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jimothyfurer
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This thread is focused on the concluding events of Kindred Spirits.

So in the quest, you find out that Sliske is working for Xau-Tak, and perhaps using the contest to make it easy for Xau-Tak to arrive on Gielinor.

How did you find that out? Well here's an easy 4-step guide to finding out Sliske's secrets!

Step 1: Unlock the Saradomin Statue that's keeping Verac bound.

Step 2: Be a nosey little adventurer and go through the hole in the wall from the statue falling.

Step 3: Be a nosier adventurer and take and read all of the books and inspect the globe that's keeping that one memory of that one conversation he had with that one guy (possibly Xau-Tak) and make like a bandit and use the Shadow focus to gtfo.

Step 4: Get beat up by Sliske like groceries for being such a nosey adventurer.

Easy, right? Well, maybe not...

The thing is, everything seems a bit too... placed, like when we were looking for clues pertaining to the mass murder of Brother Samwell's; all clues planted by Sliske.

For one, his secret rooms are right behind the Saradomin statue; Sliske should have at least had some way of knowing what would happen when the statue fell.

And then there's the matter of the journals; Two are much older, coming from the second age, the other two are newer. The two from the second age aren't NEARLY as incriminating as the newer ones (the old ones are just a science article and a police report). He could have easily written the newer two probably a month ago in anticipation of our coming, and the older two put out used to make it easier to piece together.

And the memory hidden in the globe... dunno what it is whether a piece of the stone or a memoriam crystal, it's still fairly out in the open.

Although this isn't evidence, I do find this fairly suspicious...


What do you guys think?
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27-May-2016 02:56:36

Hguoh
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1. Mod Wilson, the mod behind the information about Xau-tak, has already confirmed that Xau-tak is not Sliske's master.

2. Pay attention to what happened to the Zamorak Statue after Verac was released. Notice anything? It didn't fall over. This points to the complete toppling of the Saradomin statue having been unintended.

3. The crystal in the Orrery was hidden within it. It wasn't until we investigate it and trigger it to open up that the crystal within became accessible.

27-May-2016 03:14:53 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 03:15:44 by Hguoh

Sepulchre
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Also, Mod Raven said on stream that it wasn't Sliske's intention for that to happen. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

27-May-2016 06:12:38

sir eos lee

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Sepulchre said:
Also, Mod Raven said on stream that it wasn't Sliske's intention for that to happen.


I have to agree.

Your logic would make sense on a number of levels, and it would be something Sliske would possibly do.

But ...
1) It's too ... easy.
No fiendish traps. No tricky puzzles to solve. So sense of drama.
The books are just plain old boring out in the open.

2) Sliske's reaction.
Nothing staged. Nothing rehearsed. Not even a bit of improv.
That my friend, was pure undiluted rage that Sliske unloaded on the World Guardian.
You saw how sly Sliske was when he did everything on the setup with you in the cell?
Where was all of that when Sliske found out that your peeked at his plan (it didn't matter if you actually understood it... you simply seeing it was enough to throw him off)?

Whatever Sliske had in mind, he wouldn't have given the World Guardian (who was his target anyways) any chance to find out until he was ready to let you know.
He would have siphoned you, let you, Linza, Meg, and Major Rancor go, without warning saying you had "won" his game, or lost somehow and still kept the Staff, but you "won" enough to escape. We would have been left in the dark on Linza.
Sliske would have only leaked about what he did only when his game was well past any point of your interference (say 20 minutes after his little ritual he had charted out).
He'd make you jump thru hoops again piecing it all together, with a few conveniently selected specialists in magic etc to help you piece it together.
Then he'd be on Step 254 while you're still figuring out Step 45 of his plan and how to stop Step 57.

27-May-2016 06:26:21

Lego Miester

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I think we know what was supposed to happen. He'd take us through all the barrows wights, solve little puzzles with them, then at the end he'd take our soul after pretending to give the staff to us. Job, set, done. We broke it. We messed up somehow, and got a "please pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" moment by bumping into his private sanctum and literally reading his diary. It was like he wrote a play and we snuck backstage and saw the script.

If that was somehow all according to plan there's no way he'd be that....angry. When he's in control of the situation, he puts on his happy mask, and laughs off our efforts. The easter event was a perfect example, "oh no, I have been foiled, etc etc..." then basically shoos us away, our purpose of entertainment spent.
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27-May-2016 06:34:03 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 06:35:13 by Lego Miester

Sepulchre
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We stopped being entertaining when we found information we weren't supposed to. We started to be a real threat... Sliske underestimated us, and because he made 1 small error in his puzzle... he may have condemned himself. He lost sense of himself and went rage mode.. even after his outburst, he got irrational and left it to fate to kill us. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

27-May-2016 07:36:18

Solanumtinkr
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Sliske messed up and now we know the games the gods are playing are a dangerous farce and that a similar fate probably awaits them.

Now we're on opposite sides of the fence for sure, no matter his plan. We were supposed to die and be controlled by Sliske, by the sounds of things. Though I worry about exactly what "make them more compatible" means.

In any case we've thrown him off his game and we have friends. What does that add up to? Just asked Lord Drakan. We have the information we need and we have the friends and allies to help understand it.

The game just changed, and if anyone has any sense, they'll approach us to help push up the timetable of Sliske's Endgame, start it before he's ready. Don't give him time to think and plan his way out and force him into a critical mistake.

He's already made one, though I would be very wary of its validity, his control of the Brothers may no longer be a strong as he thinks. He has no respect for us or what we do. To him we're just a pawn. Yet a pawn can cross the board and become a Queen. And that there could be why he wants to control us.

At the end we felt weird. Was that the intended result? Was it the other parties intended result and not Sliske's? Or was that the critical mistake that will bring down his house of cards?

Fooling us again? . . . Not this time, I think
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27-May-2016 15:39:46 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 19:33:15 by Solanumtinkr

Aig123
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The only time I recall seeing Sliske this riled up was when he was excommunicated.
I think this 'man-in the-mask', theatrical persona is coming to a close.

I'm also starting to believe he has split personalities
One quest he kidnaps death and blasts Icthlarin to the ground.
The next he formally invites one of them to his games.
Quite the change of heart.

27-May-2016 15:59:28 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 15:59:46 by Aig123

Nolhiir
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I don't think Sliske is fooling us, per say.
I think what Sliske is trying to do is fool Xau-Tak into thinking they have an ally on Gielinor.
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27-May-2016 19:18:56

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