The fact an entire area was apparently destroyed overnight certainly implies he and his followers suffered to some degree. But Bandos would probably use any measures at his disposal to ensure both victory and his own safety anyway. Why risk things when he can come up with a way to deal with the situation and keep himself safe at the same time?

As to why he never said anything about what happened, maybe he considered what he did cowardly, or otherwise not fitting in with his philosophy? He'd hardly want to advertise the fact that he was either unable to kill something, or that he gave it mercy. Heck, it's possible that he did actually intend to kill Xau-Tak, and maybe that he didn't even know that Xau-Tak survived.

If he did know, as to why he never did it again, it could be that the circumstances that allowed such a thing to happen were unique to Xau-Tak. Like Xau-Tak doing it to itself to recover after fighting with Bandos or something. Even if Bandos were able to replicate the circumstances, he wouldn't have a desire to, since he finds the actual fight more enjoyable than victory.

I get the feeling that Xau-Tak may have changed its approach to things since then, so there's no real telling what it would do after getting free. And Zaros and Seren are currently busy with other matters.
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Devil Vein said:


I like your bandos theory but theres an issue. Wed have to figuratively dig up Bandos again for this to be the case and the mods have stated Bandos' story is over. They felt this way going into bird and the beast. They knew scapers would side with armadyl and bandos would die. Since then his content has come mostly to an end. I think its more likely that xau is like Cthulhu and needs to rest periodically. As he was heading to slumber he destro


IIRC, Jagex have since stated that they'll continue to explore Bandos and the Bandosians in future content. Which is fine with me, his cameo in Dishonour among Thieves was the best part of the quest.
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On the one hand, I'm hyped for new Xau-Tak content.

On the other hand, I don't want another boss, and I do not trust The Watch with anything lore related.
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17-Sep-2016 16:35:47

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One of the Ambassador's concepts actually shows it in an area that matches up with the description of the Underwater City we got in The Light Within. It's set underwater and is full of black obsidian structures.

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17-Sep-2016 19:02:19

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The Ambassador was concepted as a potential boss alongside an eastern Island guardian and another sea monster, so that gives us an idea as to where it will be found.

Also, its name is eerily similar to the Harbinger... is the Harbinger a harbinger for the arrival of the Ambassador?
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N7spongy said:
While we're all biding our time till our eventual nonexistence, check out Legend Arts on Twitter. I requested him to do fanart of Xau-Tak and he did it and it's awesome!


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Very nice artwork.
I mean it's not remotely accurate, but it is very nice. :P


It's far too humanoid, even if it does have a couple of tentacles. It's more of an anthropomorphic sea creature than an actual sea creature. Xau-Tak is anything but human, which is probably why it has a vaguely humanoid Ambassador.

I picture Xau-Tak looking like a Karamthulhu (or squid/octopus) on steroids. A huge sea monster with thousands of squirming tentacles. Perfect for swimming through oceans of writhing undead corpses.

Ancient Drew said:
Is it possible that the penguins are affiliated with Xau-Tak? And before you ask, no I am not messing.


If Mother Mallum and the Sea Slugs are connected to Xau-Tak, then by extension Captain Marlin would be too, so yes, it's possible.

Personally, I like the idea of the pillar that killed Mother Mallum being an artefact of Xau-Tak.
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Mod Raven has said that they are very reluctant to do any more time travel plots (with us doing the time travel, at least) as recently as The Light Within, since it cheapens storylines if we're just able to go back and change things.

So that being said, I think we can rule out us time travelling again in connection to Xau-Tak. Considering how many other unremarkable characters are capable of it to some degree, it's pretty likely that Xau-Tak was simply able to see the future, or it just took note of us when we were messing around in the First Age.
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I don't think they actually said anything about time travel. It could just be that we'll "be there" in a similar fashion to how we are at the Battle of Barendir in Birthright of the Dwarves. Or maybe we'll be playing as Zamorak or Viggora or someone. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Good to see that he didn't betray my already low expectations.

Anyway, we'll probably be seeing Xau-Tak stuff with the Nomad's Elegy stuff on Monday. For some reason I get the feeling that Mod Raven will be cruel and hide the only Xau-Tak reference in Zanik's time-locked dialogue, so we won't be able to see it for a year.

Or even worse, maybe it'll be like in the original quest, and the Xau-Tak reference will trigger completely randomly in a cutscene you're only supposed to see once.
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Kemtros said:
Wasn't it suggested that the last fragment of Bandos was trying to claw free?


Yeah, but that wouldn't be giving her nightmares of something with clawed hands trying to burst out of her. And we know that Xau-Tak was hanging around the Bandosian afterlife for some reason.

Maybe Xau-Tak was watching Zanik, curious about how she has come back from death so many times.
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Well, it's certainly a good thing that there's no entity like THAT, especially not one that would love to have greater power over (un)death.



Especially not one that the quest shows is already in the underworld.

You dun fucked up, Nomad.
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27-Sep-2016 13:23:25 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2016 13:23:44 by Wahisietel

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Xau-Tak is pretty much confirmed to have no relation to the Elder Gods.

Anyway, Zombies are seen on the Harbinger in the latest BTS/Trailer, so it's highly likely to be one of Rabid Jack's ships. So expect some nice juicy lore on Monday.
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So Arc 2 is completely devoid of Xau-Tak content (so far, anyway), although it was never explained how Cora gained her powers over the undead, so very well could be with the use of Xau-Tak related stuff.

I think it may be possible that we'll get a Xau-Tak reference or two from the castaways, but not holding my breath.
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Ancient Drew said:
Could Xau-Tak have killed the moai heads on the islands, or have been responsible for that entity around Goshima?


The entity on Goshima is
The Khan of Goshima, risen from the dead and turned into a Jiangshi by her adoptive daughter, Captain Cora.

So not directly Xau-Tak related, but we don't know the source of Cora's abilities.
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Hguoh said:
Keep in mind, the Arc is rather isolated from godly influence due to an anti-god barrier over all of Wushanko originating from Kami-shima. Unless Xau has non-dead things working under him (think: cult) neither his influence nor anything sustained by his magic (anything Xau personally raised from the dead) should be able to even enter the Wushanko Isles.

The Memory is proof that low-tier divine beings are able to enter Wushanko with no issues, and we know from the Horn that godly artefacts are also allowed in.

Anyway, I was mainly thinking that Cora could have found an artefact or something at the nearby Cursed Archipelago to the north-west. From what we've seen, her necromantic skill seemingly rivals that of the Mahjarrat, which is pretty impressive, and probably not something a human would be capable of without divine assistance.

Higgs mentioning moaning after the miniquest is due to her dialogue being buggy - what should be her post-miniquest dialogue is currently displayed during it, and vice-versa.
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Hguoh said:
Wahisietel said:
Hguoh said:
Keep in mind, the Arc is rather isolated from godly influence due to an anti-god barrier over all of Wushanko originating from Kami-shima. Unless Xau has non-dead things working under him (think: cult) neither his influence nor anything sustained by his magic (anything Xau personally raised from the dead) should be able to even enter the Wushanko Isles.

The Memory is proof that low-tier divine beings are able to enter Wushanko with no issues, and we know from the Horn that godly artefacts are also allowed in.

Anyway, I was mainly thinking that Cora could have found an artefact or something at the nearby Cursed Archipelago to the north-west. From what we've seen, her necromantic skill seemingly rivals that of the Mahjarrat, which is pretty impressive, and probably not something a human would be capable of without divine assistance.

Higgs mentioning moaning after the miniquest is due to her dialogue being buggy - what should be her post-miniquest dialogue is currently displayed during it, and vice-versa.


Eh, the Memory is also identified as a Kami by sirens. This would indicate, based on our current understanding of the term, that the Memory is more a construct of anima, like Wushanko's monsters and the ba/orokami than she is anything divine. Granted, this opens up the possibility of things empowered or sustained by some small amount of Xau's power being active in the area, but it does kind of inhibit Xau's typical possess people to say creepy stuff schtick.


That's because Anima and GodJuice are pretty much the same thing, especially in the case of Guthix, who bolstered his own power with Anima. And the Skeletal Horror is also implied to have "tapped into the world's lifeforce", so it's likely that Xau-Tak could do something similar.
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Well, when Jagex teased a Zombie pirate ship as the villain of Batch 2, Xau-Tak speculation was inevitable. And in the absence of any in-game stuff, Xau-Tak is an easy way to explain how Captain Cora has necromantic ability rivalling Zemouregal and Enakhra :P. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Yeah, the fact that Cora is described as being a "young girl" when she was taken into slavery by The Skulls also makes things rather confusing, since she was also married to Gully at the time :|. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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When a crab crawls across the silt-strewn flagstones of Atyl-Atys, do you think the antediluvian Horrors of that city care what it thinks about the architecture?

Is that... is that the name of the Underwater City? Do we finally have a better name for it than "Underwater City"? Quick, let's study the etymology of this new name.

The hyphen in the name is obviously due to the one in Xau-Tak's own name.

It looks vaguely like Atlantis, but doesn't seem to sound like it (at least, from the limited attempts I have made at pronouncing it). It could maybe be derived from a name in the Cthulhu mythos, even if it's not the obvious one (R'lyeh).

ZAmorakZaros said:

Have we ever seen Enakhra using necromancy? The mahjarrats we definetely know are necromancers are Zemouregal, Lucien and Sliske(Maybe). Maybe Bilrach too. Daemonheim does have a lot of undead.


We see Enakhra summon skeletons in Enakhra's Lament, in addition to turning Akthanakos into one. Khazard is a necromancer too, as we can see from Bouncer, the Shadow Realm scouts, and the Khazard warlord.
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Well, it's either the Underwater City, or the lost city of Cave horrors mentioned in Death at Sea. Of course, it's very possible that these are one and the same anyway. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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So, apparently, Zanik was talking about Xau-Tak creepy stuff last month, but we missed it. Apparently, she talks about the Soul Obelisk singing to her when you ask her about the Soul Obelisk when you're at the Signature Heroes stage in Zanik's adventures. Or maybe it only happened in November, I dunno. Someone who missed one of the adventures should check.

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Player: What can you tell me about the Soul Obelisk?
Zanik: It seems to be emitting a strange noise. But only at night...when I'm alone.
Player: What sort of noise?
Zanik: I'm not sure... It's like...like singing. But just on the edge of hearing. It's strangely beautiful.


So, the Soul Obelisk was singing to Zanik at night. The "thing" that Gustaf brought aboard The Glory of Zaros did exactly the same thing.

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He told me it had 'sung' to the crew at night, and that the four men had 'become absent' and had to be killed.


So this has some disturbing implications. Either Xau-Tak has somehow managed to take control of the Soul Obelisk, or it had a hand in creating it in the first place. We know Nomad built it, but it's certainly possible he used some kind of Xau-Tak related object in the process. Or maybe Xau-Tak latched onto Zanik at some point, and it's just influencing her to hallucinate.

Brassica Prime has captured the Soul Obelisk and is using it to turn souls into cabbages.
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Just Sliske/Oreb/Brassica Prime messing around then, fair enough.

Or maybe the Soul Obelisk just wants to claim Zanik's soul because she dead, I dunno.
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There is a Xau-Tak reference in Sliske's Endgame, but it's a small one and doesn't really tell us anything.

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Sliske: The Queen of Ashes just burns and burns and burns. Xau-Tak writhes, twists, and beckons but never DOES anything!
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21-Dec-2016 13:52:44

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Xau-Tak does not need Mod WIlson to survive. It long ago surpassed such limitations, just ask our good friend the Skeletal Horror.

In related news, we're getting a Xau-Tak Treasure Hunter promotion later this month, in a similar fashion to the Queen of Ashes one last year.
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Ancient Drew said:
Wahisietel said:
Xau-Tak does not need Mod WIlson to survive. It long ago surpassed such limitations, just ask our good friend the Skeletal Horror.

In related news, we're getting a Xau-Tak Treasure Hunter promotion later this month, in a similar fashion to the Queen of Ashes one last year.
Yeah, but now there's the chance Xau-Tak will end up being completely different to what Mod Wilson intended it to be. I only hope he left notes on it for them to spool over.


My point was that Fur and Seek happened without Wilson's involvement. Meaning the quest was made by Mod Maylea using his notes.

He's definitely left notes for Xau-Tak if he left notes for the Rag and Bone Man.
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Well, obviously Deathbeard was resurrected by Xau-Tak's power, and what he says about the seas becoming "angrier" recently is interesting. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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The problem with the Xau-Tak doesn't exist/is a disease/whatever theory is that SOMETHING is hanging around the Eastern Seas resurrecting the dead and driving people mad. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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So I asked on the Q&A why Zaros and Seren couldn't together, or separately, take issue if Xau-Tak were to ever do something unsavory and just wipe it out.

Apparently they're not powerful enough to do so. Concerning.

Xau-Tak was also referenced as a "They" implying two.

Xau and Tak?


"They" was probably used because Xau-Tak is genderless. I prefer "it" since it makes Xau-Tak seem more alien and incomprehensible.

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Wahisietel said:
The problem with the Xau-Tak doesn't exist/is a disease/whatever theory is that SOMETHING is hanging around the Eastern Seas resurrecting the dead and driving people mad.

And that could really be something other than Xau


Something that does what Xau-Tak does and yet isn't Xau-Tak? What would be the point of that?
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If any of you saw the new Nex guide video that was put on the Runescape channel, you see at the end the teaser they put on twitter a wile ago, the darkness stirs one. I thought it was supposed to be a hint at possible Xau-Tak content coming, but is it confirmed this is what the teaser was talking about?


It's confirmed it was about Nex, yeah.
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Cold spot is more likely to be related to Oreb than it is Xau-Tak. Xau-Tak doesn't seem to be too interested in creating ghosts, it's more interested in the physical bodies.

Xau-Tak isn't just a carbon copy of Cthulhu, I imagine it takes inspiration from much of Lovecraft & Co's works. I wouldn't be surprised if some Xau-Tak related stuff does take some elements from Reanimator. I mean, we already have Mi-Gor and co in The Great Brain Robbery...
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So, just throwing this out there, what if Xau-Tak completely ignored many of the established rules of the RuneScape universe? What if Xau-Tak simply did not make sense in the eyes of "science", and was capable of many seemingly impossible feats?

I'm talking about "creation of life" level stuff here. Stuff that's firmly established as impossible and fundamentally wrong, but Xau-Tak is inexplicably capable of it anyway.
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20-Feb-2017 17:22:42

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Seems odd to have had a Xau-Tak mention in Endgame if the god's been thrown out the Jagex window entirely.


There was also a Xau-Tak MTX event recently. So no, Xau-Tak hasn't been scrapped.
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25-Feb-2017 13:56:16

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It was heavily implied.
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I did indeed perish along with the rest of me crew. Somethin' clung to me soul, though. Somethin' dark that let me keep on goin'. I can feel th' same curse has be laid upon them, as well.
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The sea... she hasn'a been herself of late - and no one know's 'er like me. Angry, she's been gettin', with more 'n more of what be stayin' deep risin' to th' top.
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So one issue with the idea of whatever Guthix found being Xau-Tak is that Guthix describes it as feeding on the living - Xau-Tak does the exact opposite. It feeds the dead to make them living. Or would Guthix consider the undead to be "living"?

Also, by host, my interpretation is that Guthix seems to be referring to the planet itself (Renmark), not a creature. While Xau-Tak may operate via proxies (which may possibly include every entity it has ever "infected";) it seems to still have some "main" physical form of its own. So to have corrupted a planet so thoroughly that Guthix ended up inadvertently destroying it, wouldn't Xau-Tak/whatever this creature is have had to become one with Renmark's Anima Mundi?

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Xau-Tak Xau-Tak Xau-Tak Xau-Tak... it's fun
I'm 95% it's talking about Xau-Tak here. ... I think it's refreshing


The theory that Xau-Tak is from the Void is looking good. Did we ever find out who kept opening the Pests' portals after Greyzag was stopped?


Worth pointing out that the Void pests do not originate from the void, they merely pass through it to get to our world. The Void is just... nothingness. Grayzag's interference permanently weakened the connection to the void on the Pest Islands, so the pests are still able to tear their way through to some extent.
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Handkerchief said:
I definitely hope the elder gods aren't at all involved with Xau-Tak. The 'three pillars' of the 6th Age have been a total hodgepodge so far, all mixed up together (supposedly becoming more distinct going forward). It would be a welcome relief to have some heady storytelling that doesn't feature elder gods or dragonkin (or any other gods, honestly).


As for Xau-Tak sitting cozy in the core of the seasonal planet, it's not really a stretch. Wilson was pretty clear we shouldn't try to think of it as an entity, whether singular or plural. And, at the same time, we should probably listen to Guthix, cause what do we actually *know* about it?


(also - finally got mqc today! wooo!!!!)


I think the Elder Gods may be related to Xau-Tak somewhat... In the sense that they, along with Guthix and Seren, may be part of the reason why it hasn't done to Gielinor what it did to Renmark.

Is it a coincidence that Xau-Tak started influencing itself more right after Guthix died?

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When did Guthix ever address Xau Tak, memories or while alive? Where can I reference this dialogue? So he knows or knew of Xau Take


The dialogue that many think is about Xau-Tak is added to the "Elder Sword" memory in Memorial to Guthix after unknown conditions are met. I think it may be as simple as prestiging once.
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AesirWarrior said:

I believe this Hermit crab dialogue has already been quoted in this thread, but it gains new meaning after the Renmark revelation:


Hermit crab: Clatterclatter[sic] click clatter clack click clatter clatter click... (You know, this place is too dry, but at least I don't have to worry about giant stone hands.)
Player: Giant stone what?
Hermit crab: Clickclack! Clatter clack clack clatter click clack clack. (I can't tell you! Last time I tried I was locked in an aquarium by a unicorn-man.)

So it seems like the Centaurs are aware that Xau-Tak corrupted their world, and it looks like something they want to forget.


IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
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I can only hope that since the person behind Xau-Tak is a long time employee, it will have a lot of care and consistency as opposed to the quest lines Jagex played hot potato with.


Well I may have some bad news for you...
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Where can I find this dialogue regarding Guthix's encounter with Xau Tak outside of the game? I havent gotten to that memory yet.


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Calamity! I underestimated the ability of the Blade. I have sundered a planet. It was a world of divine beauty and fabulous magic, a realm of wild nature where four ruling courts of the seasons were in constant conflict, yet maintained a tumultuous balance of power. Yet, at the core of this world of light, I witnessed a great darkness. A corrupt, ravenous presence; a bloated parasite that fed voraciously on the living, whose appetite could never be satisfied. Arrogantly, I sought to cut that devouring corruption from its host. Instead, I destroyed the planet, shattering its fragments across the cosmos. Worst of all, I fear my actions may have released corruption from its prison. Its tendrils entwine the threads of mortality. It has taken root in pathways I have opened. There are many places I now dare not travel, for fear that corruption may probe deeper into the cosmos, and find a new host. I have sought out the elements of the sundered world. Some of them endure. A land of perpetual light and one of eternal winter, and a periphery where neither can endure the other. But there are large fragments of Renmark I have been unable to locate. I can only hope that some of its inhabitants may have survived my hubris.
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Devil Vein said:
Hopefully Mod Raven chimes in to this question: With all the build up in the Sliske's endgame series (Nomads elegy, Kindred Spirts, Children of Mah, and endgame), why hasn't there been any new Xau content released lately? We are peppered with all kinds of Xau references in the years big Arc and then...nothing.


Xau did seem to get some fairly extensive lore with Memorial to Guthix (plus Deathbeard's Demise gave a bit too). The lack of references since then is likely down to the lack of meaningful content in general.
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AFAIK Imcandoria's fall was written by Mod Raven. I'm unsure what to think of it due to not being able to visualise the locations in it. It FEELS like it's intended to reference locations on the map that we know of, but I don't know what.

The authors of the book are supposedly from the Isle of Garmr, which has some kind of dungeon with forges and giants.

Imcandoria itself was supposedly surrounded by Auspah tribes, and judging by its name, was home to Imcando dwarves. Imcandoria was supposedly turned into a frozen wasteland after the encounter with whatever that creature was.

We have two snowy locations connected to the Imcando (Asgarnian Ice Dungeon & Ice Mountain), but neither matches up with what's in the book.
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If Imcandoria was near Auspah tribes, that would place it near the Fremennik in Rellekka. Given the surrounding areas, this would place Imcandoria right around where the entrance to Keldagrim is today (makes sense, some dwarves fled far and wide, while others fled downward and established Keldagrim). Knowing what we do, it's likely that the blanketing of snow in the area around Imcandoria was a result of the Frostenhorn magnifying the cold environment around Ghorrock after Zarosians fleeing the God Wars brought the item to the fortress.


We know that Auspah were also in the desert, though. And the area around Keldagrim has always been blanketed by snow.
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The problem is, Xau-Tak has no connection to the cold. There IS a deity with a connection to both the cold and the Imcando dwarves, but she was asleep at the time. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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It's not impossible that Xau-Tak is related to the Sea Troll Queen. Because it's clearly a sea monster and not a troll. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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So, some notes from the new "deities" introduce in today's update.

Tezcasathla is quite obviously Xau-Tak. From it whispering our name to the author of the Rotting journal, to Herbert Dunwich knowing that Tezcasathla is not its true name, and wondering if he really thinks he can save us.

The three lesser deities appear to be connected to the horror priestesses that Wilbur Howley saw in Beneath the Waves. Whether they are one and the same, or one is based on the other, is unknown.

Uvhastur is a mother deity said to have a mass of tentacles in the place of legs, no arms, and a great many heads growing out of a central column. The corresponding priest in Beneath the Waves does not possess the heads, but does possess the tentacles. The idol of many heads from the Rocking Out quest appears to depict her.


Yogsathla is associated with the moon. A carving of it is described as being decorated with silvery filigree, and possessing a huge monstrous eye in the centre, reminiscent of a rotting fish. The horrors are said to fear it, rather than worship it. In Beneath the Waves, its priest is described as being a horror's corpse stretched to somewhat resemble a crab or spider, with a huge silvery monstrous eye in the center. The eye is said to see into one's head and heart, judging.

Nyarlahydra is the skeletal horror. Unlike the others, it did not have a carving, but rather an arrangement of carefully cleaned horror bones, on the skull of which sat a black mask hewn from stone. Presumably the carving was an imitation of the real Skeletal Horror, the remains of which were on Mos Le'Harmless and not the Cursed Archipelago.

Strangely, it's corresponding priestess in Beneath the Waves bears little resemblance to it, being described as having her face replaced with a gaping maw full of misshapen teeth, with its arms withered away into useless, limp tendrils. Its back apparently had black stone arms emerging from it.
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And for the Lovecraft connections...

Uvhastur is named after Hastur.

Yogsathla is obviously named after Yog-Sothoth.

Nyarlahydra is named after Hydra and Nyarlathotep.

Wilbur Howley is named after Wilbur Whateley. And maybe there's some Mod Rowley in there too.

Herbert Dunwich is presumably named after Herbert West, and the Dunwich Horror.

The Horror/Primate world of Jermyn is named after the short story "Facts concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family" and its titular character.

The apparent true name of the Horror species - Mwanu - is named after a tribal chief in the aforementioned story.
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Chronological order of the lorebooks seems to be the following:

Decaying journal > Festering journal > Rotten journal > Death at Sea > Pestilent journal > Blasphemous journal > Old diary

One thing to note is that these new lorebooks make no reference to the Underwater City/Atyl-Atys (and do not take place when it would presumably still be around on the surface), so we still know pretty much nothing about it, despite it presumably being the sunken horror city.
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So, something interesting that helps sort out the timeline of the horror stuff.

The Pestilent journal (aka The Strange Tribes) is said to have been written by Herbert Dunwich. "The weeping", a book Mod Raven contributed to OSRS's Myths Guild, is also written by Herbert Dunwich. The weeping takes place in the Third Age, and involves an encounter with a strange weeping creature in a cave with previous signs of Zarosian occupation on the northern coast of Forinthry. The creature is described as being hulking, with spindly arms and a flash of razor sharp talons, and sounding like a weeping woman. To me, it sounds like some kind of ripper demon that has not fully taken control of its host, but we cannot rule out that is related to Xau.

Regardless, due to the Pestilent journal sharing its author with The Weeping, we can determine that it most likely takes place in the Third Age. From this, we can determine a likely timeline of events!

Decaying journal - Second Age or earlier
Festering journal - Second Age or earlier
Rotten journal - Second age
Death at Sea - Late second age, shortly before the fall of Zaros
Pestilent journal (The Strange Tribes) - Third Age
Blasphemous journal (Beneath the Waves) - ???
Old diary (Expedition Journal - 32) - Fifth Age, ~year 159
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It looked like Mah's arm because Jagex don't care enough about quests to make new models for them.

Same reason Captain Donnie's ship The Inebriated is Sarim's Revenge, why the pirates invade with a Dwarf Multicannon, and why all Barrelchests are identical, making their chatheads look stupid and the whole reason we meet the zombie head make no sense.
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Didn't even include the Rum Deal kitten cutscene (despite it using current cat graphics unlike The Great Brain Robbery one), 0/10. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

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Half Centaur said:
I think Xau-Tak is the unnamed 6th elder god.

The thing that bothers me about the underwater temple, is it seems in the first mural, a dragonkin used the ritual to create the drain portal- before Xau-tak attacked/corrupted his company.

The dragonkin have shown nothing but disdain for other gods though, so why would they call on any god, even a tier 2, to fix their curse when it was put in place by the elder gods and no other god would be able to help them?

My bet is that this dragonkin saw this 6th elder god as in opposition to the others, and because of this, hoped it would help them.

The drain portal got closed by the dragonkin in the ensuing conflict, and likely sunk as well, to keep anyone foolish enough from trying to mess with Xau-tak again. Then in time Rabid Jack discovered hints to its existence in some cursed treasure, perhaps left by some dragonkin survivors. Or maybe his treasure was something that would zombify him, and he happened to float into the wreckage, where Xau-Tak reached out to him, sensing his hatred, and used him to further his plans.

The drain portal worked in the 5th age since it predated and superseded the edicts, though it still couldn't let Xau-tak entirely through.


I do not know how many times it has to be said that XAU-TAK WAS EXPLICITLY STATED TO NOT BE AN ELDER GOD.

Also, Xau-Tak was active since at least the Second Age. Its hands are alluded to in Death at Sea.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

21-Mar-2018 00:49:38

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Half Centaur said:
Wahisietel said:


I do not know how many times it has to be said that XAU-TAK WAS EXPLICITLY STATED TO NOT BE AN ELDER GOD.


Where?

Sorry I've missed it being stated before, but there has to be a reason the dragonkin would decide to get involved with it. Unless that was a dragonkin ascending there. Which I doubt.


I do not remember ;_;.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

21-Mar-2018 01:05:06

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Xau-Tak is the sixth elder god and implanted a false memory in my brain of a Jmod (either Wilson or Raven) saying that Xau-Tak is not an elder god. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

21-Mar-2018 01:21:32

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I do not believe that is the quote I was referring to. It was more explicit, and probably on a thread that was eaten by chewy.

I hope to update the thread at some point, but I am a lazy person.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

21-Mar-2018 18:17:15 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2018 18:17:50 by Wahisietel

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I like to think that the laws of this universe do not necessarily apply to Xau-Tak. Since the Elder Gods more or less ARE the laws of the universe, for that reason I am inclined to think Xau-Tak is not one of them. At least, not one of OUR elder gods. It is for that reason that it cannot be classified by the tier system, and why it is capable of breaking the fourth wall.

Trying to comprehend Xau-Tak's goals are an exercise in futility.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

22-Mar-2018 19:37:23 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2018 19:40:13 by Wahisietel

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So one thing of note - in all the content it has been referenced in, Xau-Tak itself has never actually been described as being on Gielinor, or even on Jermyn.

Only its arms reaching out of things.

So that made me think... what if Xau-Tak wasn't kept out by the edicts, or trapped in the Underwater City? What if it is incapable of leaving its own dimension, and thus is forced to influence this one via its hands and proxies, such as Rabid Jack?
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

23-Mar-2018 13:40:56

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I have a bad feeling that Ulthven Kreath is intended to set up Xau-Tak at Floor 61, because they haven't changed and retconned that storyline enough yet. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

27-Mar-2018 21:23:44

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