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I agree that seers should be differentiated from druids, but making them sadistic is going too far out in the deep end. Guthixians are tree-hugging hippies, you can't change that.

One way to differentiate them is to finally decide what different groups of guthixians believe in the 6th age and make seers/druids have opposing beliefs. I think it would be more interesting if overall druids are godless and seers are anti-godless. Remember how Juna got mad at Zanik for going against her "destiny"? It could be a similar thing here, where the seers believe that the gods (and Elder Gods, if they are aware of that) return is destiny, and that it will bring about a "great and necessary change" (as I would image one of them saying it).

I agree with the notion that you need the anima mundi to see into the future, or at the very least that's what the Seers believe. Also, can we please have a tie in with other characters that can see the future, like the Oracle and Peer the Seer?

Speaking of Peer the Seer, his existence means being a fremennik seer is a "thing". Considering the Fremennik Providence is so close to Seers, it's likely one got the practice from the other. And knowing the fremennik, it's likely that they got the idea first (also prophecy is one of the themes in fremennik content, so it fits in).

In Making History we learn that the first king of Ardougne became Guthixian, so the kingdom either started out Guthixian, or had Guthixian sympathies. So my headcanon would be that Seers Village was a Guthxian colony made by the first king, and the colony tried forming an alliance with the Fremmenik providence to reduce tensions following the Barbarian crusades. In the process, the colony learned some of Barbarian culture and their secrets for seeing into the future, a skill the colony perfected. The alliance probably failed due to the colonies use of magic, and the seers started dying out as the kingdom became more Saradominist.
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22-Mar-2017 03:35:34 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2017 03:52:58 by Eren Lapucet

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As another headcanon, I'd like to propose that there are two schools of thought among the Seers: The idea that the best way to see the future is to be in tranquility, and the opposing idea that the best way is to be in agony. The former is the more common school of thought, and is basically the usual "be one with nature" shpiel. The second is somewhat looked down upon, and may take inspiration from Zamorakianism. It is more powerful than the first method, but its critics would say it's wrong and deranges the mind (Sin the Seer would be an example, and possibly the Oracle as an added headcanon).

Also, I just read the other replies, so yeah :P Pretty clear there has to be some lore involving the Fremennik at this point.

@Elf: Do we have a good idea when Seers Village started out? I would have to modify my headcanon if it started much earlier.
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22-Mar-2017 04:16:12 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2017 04:20:15 by Eren Lapucet

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Cthris said:
Eren Lapucet said:
The second is somewhat looked down upon, and may take inspiration from Zamorakianism. It is more powerful than the first method, but its critics would say it's wrong and deranges the mind (Sin the Seer would be an example, and possibly the Oracle as an added headcanon).


This is where the nihilist macho-sadist edgelord seers can fit in :D

One track mind, huh ;-;. The problem with your idea is that most seers cant' be that way. But a select few "crazies", why not?
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22-Mar-2017 04:37:56 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2017 04:38:55 by Eren Lapucet

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Oh, nearly forgot. The battered book mentions "magi" who closed down the Elemental Workshop since they thought the ore was too powerful. So either "magi" is a generic word for wizards/seers, another name for the Seers Council, or an organization that no longer exists. I'm too Unaligned to have a forum signature.

23-Mar-2017 02:06:57 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2017 02:23:11 by Eren Lapucet

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It's still unclear to me when Seers Village was founded. But supposing it was early in the Fifth Age, then perhaps there can be some lore connecting Seers Village and the Runecrafting Crusades?

One potential idea:

In the year 32, the Fremennik begin their crusades. They ask their seers if they will be victorious, but the seers either give them unclear answers or outright tell them they will lose. Tensions rise and the seers split off (or are banished?) and found Seers Village. After the crusades, the Fremennik realize the seers were correct, and reconcile. This is why there are still Fremennik seers today, but not as many as there used to be.

Really though this is just a modification (or addition) to your second point, Kelpy.
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23-Mar-2017 22:49:40

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Elf of Seren said:
Speaking of prophecy, could you slip something in there to tease an update or two that would come later in the year?

I know this is a lore thread, but what do you think about the idea of frequently updating the seers' dialogue with future update hints? You know, like a replacement for chaos ele hints and/or a supplement to bts.
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29-Mar-2017 02:59:16 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2017 03:02:25 by Eren Lapucet

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