Forums

Xau-Tak: God of the Horrors

Quick find code: 341-342-37-65701262

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Wahisietel said:
Broken Home's storyline was done by Mod Jack, and IIIRC Seneci**** was the cause of madness. Of course, Chthonian demons are also partially based on Lovecraft, so a connection is possible.
I doubt a connection between the 2 anyways. Personally, I believe the Underwater City is the one in our nightmare in the Light Within.

Side note: Damn, everything goes down in Silvarea, 3 epic Salve battles, fire beacon, haunted mansion, scarred monk, and an Odd Old Man with a bone monster on his back. It's like a magnet for ghostly magic danger stuff.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

16-Apr-2016 09:15:14

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Raleirosen said:
Sepulchre said:
Okay I'm not paying attention to anything. Somebody kindly explain to me what the heck Idle Adventures is?

You could google it.
Dont ask of such a feat to be done from a person.

Anyways Xau-Yak was definitely not on Gielinor in the fifth age, as he starts to become more influencing in the Sixth Age. So Guthix knew about him, and that means he is likely a god if he was banished.

Now Xau-Tak on the other hand...
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

04-Jun-2016 18:31:16

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Sepulchre said:
Wahisietel said:
The bearded man is pretty much confirmed to be the Smuggler at this point. And I seriously doubt Xau-Tak has any connection to Daemonheim. I like the idea of something besides Zamorak being at the bottom of Daemonheim, explaining why Bilrach went mad... but Dishonour among Thieves pretty much killed any chance of that happening.
I feel like DaT is going to be.. ignored, for the most part. I've been hearing a lot of people say that Nomad's Elegy ignored a lot of the lore it came with.
Have you ever considered that maybe Xau-Tak isn't so much a living being as it is an.. idea?
How did Nomads elegy ignore the lore (I'm at the boss fight currently)? Is it because it didnt mention the previous quest?

Also I don't think Xau-Tak is necessarily a god, but an "idea" would just feel off. I personally feel that Xau-Tak is some sort of primordial being/eldritch abomination, like the prehistoric abyssal.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

21-Jun-2016 21:38:00

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Ancient Drew said:
Lethalintent said:
I want Xau-Tak to be a banana, I want to eat it, but I want him to taste different.

Like, Brassica compared to the normal cabbages different.

Something beyond anything we've been used too, something perhaps entirely different than anything we could've cooked up ourselves.
Which got me thinking he could be a banana god. The kind which splits itself into millions of bananas, each of which are weaker than the average mortal, and they affect their hosts and preach its 'philosophy' through mind control i.e. the slugs, which also feature in the Braindeath 'rum'.

In Death at Sea, Sliske hears about how the treasure the Glory of Zaros pulled up had sung to the crew about bananas, and crawled out to sea. And Sliske dedicated quite a while of his time into studying Xau-Tak. If anything, a banana god is hardly going to be a one hit wonder. Some people speculate that it might be Sliske's signature dish, although even if Sliske 'served' anyone food it was for his own monetary gain and is currently taking advantage of his customers now.
Sliske definitely does not have a loyal relationship with his master, look at his face when he says "I live to serve". Also I don't think Xau-Tak will have any further involvement with the Sliske storyline after this, likely just some more foreshadowing probably, but that's it.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

26-Jun-2016 03:31:30 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2016 20:07:04 by N7spongy

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Trib said:
Right, I was trying to look for Xau-Tak references and the dialogue with Kepple post-Let Them Eat Pie is quite interesting, though it could just as easily be a silly joke (most likely is). The only reason I bring it up is because of the wording of some of his phrases. Here's a transcript:

Kepple: I saw it. I saw all of it...
Player: Saw what?
Kepple: You don't know! You'll never know what I saw!
Kepple: The colours... all the colours... and sometimes NONE of the colors...
Kepple: The darkness came to me then... with the stench. It protected my mind.
Kepple: But the darkness is still there. The smell...the smell of it will never, ever fade...
Player: Wait... Isn't this a bit over the top from seeing Rolo get a little ill?
Kepple: A little ill? A little ill?
Kepple: The god themselves wept tears of blood at the things he brought to light. Things that should never have been!
Player:I... see.
Player: Well, I'll leave you to your mad babbling now. Have fun!
Kepple: No! Don't leave me! It will come back for me!
Player: Bye! Going away now! Have fun!

A bit of an over-reaction to the incident with Rolo throwing up, no? Notice how Kepple says that the darkness came to him to protect his mind with the stench. He didn't say it was the stench. And he says the darkness is still there, then later frantically begs you not to leave him as it will "come back for [him]!". I should note too that the Chef on the bottom floor is a bit of a loose cannon, but I hardly thing it is Xau-Tak's brand of crazy :P

Edit: Oh yea, I went here because it was one of the quests listed as being developed by Mod Wilson on the unofficial RS W*ki
Im starting to wonder if the concept of Xau-Tak was really planned as far back as 2005...
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

01-Jul-2016 04:55:26

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
What if Sliske's master sealed Xau-Tak? No evidence at all.

Anyways this makes sense if he was imprisoned, it lines up with Guthix's description of the Underwater City trying to regain contact with the rest of the world. I assume this tsunami could be the reason for the sinking of it. What if the city was inhabited by the Horrors? I believe it was implied that they were the remains of a more intelligent civilization but I could be wrong.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

10-Jul-2016 05:01:22

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
That post by Wilson (which was comprehensible for once) makes me think back to the theory of whether Xau-Tak was a complete entity or not. I think we're going to have to widen our way of thinking about reality if we can even get a small grasp on what IT is. For example, he it could be some sort of 4 dimensional creature that drives people insane due to how implausible it may look to them.

What if whatever Xau-Tak is, is some sort of entity that doesn't exist in mortal terms, something that can't be comprehended or categorized that easily? Is "tendrils" just another term for something else that isn't actually "tendrils" but is the easiest way to describe it?

I can't fully translate what I'm thinking into words that easily O_o, the above text is just some rambling, but I wonder if maybe I'm thinking too much about this. Then again Wilson is either implying that Xau-Tak's powers are beyond that of an eldritch abomination, or much much below it. Though upon closer reading I'm wondering if maybe Xau-Tak isn't as PHYSICALLY powerful as we thought, maybe more powerful on the mind...

Though in the end it's funny that something this mind-warpingly horrifying is linked to a quest series about zombie pirates drinking rum :P, how far back was Xau-Tak even an idea?
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

04-Aug-2016 21:48:22 - Last edited on 04-Aug-2016 21:49:44 by N7spongy

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Maiden China said:
Sepulchre said:
I think you're just not getting it. Zaros is an infinitely interesting character in reality. :P
I think you've been at Azzanadra's Kool-Aid again :P
Well, Zaros has been wandering the universe for countless eons, who knows what he's seen, learned, forgotten, experienced. There is so much he hasn't told us.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

19-Aug-2016 05:20:41

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Maiden China said:
Lego Miester said:
corpse ocean, corpse ocean...

*Facepalm*

They meant an ocean full of zombies.

I can't believe I didn't notice that earlier.
or they meant that the oceans on that planet were alive and now they're... less so

xau-tak, murderer of oceans.
that monster.

when I read that, I just imagined 'lots of dead bodies, so many that if the dead bodies were water, it'd look like an oceaoceans at all

weird... my mind glitched a bit, sorry, oh no, wait, no... I...
I will fix that

when I read that, I just imagined 'lots of dead bodies, so many that if the dead bodies were water, it'd look like an ocean'... and didnt have anything to do with actual oceans at all

gixed
fixed... ugh
you know you do have a backspace key, yes?
Multiple Personality Disorder?
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

24-Aug-2016 08:03:38

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Lethalintent said:
Who honestly thinks Xau-Tak can live up to its hype?

This incomprehensible being feels almost more threatening than the Elder gods, is it going to be some over rumored dud of a character? That's my fear. All the hints here and there throughout the years have been some excellent hidden foreshadowing, but I have my doubts.
Mod Wilson has read most of this thread, he obviously knows how much we've been hyping it up.

Sepulchre said:
Lethalintent said:
Who honestly thinks Xau-Tak can live up to its hype?

This incomprehensible being feels almost more threatening than the Elder gods, is it going to be some over rumored dud of a character? That's my fear. All the hints here and there throughout the years have been some excellent hidden foreshadowing, but I have my doubts.
Maybe Xau-Tak is the Elderer Elder God? The one who created the Elders in the first place?
That'd be stupid for so many different reasons, but you're probably joking.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

03-Sep-2016 22:18:22 - Last edited on 03-Sep-2016 22:21:00 by N7spongy

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Hguoh said:
Wahisietel said:
One of the Ambassador's concepts actually shows it in an area that matches up with the description of the Underwater City we got in The Light Within. It's set underwater and is full of black obsidian structures.



Black obsidian structures that just so happen to look like hands reaching up from the depths. Like one of the dreams you could have if you fell asleep while listening to Coeden in TLW.
Like the Grotesque, or tendrils.

Anyways I know this won't happen but it would be awesome if this came in a Pirate expansion along with a new quest, the Underwater City, and this boss.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

17-Sep-2016 22:59:37

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Wahisietel said:
The Ambassador was concepted as a potential boss alongside an eastern Island guardian and another sea monster, so that gives us an idea as to where it will be found.

Also, its name is eerily similar to the Harbinger... is the Harbinger a harbinger for the arrival of the Ambassador?
Where did you get that info from?

Anyways my theory is that the Harbinger is one of the ships belonging to Rabid Jack, and he uses this ship to trade slaves to turn into zombie minions. If this is true I find it unlikely we would get to meet Rabid Jack himself (because the requirements would be WAYYYY too high for a pirate continuation) but we are likely to get more lore on the Pirate series as a whole and Xau-Tak himself.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

21-Sep-2016 21:54:34

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
So we got a truckload of new hints about Xau-Tak from the Lore Corner that lead me to develop a new theory.

You see when someone asked what Xau-Tak's God Tier was, the answer was the square root of -1, which is i, an imaginary number.

There are two possible reasons to this:
1. Xau-Tak's power can't be defined with just numbers and a normal scale, or it's a very unusual being that exists in multiple levels of reality at once.
2. Xau-Tak isn't real, or at least not an actual GOD or entity, but rather possibly a disease, codename for something stranger, or a parasite(recurring theory around here).

Both are plausible but I want to add some evidence to the first theory, because the second is more of a stretch. You see another hint given was that someone asked if Zaros and Seren were aware of Xau-Tak, and the answer is that even with their combined power they may not be able to stop it. Now assuming that Xau-Tak isn't the Sixth Elder(who's probably Vos, but that's a different discussion), it has to be something powerful enough to withstand the two strongest "younger" gods.

If Xau-Tak existed in multiple realities at once, or states of matter/being for example, he couldn't be simply physically destroyed with just one big zap of god lightning. His power could be immeasurable, but not because he's more powerful, but because it's on an entirely different scale that isn't straightforward like regular numbers are.

Then again the square root of -1 could just be a joke on how incomprehensible Lovecraftian deities usually are but hey we're theorists we keep digging.

Thoughts?
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

18-Jan-2017 02:09:27 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2017 03:58:37 by N7spongy

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Cthris said:
N7spongy said:

it's a metaphysical being who exists in multiple levels of reality at once.
Thoughts?


I believe that's a contradiction of sorts lol, they are opposites don't you think. Metaphysical things do not exist in reality, that is why they are meta physical. (meaning above physics).

Things that exist in multiple realities exist have to exist in some reality, which means they can't be meta-physical because they are not above physics.
I will admit I did not know what metaphysical meant completely lol :P, forget I said ANYTHING about metaphysical now, let's go with the existing in multiple states of reality.
Raleirosen said:
Spooky theory that is very spooky
I really like this theory and I think it's completely plausible we just need to work in a reason for the zombie pirates and I think it would be complete. The Underwater City could be the destroyed civilization for instance, which once held the cave horrors we see today.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

18-Jan-2017 03:57:17

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
This thread catalogues all references to Xau-Tak in game, and by extension connections to the Cthulhu Mythos correct?

Well I was reading the lorebooks today from Angel of Death and The Promised Gift mentions that Zaros gave Nex four elemental stones of power to turn her into the powerful headache she is now, the four being Smoke, Shadow, Ice, and Blood, the elements of the lower planes.

What's interesting is that Zaros mentions that he obtained the Ice elemental stone from the icy world of Leng, the home-world of the Glacors. Leng in the Cthulhu Mythos is a cold plateau that has different locations each time it's described. At one point it's described to possibly be a lost city in Antarctica, and a place where multiple realities converge.

I have no theory based on this, I am sure it's just a reference to a book the developers had a fondness for.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

30-Jan-2017 21:52:02 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2017 21:52:43 by N7spongy

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Sepulchre said:
In the first reference, it was stated in the Necronomicon that Leng is inhabited by corpse-eating men.
I'm just gonna throw this out there because I like making random connections, but back when the Runescape website had it's own wiki, it had a page on Canifis where it talked about how Ghouls were the remants of an old civilization that ate it's own corpses. It's most likely just a coincidence, but the fact that the concept of a civilization eating their dead exists in game shows that the idea may come into play in the future, maybe with Xau-Tak.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

08-Oct-2017 23:04:56

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I dunno if anyones pointed this out, but I just wanted to add to the theory of Xau-Tak feeding on Renmark by saying that a hermit crab from the Prifddinas Waterfall claimed to have encountered "giant stone hands", and had been locked in an aquarium by a "unicorn-man" for speaking about it. The crab is clearly talking about a centaur which are from Renmark.

Why would a centaur lock up someone for mentioning something relating to Xau-Tak? Did it feeding on their world cause them to develop an immense hatred of it, is Xau-Tak some kind of taboo topic/legend in centaur culture? Maybe I should send a postbag to a centaur and ask about Xau-Tak
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

13-Dec-2017 04:28:07

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Devil Vein said:
So we gonna just ignore the Hooded pirate? Dude is obviously dead. Examination of him tells us he smells bad, has grey fingers, and when he touches us we nearly vomit. He wants a black coin (Probably obsidian) and gives us a message to take to the wise old man that sounds kinda threatening if I must be honest.

Nah it's clearly Oreb/Grayzag/whatever.

My theory is that the reason the Mwanu descended into the state they are today is because Xau-Tak took away their "blood", or I guess sentience, leading them to become such savages. Perhaps Xau-Tak took it away because the horrors would still not enter the water even after the three priestesses came up, so Xau-Tak gave up on them.
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

13-Mar-2018 17:31:08

N7spongy

N7spongy

Posts: 479Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Ahtelhrax said:
I hope you're joking about the Hooded Pirate... Oreb's alive, and in Sophanem... Grayzag is dead (as of the void stares back)
The joke is that the old model for Oreb in Tale of Nomad is the same, and Grayzags model in the flashback in the Void Quests is the same too.

So I found out from Mod Raven that Tezcasathla isn't really Xau-Tak, and is instead just a creation myth, but what does that mean?

Perhaps when Xau-Tak showed up the Mwanu interpreted it to be Tezcasalasagna, but that was wrong, because Tezcasablanca isn't a real person or deity. O_o
Brassica X Marimbo OTP

13-Mar-2018 18:43:50

Quick find code: 341-342-37-65701262Back to Top