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Melanion said:
I personally hope for a peaceful solution if we help Vanescula.
She seems to want to remove the Vampyre's dependency on blood.


I don't trust her in the slightest. She may want to rid the vampyres of their dependency on blood, but she's definitely not doing it with the intent of benefiting the humans. In Legacy of Blood, she finds a little girl that Gar'rth hid, and drains her of just about all of her blood. Apparently vampyres are driven into a frenzy by their hunger, similar to sharks when they smell blood. However, she wouldn't gloat about it if she actually held any goodwill toward the human race.
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20-May-2014 20:30:08

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Eren Lapucet said:
I stopped reading when you mentioned Legacy of Blood since I'm reading it atm, but it reminded me..

What are the chances that Ana will tie in some of the Morytania lore from the books? I find the Society of Owls and Tenebra etc.. to be very interesting.


I'm reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hoping that she will. She wants to do a werewolf spinoff series from the Myreque series, I think that would be the perfect time to introduce Gar'rth into the game. And there are certain things that the novels leave hanging. I'd really like to know what happened afterwards.

I think that it would be really cool to see some of the werewolves join the Myreque under an uneasy alliance, with distrust on both sides.
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24-May-2014 15:10:36

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Half Centaur said:
Chaos Lupus said:


I think that it would be really cool to see some of the werewolves join the Myreque under an uneasy alliance, with distrust on both sides.


I'm not sure they would ever do that...

It should be really hard for the werewolves soon though, as with the Edicts of Guthix removed, nothing is stopping an extremist Saradominist group from just going in and trying to burn Canifis to the ground.


Canifis was already partially burned down by the Myreque once! Although I have my doubts that anyone other than an organized military group could do much damage unless a large number of wolfbane daggers were acquired.

As for the hypothetical alliance, I think that it would make for an interesting plot. Two enemies having to unite, against the odds, in order to achieve a mutually beneficial goal. Distrust on both sides, the vampyres trying to throw a wedge between them. If Jagex is looking to introduce other characters from the novels, this would be the ideal time to throw Gar'rth into the mix.
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04-Jul-2014 16:45:51

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@ Centaur

The Society of the Owls isn't really a military organization, they're more similar to secret police or an intelligence agency.

As for the werewolves rebelling, that could actually play to the advantage of Vanescula. She'd have more scapegoats to blame, like she did with the Myreque after she killed Ranis. And seeing as fear is easily exploitable, the werewolves could be pretty easily manipulated and used to her benefit.

This is just an assumption, but I'm willing to bet that if haemalchemy became a success, the vampyres would just discard the werewolves or use them to their advantage in other ways. Perhaps turn the population of Canifis into slaved working in Meiyerditch. After all, they're more physically capable than humans, and the vampyres would no longer have any use for them collecting victims for the tithes.

Gar'rth is not Zamorakian, but he's extremely sympathetic and empathetic toward the other members of his race. He becomes extremely angry with Kara-Meir after she kills a werewolf who attacks her. He also has a pretty strong hatred of the vampyres.
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05-Jul-2014 20:40:04

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If he thought that he stood a chance of freeing his race from oppression, yes I think he would go back to Canifis. Especially if he thought that he could at least reduce the tension between some of the humans and werewolves.

In the year 164, he only went back to avoid a death sentence, as Roald was blackmailing him with his life. However, since then, he has played his part in killing a powerful vyre lord and stopping an invasion. I believe that he would hold more hope for his race since then. He's also now seen the conditions in the ghettos, which he despises.

If Jagex has any intention of bringing more novel-exclusive characters into the game, I see no better way than this. Although they could still explore what happened to Jerrod after Legacy of Blood.
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05-Jul-2014 21:20:05

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Yes, buy the books. They were honestly some of the most interesting novels that I've ever read, although that's partly because I'm a lorehound. I have to admit, I wasn't expecting them to be any good before I started reading Betrayal at Falador.
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05-Jul-2014 21:49:50

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Anyone else thinking possible werewolf involvement to some degree since Rowl*y included werewolves when mentioning he didn't want to spoil anything?

I'm hoping that the missing people from Burgh de Rott are the result of the werewolves having to turn to different areas to find victims for the tithes.
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Lord Drakan said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Anyone else thinking possible werewolf involvement to some degree since Rowl*y included werewolves when mentioning he didn't want to spoil anything?

I'm hoping that the missing people from Burgh de Rott are the result of the werewolves having to turn to different areas to find victims for the tithes.

I doubt werewolves would make it that far south. On the other hand, it's entirely possible.


Depends on how desperate they are. After people started going missing in Silvarea, others would naturally begin to avoid the area. Perhaps the werewolves began to venture south in search of new victims for the tithe.
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17-Aug-2015 16:24:45

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sir eos lee said:
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Lord Drakan said:
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apparently king noobald is going to join us in the battle. Everyone bet how quickly he dies!

He didn't die last time. But then last time he was using an Amulet of Strength.

What last time?


In Legacy of Blood, King Roald was fighting on the front lines against the Black Prince's forces and even going toe to toe with Gareth.
Yes, the king was "buffed" by wearing an Amulet of Strength.

We don't know if the amulet was super reinforced (it was 10x stronger than normal and had magics to also aid accuracy and defence, so that any noob wearing it would seem pro) or if Roald was in better shape back then.

Fast forward to Year 169.
King Roald was brainwashed via magic and wasn't exactly geared for combat.

The question now: is King Roald like Sir Tiffy, one of the bigger hidden bad a$$ of the world?
is he more of an elite noob or a munchkin? he grinded stats the easy way, or leeched xp, and bought the best tier for his gear, but he lacks the practical aspect of knowing how to really fight, and thus would get owned against a true fighter?


Gar'rth*

Roald didn't exactly 'go toe to toe' with him, Gar'rth never fought back.
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31-Dec-2015 20:50:42

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Assuming the concept art is accurate, it will be interesting to see why the werewolves he's fighting are in their wolf forms. The last time he was smart enough to bring a wolfsbane dagger with him.
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31-Dec-2015 20:55:41

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Mod Rowley said:
Meku said:
knowing Jagex it will just be the standard "gather armies from all the human kingdoms and fight the evil invading force in epic battle of doom that will shake the whole Gielinor!!!!"

so boring


That sounds awesome. Do you mind if I use this idea? :P I'm joking, of course. It's a shame you believe this is something we'd do these days...or at least something that I would do. With TLoV I went out of my way to show that the series isn't just good vs evil, and to show more from the perspective of the vampyres, and that's something I intend to deliver on.

Also...I'm lurking on this thread again (for no reason, honest).


Werewolf lore plz. Just a book and some dialogue.
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05-Jan-2016 20:08:35

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Balustan said:
I don't get the borderline obsession with moral greyness. A. Rey 6th age trait if you ask me and that's what Myreque seems to be pushing towards. Zaros stuff being brought in fairly heavily to justify the direction without any of the requirements talking about it. Choices for Vanescula that we've heard about from the VIP Q&A and moral greyness. Not that moral greyness is good or bad it just seems to have become an obsession within many things.

Vampyres are so detrimental to humans you'd never side with them even if you disliked the Myreque, who are mostly dead, or if you disliked King Roald who is a thoroughly incompetent leader but is still human.


Grey characters are much more interesting, especially when you're dealing with individuals within a group. Making entire races black or white does nothing but create a boring character inhabiting multiple bodies. Make them each different shades of grey with varying motivations and values and they become unique, complex individuals that the audience can relate to.

IMO, story should always be the first priority. Giving the characters within complex motivations strengthens the plot because, as a result, the audience can better understands their perspective. We care more about them when they aren't part of some hive mind. However, as to the specific example of Vanescula, I do agree that she should be portrayed in a very dark shade of grey. After all, she did specifically target and kill a child for the sake of a reaction in Legacy of Blood...
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